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USA Must Divide Into 2 Seperate Countries

"Great America" is an amusement park in Santa Clara, CA. You've chosen an appropriate name for your new dictatorship....go with God....

Muggers, Muzzies, and Mexies

Caliphornia is part of Ingrate America. But that's okay, because everything else is backwards there, too.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
One Woke Over the Line

Your country. The United Nations Urban Cesspools of America.
I rewrote the Pledge for your new amusement park/aristocracy.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the DIVIDED States of America and to the Republic for which it once stood, one nation under our version of God, QUITE DIVISIBLE, with Liberty and Justice for SOME.
 

protectionist

Governor
I rewrote the Pledge for your new amusement park/aristocracy.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the DIVIDED States of America and to the Republic for which it once stood, one nation under our version of God, QUITE DIVISIBLE, with Liberty and Justice for SOME.
The problem with that is, it is looking at both countries (UBSA & ARSA) as if they were still one country. After the division, what you wrote makes no sense. The correction would be 2 pledge of allegiances, each the same as the current one, just with the addition of the words red and blue.

In the UBSA, however the words "with Liberty and Justice for SOME" would be correct, if the UBSA continues to have Affirmative Action discrimination against whites. I would hope that in a URSA, racial Affirmative Action would be banned (as it is now in 9 states)
 

protectionist

Governor
Showing you know little of fascism and the republican party...

1. When did the republicans ever make government smaller?
2. Trump proposed regulating media....revoking licenses for those who criticized him.
3. Hitler made it easier to own guns for anyone in the party. You guys have been saying democrats will confiscate guns for years. Did they?
4. What religion says it is a sin to bake a cake for a gay wedding?
Dobbs was fired by right wing media...Fox is hardly doing the bidding of the democrats. Twitter is a private company...as is Facebook. Are you suggesting government control of those companies to force them to carry whatever people want to say? Why just them? Why not force One America News to let anyone who has an opinion to come on the air?

I am an entrepreneur. The republicans did nothing to help me start my business. Opposition to racist policies? Is that why so few minority voters belong to the republican party? You don't know what is contained within CRT teaching materials.
Unlike your unsubstantiated blabbers, I present proof of what I say >>
1. When Trump eliminated business regulations. In 2018, 176 government regulations were eliminated.

EO_13771_Final_Accounting_for_Fiscal_Year_2018.pdf (reginfo.gov)

2. The biased and corrupt media DOES need to be regulated, and that one item doesn't change what I said about Democrats' affinity for excessive regulation being a characteristic of fascism they possess.
3. Nice try. Everyone knows Democrats are the party of gun control, while Republicans are the party of gun freedom. I stated "Severe gun control" as an item of "kin to the Democratic Party". In addition to Biden's various gun control measures (ghost guns, red flag laws, stabilizing braces, etc), Biden said >> " “No amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” ...and he said he supported legislation introduced last month by 35 Senate Democrats to ban “assault weapons” including popular semi-automatic guns such as AR-15-style rifles ( a gun that simply fires 1 shot with each pull of the trigger- an ordinary rifle)

Biden announces new executive orders on gun control (nypost.com)

Hitler confiscated guns more than just guns. In the 1936 Nuremburg Laws, he forced the disarmament of Jews and political opponents, going so far as to prohibit ownership of sharp instruments, such as swords and daggers.
4. According to Jack Phillips, from Christianity, supplying a cake for a gay wedding, violated Phillips’ freedom of religion, or his 1st Amendment right against being compelled to convey a “celebratory” message he doesn’t believe in.
Although Fox does have some right wing shows, it has become increasingly less conservative, with even Bret Baier and Sean Hannity going softball with leftist guests.

Fox News Just Fired Another Conservative, as They Slide Further Left - Right Wing News Hour

Twitter may be a private company but their influence is very public and their censorship is very one sided (against conservatives)

That's enough. I'm not going to spend all day on you.
 

protectionist

Governor
From 3:26 to 3:44 a.m. in The Associated Press election reporting stream, the vote for Biden jumped by 149,520 (9.2% of Biden's total votes) and Trump's vote jumped by 31,803 votes (2% of his total votes). Milwaukee County accounted for nearly all of that jump.

