VERY compelling testimony at the J6 hearing today

[God of War]

You are not watching it, but call it a kangaroo court....I am watching and note the testimony of people who worked for Trump and were his supporters until he tried to overturn the election using numerous illegal paths.

There is no judgement coming forth from the investigation...it is not a court of law.

What did Schiff have to do with the Mueller investigation? What are you calling a shit show that he was supposed to have put on?

The ratings prove me right and you wrong.

 

[God of War]

Translation: I can’t identify a thing they said that was false. Not a thing. I can rant though. Do I get any points for that?

;-)

The ratings are sinking you.

 

[God of War]

What has the J6 Committee said that was false?

This is NO different than the Russia Collusion conspiracy theory shit show Schiff put on.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

So nothing at all wrong with putting together plans that even went so far as a massive breach of the building...attacking cops and doing a few million in damages...but failing due to the courage of just a few who stood up to him means we should move on?

Nothing he "planned" (IOW thought) involved an "attack" on the Capitol.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

The “break in” in this analogy is the 1/6 coup attempt, right? And your defense amounts to, “Well, they didn’t get away with all the gold, did they?”

Now all you have to do is prove Trump planned the "coup attempt" to which you are referring.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Trying to bribe the guard to let you in is a crime….Trump is guilty as hell of scheming to steal the election.

Where was the "bribe?"

 

[Raoul_Luke]

You are now thinking all of Trump's efforts to overturn the election should be forgiven because he failed? Wow!

Find me one that was illegal and I'm right there with you. So far you have nada...

 

[middleview]

Nothing he "planned" (IOW thought) involved an "attack" on the Capitol.

That is something you cannot possibly know until the investigation is over.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

That is something you cannot possibly know until the investigation is over.

If they had the "smoking gun" the New York Times would have published it by now.

 

[middleview]

Find me one that was illegal and I'm right there with you. So far you have nada...

1. He instructed Pence to reject electors. That would have been a violation of the constitution.
2. His phone call to Raffensberger, telling him to find 11,000 votes or he might find himself in legal trouble was a threat and illegal interference in Georgia's election.

 

[middleview]

If they had the "smoking gun" the New York Times would have published it by now.

Really? Did the NY Times put out a story about Trump's instructions to seize election machines? Did they tell a story about the pressure Trump put upon the DOJ or the VP being pressured to reject electors?

The investigation proceeds, as it should, despite republican hopes to kill it off before we hear testimony from everyone involved...including Trump.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

1. He instructed Pence to reject electors. That would have been a violation of the constitution.
2. His phone call to Raffensberger, telling him to find 11,000 votes or he might find himself in legal trouble was a threat and illegal interference in Georgia's election.

Did Pence do it? That's like me telling you to rob a bank, you don't do it, and yet you want me prosecuted for attempted bank robbery.

Telling someone to "find" something or they "might" find themselves in "legal trouble" could be interpreted as a "threat" - but only if the person had the power to file charges (which Trump obviously did not).

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Really? Did the NY Times put out a story about Trump's instructions to seize election machines? Did they tell a story about the pressure Trump put upon the DOJ or the VP being pressured to reject electors?

The investigation proceeds, as it should, despite republican hopes to kill it off before we hear testimony from everyone involved...including Trump.

"Instructions" that are not followed are, well, unfulfilled requests.

 

[Jack4freedom]

Where was the "bribe?"

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensburger:

“Mr. President we investigated the incident in Fulton County and there was no voter fraud. “

Trump:

“Find me 11,880 votes or YOU could be prosecuted for crimes….”


AG Rosen:

Mr President, there is NO evidence of voter fraud.

Trump:

I know that. Just SAY there was voter fraud, me and my friends in congress will do the rest….

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensburger:

“Mr. President we investigated the incident in Fulton County and there was no voter fraud. “

Trump:

“Find me 11,880 votes or YOU could be prosecuted for crimes….”


AG Rosen:

Mr President, there is NO evidence of voter fraud.

Trump:

I know that. Just SAY there was voter fraud, me and my friends in congress will do the rest….

That is compelling evidence...of stupidity. Is being stupid a crime?

 

[Jack4freedom]

Now all you have to do is prove Trump planned the "coup attempt" to which you are referring.

No, he doesn’t have to prove anything. People are not convicted and tossed in jail by internet chat rooms. However In Georgia a grand jury has been empaneled to decide whether or not to indict Trump, Guiliani and others. Let’s see if they get indicted. The two poll workers have retained council to decide if they should sue Trump and Guiliani for slander thus endangering their lives. With the video evidence I have seen, it looks like they have a damn good case.

 

[Jack4freedom]

That is compelling evidence...of stupidity. Is being stupid a crime?

In some cases, yes.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

No, he doesn’t have to prove anything. People are not convicted and tossed in jail by internet chat rooms. However In Georgia a grand jury has been empaneled to decide whether or not to indict Trump, Guiliani and others. Let’s see if they get indicted. The two poll workers have retained council to decide if they should sue Trump and Guiliani for slander thus endangering their lives. With the video evidence I have seen, it looks like they have a damn good case.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

In some cases, yes.

Not when you are a lefty (see R. Hunter Biden for reference).

 

[Jack4freedom]

Not when you are a lefty (see R. Hunter Biden for reference).

If he is guilty of a crime, why didn’t Sessions or Barr indict him when Trump was begging him to? Out of kindness, I suppose…..