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JohnJohnson

Council Member
The Constitution says that?
Yes. The Constitution gives the POTUS broad and unlimited authority on the declassification process. Unelected bureaucrats...and others under the President...only have that authority under the President's direction and have no unilateral authority on the matter at all. Such as when Joe Biden packed them up, stole them, and left office in 2017. No authority at all. The President does.
 

condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
Yes. The Constitution gives the POTUS broad and unlimited authority on the declassification process. Unelected bureaucrats...and others under the President...only have that authority under the President's direction and have no unilateral authority on the matter at all. Such as when Joe Biden packed them up, stole them, and left office in 2017. No authority at all. The President does.
Quote the document please.
 

protectionist

Governor
pre-onset senility I suppose.

Doctors visits are not public information. Stop your damn lying.
Oh God, who left the cage door open ?

So, you go to your doctor's office, you drive up to the door. Park your car right outside the main entrance, You walk in the front door, and the small 2 story building is clearly marked with the doctor's name on the outside.
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10 people are sitting in their cars seeing you walk in. You walk in and go to the receptionist, who checks you in. Then you sit in the waiting room which has 13 people sitting there.

At this point 2 dozen people have seem you at your doctors visit. Oh, there's more. 3 maintenance men walk in, and see you also. And the janitor is there to clean up the lab room. That's 28 people ("public") who have seen you at your doctors visit.

Wait, there's one more item. One of the guys in the waiting room is doing a documentary about medical care in America, and is including doctors office waiting rooms as part of it. He's recording it on his cell phone, and now 5 MILLION people are seeing you on TV, and on the internet. Hope you didn't forget to shave that day.
 
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condorkristy

Mostly Liberal
Oh God, who left the cage door open ?

So, you go to your doctor's office, you drive up to the door. Park your car right outside the main entrance, You walk in the front door, and the small 2 story building is clearly marked with the doctor's name on the outside.
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10 people are sitting in their cars seeing you walk in. You walk in and go to the receptionist, who checks you in. Then you sit in the waiting room which has 13 people sitting there.

At this point 2 dozen people have seem you at your doctors visit. Oh, there's more. 3 maintenance men walk in, and see you also. And the janitor is there to clean up the lab room. That's 28 people ("public") who have seen you at your doctors visit.

Wait, there's one more item. One of the guys in the waiting room is doing a documentary about medical care in America, and is including doctors office waiting rooms as part of it. He's recording it on his cell phone, and now 5 MILLION people are seeing you on TV, and on the internet. Hope you didn't forget to shave that day.
Your scenario doesn't remotely match your pathetic claim. But your wasn't to be right. Your only goal in life is to get attention
 

sensible don

Governor
Supporting Member
Oh God, who left the cage door open ?

So, you go to your doctor's office, you drive up to the door. Park your car right outside the main entrance, You walk in the front door, and the small 2 story building is clearly marked with the doctor's name on the outside.
View attachment 73668
10 people are sitting in their cars seeing you walk in. You walk in and go to the receptionist, who checks you in. Then you sit in the waiting room which has 13 people sitting there.

At this point 2 dozen people have seem you at your doctors visit. Oh, there's more. 3 maintenance men walk in, and see you also. And the janitor is there to clean up the lab room. That's 28 people ("public") who have seen you at your doctors visit.

Wait, there's one more item. One of the guys in the waiting room is doing a documentary about medical care in America, and is including doctors office waiting rooms as part of it. He's recording it on his cell phone, and now 5 MILLION people are seeing you on TV, and on the internet. Hope you didn't forget to shave that day.
do you take medication per chance?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Oh God, who left the cage door open ?

So, you go to your doctor's office, you drive up to the door. Park your car right outside the main entrance, You walk in the front door, and the small 2 story building is clearly marked with the doctor's name on the outside.
View attachment 73668
10 people are sitting in their cars seeing you walk in. You walk in and go to the receptionist, who checks you in. Then you sit in the waiting room which has 13 people sitting there.

At this point 2 dozen people have seem you at your doctors visit. Oh, there's more. 3 maintenance men walk in, and see you also. And the janitor is there to clean up the lab room. That's 28 people ("public") who have seen you at your doctors visit.

Wait, there's one more item. One of the guys in the waiting room is doing a documentary about medical care in America, and is including doctors office waiting rooms as part of it. He's recording it on his cell phone, and now 5 MILLION people are seeing you on TV, and on the internet. Hope you didn't forget to shave that day.
Go to your doctor and start filming people in the waiting room. You'll get tossed out in no time.

Remember, you posted someone admitted to the hospital is public information. The context was the woman who worked for the government who was found in her office and ruled a death by natural causes. You say she was killed by the Clinton's and your evidence that it was murder was that she had no recorded visit to a hospital or doctor. Now you post the idiotic crap that someone might have observed her going to a clinic, hospital or doctor's office.

You've surrendered any claim to credibility at this point.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yes. The Constitution gives the POTUS broad and unlimited authority on the declassification process. Unelected bureaucrats...and others under the President...only have that authority under the President's direction and have no unilateral authority on the matter at all. Such as when Joe Biden packed them up, stole them, and left office in 2017. No authority at all. The President does.
Wow...what amendment to the constitution mentions declassification of documents by the president?

And no. The president is bound by the Presidential Records Act. Classified or not, those documents do not belong to him if they are related to his presidency.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Go to your doctor and start filming people in the waiting room. You'll get tossed out in no time.

Remember, you posted someone admitted to the hospital is public information. The context was the woman who worked for the government who was found in her office and ruled a death by natural causes. You say she was killed by the Clinton's and your evidence that it was murder was that she had no recorded visit to a hospital or doctor. Now you post the idiotic crap that someone might have observed her going to a clinic, hospital or doctor's office.

You've surrendered any claim to credibility at this point.
You MUST have ID for the appointment
 

JohnJohnson

Council Member
Wow...what amendment to the constitution mentions declassification of documents by the president?

And no. The president is bound by the Presidential Records Act. Classified or not, those documents do not belong to him if they are related to his presidency.
I never said there was an amendment on it so stop putting words in mouth. The President can classify and declassify at will at any time for any reason. Those in the executive branch that work with classified materials only do it under the President's direction.


The president’s classification and declassification powers are broad
Experts agreed that the president, as commander in chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When people lower in the chain of command handle classification and declassification duties — which is usually how it’s done — it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.

The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy vs. Egan — which addressed the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority.

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."

Indeed, the controlling executive order has been rewritten by multiple presidents. The current version of the order was issued by President Barack Obama in 2009.

The national-security experts at the blog Lawfare wrote in the wake of the Post’s revelation that the "infamous comment" by President Richard Nixon — that "when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal" — "is actually true about some things. Classified information is one of them. The nature of the system is that the president gets to disclose what he wants."


 
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