I remember Nov 4th morning. trump won Wisconsin and Michigan, Then the networks stopped reporting on the election for quite a while. Suddenly they came back with a complete reversal of the winner, with so many votes suddenly for Biden, that critics said it was impossible.

At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR.

As far the numbers are concerned, before the magical votes appeared and all got dumped on Biden, Trump was ahead 51% to 47% in Wisconsin, 53% to 45% in Michigan, 56% to 43% in Pennsylvania and all of a sudden the sizable leads were gone, like instantly,

These involved 109,000 instantly, magically appearing Biden votes in Wisconsin, 308,000 in Michigan, and 678,000 in Pennsylvania. That ain't no 156,000 isolated cases of fraud. That is 1,095,000 votes from nowhere, packed on for Biden, obviously fraudulently. And that's without talking about the fraud counts in Georgia, Arizona, Virginia, and Nevada.

Getting back to just Wisconsin, affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted, according to a lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell.

Read Sidney Powell lawsuit

A USPS subcontractor claims he was told the postal service planned to improperly backdate tens of thousands of ballots after the Nov. 3 election.

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Elections officials twice found batches of missing ballots in voting machines.

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A disability service coordinator who works with adults in assisted living facilities and group homes in and around Milwaukee, says every one of her more than 20 clients told her that they were either pressured to vote for Biden or had a vote cast for Biden before they ever had a chance to see their ballot.

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There were illegally altered and illegally issued absentee ballots; and government officials gave illegal advice to voters. That’s according to a Trump campaign filing.

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middleview

President
Supporting Member
I remember Nov 4th morning. trump won Wisconsin and Michigan, Then the networks stopped reporting on the election for quite a while. Suddenly they came back with a complete reversal of the winner, with so many votes suddenly for Biden, that critics said it was impossible.

At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR.

As far the numbers are concerned, before the magical votes appeared and all got dumped on Biden, Trump was ahead 51% to 47% in Wisconsin, 53% to 45% in Michigan, 56% to 43% in Pennsylvania and all of a sudden the sizable leads were gone, like instantly,

These involved 109,000 instantly, magically appearing Biden votes in Wisconsin, 308,000 in Michigan, and 678,000 in Pennsylvania. That ain't no 156,000 isolated cases of fraud. That is 1,095,000 votes from nowhere, packed on for Biden, obviously fraudulently. And that's without talking about the fraud counts in Georgia, Arizona, Virginia, and Nevada.

Getting back to just Wisconsin, affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted, according to a lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell.

Read Sidney Powell lawsuit

A USPS subcontractor claims he was told the postal service planned to improperly backdate tens of thousands of ballots after the Nov. 3 election.

Read More

Elections officials twice found batches of missing ballots in voting machines.

Read More

A disability service coordinator who works with adults in assisted living facilities and group homes in and around Milwaukee, says every one of her more than 20 clients told her that they were either pressured to vote for Biden or had a vote cast for Biden before they ever had a chance to see their ballot.

Read More

There were illegally altered and illegally issued absentee ballots; and government officials gave illegal advice to voters. That’s according to a Trump campaign filing.

Read More
Pretty sad stuff....Did you really think a Trump campaign accusation without any verifiable source would be credible. It isn't. Neither is the EpochTimes.

So in that link the headlines says:

Wisconsin Elections Commission Agrees to Order Partial Recount After Trump Request

Ok....then there is this on November 30th.

Completed Wisconsin recount confirms Biden’s win over Trump




Your next to last link is about some "Disability Service Coordinator" who says her 20 clients told her they were pressured to vote for Biden....So her name is "Susan" and none of her "Clients" were identified. No mention of what Nursing home she is accusing.

Did Susan encourage her clients to issue a complaint? Nah....Did she identify what staff member had filled out ballots for her clients? Nope.
This is what is known as hearsay.

The next link is some bullshit about ballots crossing state lines, ballot backdating and digital manipulation....hahahaha.....

