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First, the courts are not confirming a link between vaccines and autism: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/mmr-and-autism-rises-from-the-d
One of the tactics of snake-oil salesmen is to fearmonger about mainstream medical practices so as to scare potential customers into their clutches. A common target of such fearmongering is vaccines. Vaccine are an easy target – they are generally required by the government to some degree, and involve sticking small children with needles and injecting them with a cocktail that parents often don’t understand in detail.
While vaccines are of clear benefit, no one argues that they are risk free. There are rare serious complications. For this reason the US established the NVIC – National Vaccine Injury Compensation program. This is funded by a small tax on each vaccine, and is designed to compensate families of children who have a possible reaction to vaccines, bypassing the slow and costly regular court system. The NVIC works well.
The goal of the NVIC is not to determine scientifically if there is a link between a particular vaccine and a particular side effect. That is determined by the scientific community. Rather, the NVIC’s charge is to determine if “compensation is appropriate” in specific cases. They also give the benefit of the doubt to the families.
In many cases families do not have to prove that a vaccine caused a specific injury, only that their child had a certain medical outcome within a specific time frame of being vaccinated. Further, certain outcomes are considered “table injuries,” meaning that all the family has to do is establish that the child has the condition and the onset was within a certain window after getting a vaccine, and then compensation is automatic.
What this means is that there is a steady stream of families being compensated by the NVIC as a matter of course, even if there isn’t a single actual vaccine injury. Children get vaccinated, and children get sick, and sometimes these two things happen in sequence by chance alone. There is likely also rare reactions to vaccines, and there is no way to separate these two groups, so the NVIC just compensates everyone.
The NVIC, however, provides a constant source of raw material for vaccine fearmongers. Social media and the internet also mean that these cases can be passed around over and over again, rising from the dead even after they have been repeatedly explained by more sober sources. Most people don’t let pesky facts get in the way of a good story......
Second, Luke Rudkowski and his little website, is a conspiracy theorist (AKA nutjob). http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Luke_Rudkowski
An example of his style of "journalism": http://wearechange.org/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/
Now, over a decade later the evidence of these events are beginning to surface, but the Department of Defense is still doing their best to keep it under the radar.
By John Vibes | December 19, 2014
According to a number of global mainstream media sources, the Pentagon is covering up a disturbing video that was never made public with the rest of the recent torture report.
According to various well respected journalists, including Seymour Hersh, the appalling video was recorded at Abu Ghraib, the notorious US torture dungeon in Iraq that made headlines roughly a decade ago, when the inhumane tactics being used at the prison were exposed.
Sadly, it seems that the evidence released years ago was only scratching the surface.
While the video has remained under wraps thus far, Hersh says it is only a matter of time before it comes out.
Giving a speech at the ACLU last week after the senate torture report was initially released, Hersh gave some insight into what was on the Pentagon’s secret tape.
In the most revealing portion of his speech he said that:
“Debating about it, ummm … Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at … The women were passing messages out saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.”......
One of the tactics of snake-oil salesmen is to fearmonger about mainstream medical practices so as to scare potential customers into their clutches. A common target of such fearmongering is vaccines. Vaccine are an easy target – they are generally required by the government to some degree, and involve sticking small children with needles and injecting them with a cocktail that parents often don’t understand in detail.
While vaccines are of clear benefit, no one argues that they are risk free. There are rare serious complications. For this reason the US established the NVIC – National Vaccine Injury Compensation program. This is funded by a small tax on each vaccine, and is designed to compensate families of children who have a possible reaction to vaccines, bypassing the slow and costly regular court system. The NVIC works well.
The goal of the NVIC is not to determine scientifically if there is a link between a particular vaccine and a particular side effect. That is determined by the scientific community. Rather, the NVIC’s charge is to determine if “compensation is appropriate” in specific cases. They also give the benefit of the doubt to the families.
In many cases families do not have to prove that a vaccine caused a specific injury, only that their child had a certain medical outcome within a specific time frame of being vaccinated. Further, certain outcomes are considered “table injuries,” meaning that all the family has to do is establish that the child has the condition and the onset was within a certain window after getting a vaccine, and then compensation is automatic.
What this means is that there is a steady stream of families being compensated by the NVIC as a matter of course, even if there isn’t a single actual vaccine injury. Children get vaccinated, and children get sick, and sometimes these two things happen in sequence by chance alone. There is likely also rare reactions to vaccines, and there is no way to separate these two groups, so the NVIC just compensates everyone.
The NVIC, however, provides a constant source of raw material for vaccine fearmongers. Social media and the internet also mean that these cases can be passed around over and over again, rising from the dead even after they have been repeatedly explained by more sober sources. Most people don’t let pesky facts get in the way of a good story......
Second, Luke Rudkowski and his little website, is a conspiracy theorist (AKA nutjob). http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Luke_Rudkowski
An example of his style of "journalism": http://wearechange.org/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/
Now, over a decade later the evidence of these events are beginning to surface, but the Department of Defense is still doing their best to keep it under the radar.
By John Vibes | December 19, 2014
According to a number of global mainstream media sources, the Pentagon is covering up a disturbing video that was never made public with the rest of the recent torture report.
According to various well respected journalists, including Seymour Hersh, the appalling video was recorded at Abu Ghraib, the notorious US torture dungeon in Iraq that made headlines roughly a decade ago, when the inhumane tactics being used at the prison were exposed.
Sadly, it seems that the evidence released years ago was only scratching the surface.
While the video has remained under wraps thus far, Hersh says it is only a matter of time before it comes out.
Giving a speech at the ACLU last week after the senate torture report was initially released, Hersh gave some insight into what was on the Pentagon’s secret tape.
In the most revealing portion of his speech he said that:
“Debating about it, ummm … Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at … The women were passing messages out saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.”......
FWIW, I always get my shots. For children, especially the very young (infants and toddlers) there is concern about vaccines interfering with the development of their natural immunity system and/or too many shots at once having a chance of causing health problems, but there is zero evidence of a link between vaccines and autism.
No doubt autism is on the rise and it's cause is disturbing. I've seen various theories on it including the overuse of sonograms on fetuses where the high frequency sound might be damaging delicate growing brains. We live in a society where trace amounts of pesticides and preservatives will show up in the bodies of all citizens. Another factor is increased awareness. Autism could have gone undiagnosed in many children decades ago but now is being identified and treatment applied. I do not believe the latter accounts for the entire increase but it is still a factor.
No doubt autism is on the rise and it's cause is disturbing. I've seen various theories on it including the overuse of sonograms on fetuses where the high frequency sound might be damaging delicate growing brains. We live in a society where trace amounts of pesticides and preservatives will show up in the bodies of all citizens. Another factor is increased awareness. Autism could have gone undiagnosed in many children decades ago but now is being identified and treatment applied. I do not believe the latter accounts for the entire increase but it is still a factor.
