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Us finalizing plans to send Abrams tanks to Ukraine

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Do you ever stop to wonder why, if Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass, Zelenskyy has to beg the Brits for fighter jets? It is obvious to any honest observer that NATO is doing just enough to keep Ukraine from losing, but never enough for them to win.
It is because Ukrainian losses are from a very small air force to begin with. They started the war with about 100 fighter aircraft. The Russians started off with 300 deployed to fight in Ukraine.

Do you even stop to wonder why, if Russia is winning, why are they threatening current prisoners with additional time in jail if they refuse to fight?

Each side has to deal with limits on their own ability to produce weapons and ammunition. Russia is buying from Iran and North Korea.
Ukraine is relying on NATO.

If Russia is winning, why have all Russian forces withdrawn from Kyiv and the north and been forced to redeploy to Donbas?
 

PhilFish

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Do you ever stop to wonder why, if Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass, Zelenskyy has to beg the Brits for fighter jets? It is obvious to any honest observer that NATO is doing just enough to keep Ukraine from losing, but never enough for them to win.
Oh. Nuclear war is out of play now?
 

PhilFish

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It is because Ukrainian losses are from a very small air force to begin with. They started the war with about 100 fighter aircraft. The Russians started off with 300 deployed to fight in Ukraine.

Do you even stop to wonder why, if Russia is winning, why are they threatening current prisoners with additional time in jail if they refuse to fight?

Each side has to deal with limits on their own ability to produce weapons and ammunition. Russia is buying from Iran and North Korea.
Ukraine is relying on NATO.

If Russia is winning, why have all Russian forces withdrawn from Kyiv and the north and been forced to redeploy to Donbas?
Maybe refer the guy to my prior link to you..

Where Russians axe their commander to death.

Russia..not winning in so many ways
 

EatTheRich

President
Which would likely lead to a nuclear conflict and WWIII. Have a nice day...
If Putin is so desperate to keep a war going that he will use nuclear weapons rather than end his aggression, the same will be true after he conquers Ukraine and goes on to attack Poland.
 

EatTheRich

President
We've been over the reasons why - you just refuse to entertain any other scenario than the (neocon) official US government narrative (bad Russians bent on world domination). But you and I both know because Putin told us why:

Ukraine is another matter. Russia regards its inclusion in NATO as an existential threat. Putin stated on the eve of the invasion on February 23:

Positioning areas for interceptor missiles are being established in Romania and Poland as part of the US project to create a global missile defense system. It is common knowledge that the launchers deployed there can be used for Tomahawk cruise missiles—offensive strike systems.

In addition, the United States is developing its all-purpose Standard Missile-6, which can provide air and missile defense, as well as strike ground and surface targets. In other words, the allegedly defensive US missile defense system is developing and expanding its new offensive capabilities.

The information we have gives us good reason to believe that Ukraine’s accession to NATO and the subsequent deployment of NATO facilities has already been decided and is only a matter of time. We clearly understand that given this scenario, the level of military threats to Russia will increase dramatically, several times over. And I would like to emphasize at this point that the risk of a sudden strike at our country will multiply.



Clearly he thought having Ukraine in NATO would constitute an existential threat to Russia. According to Putin it was the rough equivalent of Soviet nukes in Cuba. If we took that off the table, Russia would in all likelihood withdraw. So that is not, in fact, what you "want" - you want regime change in Russia, like all neocons. And when it happens and the world becomes even less safe, you will find some other "evil dictator" to blame, rather than look in the mirror where the real culprit resides.
It is evident that permanent war conditions alone can keep his hated regime from falling, and that he would be therefore compelled to make war even if (everything else being equal) NATO and the U.S. didn’t exist.
 

