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Us finalizing plans to send Abrams tanks to Ukraine

PhilFish

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Staff member
Politicians seem to want to fight a war halfway, half-measures.

2014 would have been a good time to act boldly and decisively. Instead, here we are.
I've been saying. Putin plays this game better than us. It's just that his military has degraded to shit. Just like most of Russia. If his military were at least par it would be the USSR reformed by now.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I've been saying. Putin plays this game better than us. It's just that his military has degraded to shit. Just like most of Russia. If his military were at least par it would be the USSR reformed by now.
He has complete control over media. The news reports bullshit and most are afraid to point it out. Opposition is jailed or murdered. He calls his citizens to fight in Ukraine to save Mother Russia from destruction and is so believable that 300,000 of his citizens head for the border.

Sorry, I don't see that he has an advantage on a level playing field. I pray that his own inner circle tire of him and soon. Justice would be best served by a fatal encounter with a true Russian Patriot.
 

PhilFish

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He has complete control over media. The news reports bullshit and most are afraid to point it out. Opposition is jailed or murdered. He calls his citizens to fight in Ukraine to save Mother Russia from destruction and is so believable that 300,000 of his citizens head for the border.

Sorry, I don't see that he has an advantage on a level playing field. I pray that his own inner circle tire of him and soon. Justice would be best served by a fatal encounter with a true Russian Patriot.
Putin scared the piss out of the west and continues to busy himself killing, raping, destroying...at a severe cost..but essentially unabated.

If his military were in order...Ukraine would be dust.
 
Pretty much a no-brainer that there will be more dead ukrainians. If you can describe how they might achieve less deaths during an active invasion, I'm all ears?

Meanwhile, ukrainians will continue to blow Russians away

How about you stop killing Ukrainians for General Dynamic$ profit$?
That would require negotiations for ending the war BEFORE Russia kills enough Ukrainians to dictate terms to the losers.
So far Russia has killed 120,000 Ukrainians with another 35,000 listed as missing in action.
300,000 to 400,000 Ukrainian proxies have been wounded since last February
Russian losses are estimated at 15,000 to 16,000 dead.
Then there's the truly MAGA question to ask:
How much will the Abrams fetch on the black market?
https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ill-afford-corruption-plagued-151538769.html
 
Even if the US were to offer to train a few hundred Ukrainian soldiers on maintenence and operations, it would mean that our tanks could be in country in a couple of days if needed. Why wait? If Belarus were to allow an invasion from the north or even commit their own troops....the sudden need could be met quickly. We have more than 1,000 of those tanks in storage.
How many of those tanks are in the boneyard?
 

PhilFish

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Staff member

How about you stop killing Ukrainians for General Dynamic$ profit$?
That would require negotiations for ending the war BEFORE Russia kills enough Ukrainians to dictate terms to the losers.
So far Russia has killed 120,000 Ukrainians with another 35,000 listed as missing in action.
300,000 to 400,000 Ukrainian proxies have been wounded since last February
Russian losses are estimated at 15,000 to 16,000 dead.
Then there's the truly MAGA question to ask:
How much will the Abrams fetch on the black market?
https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-ill-afford-corruption-plagued-151538769.html
Zzzzz.

How bout Russia is beaten back into it's shit country.
 
If Belarus even approaches the Ukrainian border they should be met there with whatever Ukraine, NATO, The US and Britain have including Air Power, Tanks, Artillary, Drones and whatever else can be mustered by the free world. These animals need to be taught a lesson. Word must go out that any foreign invaders entering Ukraine will be sent home in a box. Time to quit messing around with these ass holes for good.
Are you including the US on your list of "foreign invaders"?

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup

"The Maidan coup (pron: My-dan coo) or Ukrainian crisis of 2014 was a violent U.S-backed anti-democratic color revolution which brought the neo-fascist Maidan regime to power in Ukraine.

"It began when the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 22, 2014 following months of agitation by the Obama State Department and John Brennan's CIA.

"It was an extension or continuation into Europe of the Obama administration's failed 'Arab Spring' regime change policy and widely seen as Western imperialism."
 
Zzzzz.

How bout Russia is beaten back into it's shit country.
That's MAGA rich.
Blaming corrupt Russians while supporting equally corrupt Ukrainians who are currently busy siphoning off BILLIONS of US dollars while millions of their fellow citizens are being displaced by Russian forces determined to end NATO's threat on their western border'
You should run for congress.

https://www.theigmp.org/2023/01/three-digit-daily-casualties-massive-ukrainian-losses-against-russia-in-bakhmut-sounds-alarm-in-germany.html#:~:text=In a closed-door meeting this week, the BND,Ukrainians are currently suffering huge losses near Bakhmut.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
Are you including the US on your list of "foreign invaders"?

https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup

"The Maidan coup (pron: My-dan coo) or Ukrainian crisis of 2014 was a violent U.S-backed anti-democratic color revolution which brought the neo-fascist Maidan regime to power in Ukraine.