So the first "sworn" testimony was from Jesse Morgan...a firm believer in ghosts, who says he drove a truck loaded with 288,000 ballots from Bethpage, NY to Lancaster Pa. It seems Morgan has pretty much disappeared. He was in all the news in December...when a Trump appointee was in charge of the USPS. Was there an investigation? Morgan claimed nearly 300,000 ballots were in his truck. Do you honestly think he inspected those ballots? Would they have been transported in an open container or were they sealed in a closed carrier? Use your head. Add to that Lancaster county only had 91,000. Basically...the allegation of ballots illegally crossing state lines is crap...absentee ballots would necessarily cross state lines.

Then there is the guy who said he overheard a supervisor talking about backdating mail in ballot envelopes...First..that is hearsay. Second...he recanted.

Lastly...the allegation that Dominion systems were flipping vote counts. You tell me how the hand recounts match the machine counts. Have you signed up with Powell, Giuliani, Fox, InfoWars or Oan as a co-defendant in their billion dollar suit against them? If you believe that crap then you are one of the people Powell was talking about when she said no reasonable person took what she said about Dominion as fact.

Then there is Sydney Powell's Wisconsin lawsuit...dismissed in December 2020.

 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
I remember Nov 4th morning. trump won Wisconsin and Michigan, Then the networks stopped reporting on the election for quite a while. Suddenly they came back with a complete reversal of the winner, with so many votes suddenly for Biden, that critics said it was impossible.

At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR.

As far the numbers are concerned, before the magical votes appeared and all got dumped on Biden, Trump was ahead 51% to 47% in Wisconsin, 53% to 45% in Michigan, 56% to 43% in Pennsylvania and all of a sudden the sizable leads were gone, like instantly,

These involved 109,000 instantly, magically appearing Biden votes in Wisconsin, 308,000 in Michigan, and 678,000 in Pennsylvania. That ain't no 156,000 isolated cases of fraud. That is 1,095,000 votes from nowhere, packed on for Biden, obviously fraudulently. And that's without talking about the fraud counts in Georgia, Arizona, Virginia, and Nevada.

Getting back to just Wisconsin, affidavits and statistical analyses allege more than 318,000 illegal ballots were counted, 15,000 mail-in ballots were lost, 18,000 were “fraudulently recorded” in the name of voters who never asked for mail-in ballots, 7,000 ineligible voters who had moved out of state voted illegally, Biden over performed in places using Dominion voting machines, and elections officials directed workers to "cure" or fix ballots with no witness address, or with voter certification missing on absentee ballot certificates and envelopes even though the law states such ballots are not to be counted, according to a lawsuit filed by Sidney Powell.
This shit has been debunked so many times it is unreal you bring it up again.

1. The fact is that you keep thinking the election should have been called for Trump because he was ahead at one point...but long before all of the ballots had been counted. As I've explained to you ad nauseum...in person ballots are tallied first and the entries in the poll books from polling places are used to update the voter database. Then, when that is complete, they begin to tally absentee ballots....this is simply because they can't know if someone voted in person before the voter database is updated. As the envelope is first handled by an election worker they check the database to see if someone already voted. They also check the address on the envelope and the signature....as well as the serial number on the envelope against the serial number mailed to that address. If all is valid they then batch the ballots and send them to be tabulated when the container is full. If it is a military ballot it must be copied from the federal ballot to a local ballot and batched.

Note that the container is sealed and signed before being passed along to the next station. You think that the counts are in real time...they are not. All of Milwaukee's absentee ballots were reported at once, early in the morning...you think that was some kind of magic. It wasn't. Trump got something like 30,000 votes and Biden got over 120,000...


Your "affidavits" and "statistical analysis" are f*cking bullshit...Compare elections from one election to another...the anomoly was that Trump was elected by voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and PA...states not usually red states.....and only by a total of about 80,000 votes.

wanna talk statistics?

In 2012 Obama got 2.5 million votes in Michigan...Romney got 2.1 million
In 2016 Clinton got 2.26 million and Trump got 2.27 million...
In 2020 Biden got 2.8 million and Trump got 2.6 million.

Trump barely squeeked by in 2016...in a blue state.

Wisconsin
in 2012
Obama got 1.62 million, Romney got 1.4 million
2016:
Trump got 1.4 million, Clinton got 1.38 million
2020
Trump got 1.61 million, Biden got 1.63 million
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
I posted MANY sources proving me right. View attachment 66055
And I've posted a response proving your sources have already been debunked.