EatTheRich

President
Side note, and very peculiar that it goes unloaded by liars and communist supporters of hegemonic attacks, namely Ukraine hadn't even applied to nato at the time of Russia's ruthless invasion. It was nowhere near to being accepted, even applied, or joined in any way whatsoever. It was only well after it was invaded that the ukrainians put forth their application

Which, if anybody would even bother to read, requires the approval of all current members, which also was nowhere close to being transacted

So existential threat is a complete and utter non-starter, and a bullshit line simpletons except, particularly those inclines to support hegemonic regimes and their conquest of their neighbors...
Communism has always been anti-imperialist. The communist position therefore is one of military support for Ukraine’s defense.
 

PhilFish

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Communism has always been anti-imperialist. The communist position therefore is one of military support for Ukraine’s defense.
well, sure..except for its imperialist conquest of ukraine... and, it's torture of ukrainians, and ..it's starving of ukrainians and it's pillaging of ukraine... and it's forced famine upon ukraine..


yup...they been swell
 

EatTheRich

President
well, sure..except for its imperialist conquest of ukraine... and, it's torture of ukrainians, and ..it's starving of ukrainians and it's pillaging of ukraine... and it's forced famine upon ukraine..


yup...they been swell
Those are symptoms of Stalin’s general reversal of Lenin’s communist program in favor of a program of centrist vacillation between social democracy and Jacobin-style top-down leftist reform.
 

EatTheRich

President
You better stay in Montana

71 Countries Where Homosexuality is Illegal (newsweek.com)

Your Hero Castro wouldn't allow gays to join communist party!
Castro like many people raised in capitalist society had imbibed deep prejudices to overcome, but from at least 1975 on was a leading advocate in Cuba for gay rights. But there was much popular prejudice against gays from more repressionist elements such as Raul Castro and it was not until 1988 that acknowledged gays started being admitted to the Communist Party.
 

PhilFish

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Those are symptoms of Stalin’s general reversal of Lenin’s communist program in favor of a program of centrist vacillation between social democracy and Jacobin-style top-down leftist reform.
Nope. Communist slaughter and tyranny
 
Yes. Russia grossly overestimated it's military state.. and grossly underestimated Ukrainian resolve hence it's hegemonic aims are forestalled
Russia's not blowing up pipelines on the opposite side of the planet form Moscow:

https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/seymour-hersh-claims-us-navy-behind-nord-stream-2-pipeline-explosion/

"WASHINGTON — Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has alleged US Navy divers laid bombs that destroyed the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea last September, drawing a denial from the Pentagon Wednesday."
 

PhilFish

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Russia's not blowing up pipelines on the opposite side of the planet form Moscow:

https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/seymour-hersh-claims-us-navy-behind-nord-stream-2-pipeline-explosion/

"WASHINGTON — Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has alleged US Navy divers laid bombs that destroyed the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea last September, drawing a denial from the Pentagon Wednesday."
Wowee... Well .if 85 up Seymour says so..

I allege you did it.

See how easy that was...

I allege Russia did it..

Kadyrov..

Homer Simpson..
 

PhilFish

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How did that workout last time?
How did what work out?

In case you didn't know it's the year 2023 and the current topic of conversation is a war in Ukraine by a Russian aggressor, not Hitler and his Nazi army battling in your Stalingrad against the military fronted by Romanians...

PS, currently the Russian army is fronted by drunks, prisoners, derelicts and other scum of the earth under the direction of the Wagner group. Perhaps you've seen the video that I've posted where these dedicated soldiers drag their wounded Commander out and axe him to death behind the building as a thank you for Russian treatment of its own soldiers
 
And naturally, when those exercises ended and didn't result in any sort of incursion whatsoever, Putin had every right to stage his own military exercise, and then storm into a sovereign Nation attempting to take over its capital, while concurrently slaughtering its peoples raping its women and children, and then garnering the support of ass wipes the world over who pretend that he was somehow justified. Hooray for this finding. I'm sure you nailed it
Which act of international terrorism occurred when BALTOPS 22 ended?

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/09/ftaz-f09.html

"Hersh alleges that:

"'Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.'"
 
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