"It began when the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 22, 2014 following months of agitation by the Obama State Department and John Brennan's CIA.

"It was an extension or continuation into Europe of the Obama administration's failed 'Arab Spring' regime change policy and widely seen as Western imperialism."
Your schtick is running low on gas.

Yanukovich was a thief and an embezzler asxwell as a puppet of Russia, when he refused closer ties with Europe the Ukrainian people jettisoned him. Period.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
That's MAGA rich.
Blaming corrupt Russians while supporting equally corrupt Ukrainians who are currently busy siphoning off BILLIONS of US dollars while millions of their fellow citizens are being displaced by Russian forces determined to end NATO's threat on their western border'
You should run for congress.

https://www.theigmp.org/2023/01/three-digit-daily-casualties-massive-ukrainian-losses-against-russia-in-bakhmut-sounds-alarm-in-germany.html#:~:text=In a closed-door meeting this week, the BND,Ukrainians are currently suffering huge losses near Bakhmut.
Nopem killing Russian pigs. NATO will soon expand well beyond Ukraine. Russia's fault for it's unwillingness to live in peace.

It fails to realize no on is interested in it's shit hole country.
 
Meanwhile..we're not corrupt..right?

Ukraine isnt without flaws ..just like here what with our corrupted um..er...politic, education, tax system, loan shirkers, drugs, embezzlers, tax dodgers, crime, gun violence, klan, Nazis, supremacists..etc etc etc..
Big whup.

Meanwhile, people who suffer the rape of their children should be aided..yes?
We are outragesously corrupt (in fact a poster on this board who lies and defends that corruption every day gave your post a thumbs up in a complete lack of self awareness) right in step with that corruption are bunch of lawmakers who are just blindly funding the war in the Ukraine.

Worried about the Children? You should be, they are being killed and raped so corrupt oligarchs can keep having a war and making money.

This war that should have never taken place to begin with should have been over months ago.

It's all bullshit and if it ends in mushroom clouds, its going to be on the virtue signaling useful idiots.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
We are outragesously corrupt (in fact a poster on this board who lies and defends that corruption every day gave your post a thumbs up in a complete lack of self awareness) right in step with that corruption are bunch of lawmakers who are just blindly funding the war in the Ukraine.

Worried about the Children? You should be, they are being killed and raped so corrupt oligarchs can keep having a war and making money.

This war that should have never taken place to begin with should have been over months ago.

It's all bullshit and if it ends in mushroom clouds, its going to be on the virtue signaling useful idiots.
Nah. Some of you have your schtick and are sticking to it. Oligarchs here there and in your soup.

Much of it is true (that there are oligarchs), so e corruption (likely) but the overwhelming fact is Ukraine moves unabatedly towards the west. Millions of ukrainians are displaced and share the same goal. All who remain in Ukraine and fight share the same goal.

Short of some shit sources..the idea that the useful idiots are any other than those clinging to the shit articles of crap websites is laughable.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Exactly. All in. Or get out. He's throwing corrupt shits out too.... Which goes against others claims of corruption.
IMO, it needs to be used the same here in America especially during a War, politicians should be in DC and not on vacation.
 
F$&k Russia.


Seems unimpressed with Putin's bluff at this point in the game
the kremlin has vowed to "nuke berlin" if Leopard tanks are sent from Germany. They've previously vowed to nuke "Las Vegas", which is evidently where most pentagon weapons are produced.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Meh. Mouth flapping from scum
News this morning claims up to 300 Leo 2 tanks committed to be shipped to Ukraine.
Will Putin now threaten all of the EU countries shipping them? Switzerland is about to authorize re-ship of Swiss weapons to Ukraine. That would open up a floodgate of Swiss made artillery shells. Not sure of what other systems are made by the Swiss.

Hopefully, training Ukrainian tankers will be quick and thorough.
 

PhilFish

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Staff member
News this morning claims up to 300 Leo 2 tanks committed to be shipped to Ukraine.
Will Putin now threaten all of the EU countries shipping them? Switzerland is about to authorize re-ship of Swiss weapons to Ukraine. That would open up a floodgate of Swiss made artillery shells. Not sure of what other systems are made by the Swiss.

Hopefully, training Ukrainian tankers will be quick and thorough.
So far Estonia, Germany, Poland, US are moving forward . I hope it causes a flood of equipment.
 
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