By the way...you focused on that giant surge of ballots for Biden...which was Milwaukee sending in their results.

In 2012 Obama got 227,384 in Milwaukee...Romney got 56,553
In 2016 Trump got 45,411 and Clinton got 188,657
In 2020 Biden got 194,661 and Trump got 48,414...


The "statistical analysis" was done by a partisan hack looking for an excuse to support Trump's claim of a stolen election.
 

protectionist

Governor
Pretty sad stuff....Did you really think a Trump campaign accusation without any verifiable source would be credible. It isn't. Neither is the EpochTimes.

So in that link the headlines says:

Wisconsin Elections Commission Agrees to Order Partial Recount After Trump Request

Ok....then there is this on November 30th.

Completed Wisconsin recount confirms Biden’s win over Trump




Your next to last link is about some "Disability Service Coordinator" who says her 20 clients told her they were pressured to vote for Biden....So her name is "Susan" and none of her "Clients" were identified. No mention of what Nursing home she is accusing.

Did Susan encourage her clients to issue a complaint? Nah....Did she identify what staff member had filled out ballots for her clients? Nope.
This is what is known as hearsay.

The next link is some bullshit about ballots crossing state lines, ballot backdating and digital manipulation....hahahaha.....

So the first "sworn" testimony was from Jesse Morgan...a firm believer in ghosts, who says he drove a truck loaded with 288,000 ballots from Bethpage, NY to Lancaster Pa. It seems Morgan has pretty much disappeared. He was in all the news in December...when a Trump appointee was in charge of the USPS. Was there an investigation? Morgan claimed nearly 300,000 ballots were in his truck. Do you honestly think he inspected those ballots? Would they have been transported in an open container or were they sealed in a closed carrier? Use your head. Add to that Lancaster county only had 91,000. Basically...the allegation of ballots illegally crossing state lines is crap...absentee ballots would necessarily cross state lines.

Then there is the guy who said he overheard a supervisor talking about backdating mail in ballot envelopes...First..that is hearsay. Second...he recanted.

Lastly...the allegation that Dominion systems were flipping vote counts. You tell me how the hand recounts match the machine counts. Have you signed up with Powell, Giuliani, Fox, InfoWars or Oan as a co-defendant in their billion dollar suit against them? If you believe that crap then you are one of the people Powell was talking about when she said no reasonable person took what she said about Dominion as fact.

Then there is Sydney Powell's Wisconsin lawsuit...dismissed in December 2020.

Epoch Times is credible. Oh a "recount" Well that sure solves everything, doesnt it ?Just like in Georgia, recounting the same fraudulent count, is an insult of intelligence.

The stuff you're blabbering is irrelevant and stupid. It doesn't matter if in an open container or were sealed in a closed carrier. What matters is a large number of ballots disappeared, and who says Jesse Morgan disappeared. You ? Guess what - his testimony hasn't disappeared.

There are words of somebody whose words are not credible, all right - Yours.
 

protectionist

Governor
This shit has been debunked so many times it is unreal you bring it up again.

1. The fact is that you keep thinking the election should have been called for Trump because he was ahead at one point...but long before all of the ballots had been counted. As I've explained to you ad nauseum...in person ballots are tallied first and the entries in the poll books from polling places are used to update the voter database. Then, when that is complete, they begin to tally absentee ballots....this is simply because they can't know if someone voted in person before the voter database is updated. As the envelope is first handled by an election worker they check the database to see if someone already voted. They also check the address on the envelope and the signature....as well as the serial number on the envelope against the serial number mailed to that address. If all is valid they then batch the ballots and send them to be tabulated when the container is full. If it is a military ballot it must be copied from the federal ballot to a local ballot and batched.

Note that the container is sealed and signed before being passed along to the next station. You think that the counts are in real time...they are not. All of Milwaukee's absentee ballots were reported at once, early in the morning...you think that was some kind of magic. It wasn't. Trump got something like 30,000 votes and Biden got over 120,000...


Your "affidavits" and "statistical analysis" are f*cking bullshit...Compare elections from one election to another...the anomoly was that Trump was elected by voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and PA...states not usually red states.....and only by a total of about 80,000 votes.

wanna talk statistics?

In 2012 Obama got 2.5 million votes in Michigan...Romney got 2.1 million
In 2016 Clinton got 2.26 million and Trump got 2.27 million...
In 2020 Biden got 2.8 million and Trump got 2.6 million.

Trump barely squeeked by in 2016...in a blue state.

Wisconsin
in 2012
Obama got 1.62 million, Romney got 1.4 million
2016:
Trump got 1.4 million, Clinton got 1.38 million
2020
Trump got 1.61 million, Biden got 1.63 million
HA HA HA - PoliFARCE. You have the nerve to come in here and use PolitiFARCE as a source ? And oh yes, another of the favorite liberal CATCHWORDS > "debunked"

When a liberal claims somethng has been debunked, you can bet one thing about it - it's TRUE. What liberals have debunked, time and time again, is their use of the word "debunked"

Trump has the election won in the battleground states. Liberals, with their hands on the election counts, took that win and turned it into a loss. The whole country saw it and knows it, including lying liberals infected with Denial Disease.

There were 238,420 ballots from two counties, Dane and Milwaukee, where election clerks filled in missing information on the certification envelope; where voters declared themselves “indefinitely confined”; and roughly 69,000 absentee ballots cast in person before Election Day. Biden won Wisconsin by about 20,000 votes.

There was a suspicious spike in voters registering as “indefinitely confined,” which allows them to be exempt from presenting a photo ID to vote. Year to year, the number of voters calling themselves "indefinitely confined” increased 238% from 72,000 to 243,900. UPDATE: Wisconsin's Supreme Court ruled in favor of Republicans in a lawsuit stating that coronavirus and stay-at-home orders were not legitimate reasons for voters to vote without ID as "indefinitely confined."

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Nearly 400 absentee ballots that were not initially counted were later found. Officials blame "human error.”

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A trickle of votes that had Trump in the lead all night suddenly shifted when 170,000 votes, 5% of the total state count, came in one giant dump 17 times larger than average. Before the dump, Trump was ahead by 108,000 votes. He fell behind by 9,000 votes an instant later.

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Now for some REAL sources (credible)

Dominion machines can be altered to manipulate tallies in just a few minutes, using malicious code, according to Princeton professor of computer science and election security expert Andrew Appel.

A ballot can be spoiled or altered by the Dominion machine because “the ballot marking printer is in the same paper path as the mechanism to deposit marked ballots into an attached ballot box,” a study by University of California–Berkeley said.

The voting machines are susceptible to hacking or remote tampering because they are connected to the internet, even though they’re not supposed to be, according to a lawsuit. “If one laptop was connected to the internet, the entire precinct was compromised.”

There is evidence of remote access and remote troubleshooting, “which presents a grave security implication,” according to Finnish computer programmer and election security expert Hari Hursti. His declaration also claims the activity logs of the voting machines can be overwritten by hackers to erase their steps.

Dominion machine operators can change settings to exclude certain ballots from being counted. The ballots can be put in a separate file and deleted simply, according to Ronald Watkins, a software and cyber-security expert who reviewed the Dominion software manual. He also said final vote count involved machine operators copying and pasting the “Results” folder onto a USB drive, a process he calls “error-prone and very vulnerable to malicious administrators.”

In Wisconsin, (jut ONE of numerous fraud states),


At 4 AM, ABC News was reporting Trump waaay ahead in the vote counts of the remaining states (GA, PA, MI, WI, and with a tighter lead in NC) - all heading straight to a 294 electoral vote WIN.

Then, the Democrat FRAUD MACHINE, seeing that they were not going to be able to win legitimately, went into their plan B, and started concocting Biden votes. They weren't very good at it though. In ONE HOUR, Wisconsin went from Trump comfortably ahead 51% to Biden's 47% (1,529K votes to 1,420K), to Wisconsin suddenly reporting a slight lead for Biden.

So we are supposed to swallow it that Biden came up with a whopping 109,000 votes in ONE HOUR. 1633774408278.png
 
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