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Victims Of Communism

Zam-Zam

Senator
Communism has a horrible record with regard to civil and human rights:

More than 100 years after the Bolshevik Revolution in which a communist regime first grasped power, and 30 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, one-fifth of the world’s population still lives under communist regimes in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam. Freedom is losing ground in Crimea, Hong Kong, Venezuela, and the former countries of the Soviet Union. The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC) exists to study, record, and broadcast the facts—to bring the truth of the brutal failures of communism to a forgetful and uninformed public.

Geopolitical actors from Beijing and Pyongyang to Havana and Caracas desperately want to undermine the West’s ability to condemn their tyrannies and encourage their people’s desire for freedom. They present single-party dictatorship and high-tech totalitarianism as acceptable 21st-century alternatives to Western democracy. This tactic is working. From the United Nations at Turtle Bay to the European Union headquarters in Brussels, and even at times the White House and Congress, too many institutions have accepted foreign communist claims as valid. Our target audience for this program includes dissidents, ethnic and human rights organizations, policymakers, diplomats, and the media.


Complete text: Human Rights | Victims of Communism


Also:

About | Victims of Communism

Educating Students about the Victims of Communism | RealClearEducation


Hopefully one day we can eradicate this despicable form of government from the face of the earth. Communism is tyranny.
 

EatTheRich

President
Of course the reason they have single-party governments is to try to ram through anti-communism over popular opposition. Freedom has lost ground as capitalist restoration has advanced, in the former USSR and in China including Hong Kong. Venezuela is and has always been capitalist.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Of course the reason they have single-party governments is to try to ram through anti-communism over popular opposition. Freedom has lost ground as capitalist restoration has advanced, in the former USSR and in China including Hong Kong. Venezuela is and has always been capitalist.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe.

I'm pretty confident most aren't going to buy it, especially since you, as always, back it up with nothing other than just saying it.

Merry Christmas!
 

EatTheRich

President
What backs it up is of course the historical record. For example the call of communists for restoration of multiparty elections in the USSR so that communism could continue to advance, vs. Stalin and the counterrevolutionary bureaucratic clique he represented wanting to make the one-party regime originally adopted under conditions of civil war permanent so that he could stifle the voices of the workers and get on with strangling the revolution.
 
The communism of Christianity with what used to be disturbingly fascinating was SCOTUS "one nation under God with equal justice under law" Klues Klucks duh Klans interpretation of Islam Allah jihad enslavement of women in their "man is God" pedophilia mores which Christianity's compulsive obsession medical pseudoscience fabricated misnomer immaculate Jesus the Christ conception has determined one man's law is another man's crime for Christiananlity pedophilia where convents are a right for women to not have their offspring enslaved as was reacted to for 9/11.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
A site worth a visit:


COMMUNISM KILLED OVER 100 MILLION
We're telling their stories.

TEACHING TRUTH. SEEKING JUSTICE. KEEPING MEMORY.

The Berlin Wall fell in 1989, but communism didn’t. One hundred years after the Bolshevik Revolution, one-fifth of the world’s population still lives under single-party communist regimes in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam.



Victims of Communism | Keep the flame of liberty alive


The truth some people prefer you not know.
 

EatTheRich

President
A site worth a visit:


COMMUNISM KILLED OVER 100 MILLION
We're telling their stories.

TEACHING TRUTH. SEEKING JUSTICE. KEEPING MEMORY.

The Berlin Wall fell in 1989, but communism didn’t. One hundred years after the Bolshevik Revolution, one-fifth of the world’s population still lives under single-party communist regimes in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam.



Victims of Communism | Keep the flame of liberty alive


The truth some people prefer you not know.
Even if those grossly exaggerated numbers were accurate, that would be about the death toll for 18 years of capitalism due to famine alone.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Even if those grossly exaggerated numbers were accurate, that would be about the death toll for 18 years of capitalism due to famine alone.
Before capitalism existed, did poverty and starvation exist?

Of course it did.

Your answer is revealing, however - It demonstrates you acknowledge communisms horrible record, and can't justify it. So instead, you attempt to attribute every case of poverty in the world to capitalism.

Which, obviously, is wrong.

I can only conclude you have no defense for communism's abysmal record. Your attempt to distract from it has failed.
 

EatTheRich

President
Before capitalism existed, did poverty and starvation exist?

Of course it did.

Your answer is revealing, however - It demonstrates you acknowledge communisms horrible record, and can't justify it. So instead, you attempt to attribute every case of poverty in the world to capitalism.

Which, obviously, is wrong.

I can only conclude you have no defense for communism's abysmal record. Your attempt to distract from it has failed.
Before capitalism existed, were poverty and starvation less widespread? Indeed they were. And has socialism alleviated poverty and reduced starvation? Indeed it has.

What you call “communism’s horrible record” is the temporary and occasional lapse of socialist countries … due to the immaturity of the communist revolution … into conditions that are commonplace and unremarkable when they occur in the capitalist world.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Before capitalism existed, were poverty and starvation less widespread? Indeed they were. And has socialism alleviated poverty and reduced starvation? Indeed it has.

What you call “communism’s horrible record” is the temporary and occasional lapse of socialist countries … due to the immaturity of the communist revolution … into conditions that are commonplace and unremarkable when they occur in the capitalist world.

Everything was less widespread when there were less people.

Communism sucks. Deal with it.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Interesting … a smaller labor force with less advanced technology, and they were still able to keep a larger percentage of the population fed?
Not per centage.




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A History of Poverty Worldwide
How poverty reduction accelerated in recent decades



A History of Poverty Worldwide (shorthandstories.com)



Meanwhile, the subject you are avidly avoiding...communism's record of human rights abuses, oppression and brutality.

There is no good defense for communism - That's why you haven't presented one.

Or even attempted one.
 

EatTheRich

President
Not per centage.




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A History of Poverty Worldwide
How poverty reduction accelerated in recent decades



A History of Poverty Worldwide (shorthandstories.com)



Meanwhile, the subject you are avidly avoiding...communism's record of human rights abuses, oppression and brutality.

There is no good defense for communism - That's why you haven't presented one.

Or even attempted one.
Your chart is from firmly within the capitalist era and charts the effects of the labor movement pushing back against capitalism, while not showing the skyrocketing poverty capitalism introduced when it supplanted precapitalist modes of production. War is inherently brutal and the class war has always involved brutality on both sides. Feel free to point to any atrocities perpetrated by socialist governments, much less communists, which compare to capitalism’s Genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas, centuries of mass slavery, the Holocaust (which socialism put an end to), or 2 world wars involving chemical and biological mass terror.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Your chart is from firmly within the capitalist era and charts the effects of the labor movement pushing back against capitalism, while not showing the skyrocketing poverty capitalism introduced when it supplanted precapitalist modes of production. War is inherently brutal and the class war has always involved brutality on both sides. Feel free to point to any atrocities perpetrated by socialist governments, much less communists, which compare to capitalism’s Genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas, centuries of mass slavery, the Holocaust (which socialism put an end to), or 2 world wars involving chemical and biological mass terror.
Communism...is inferior.

That is why it is in decline. Hopefully, in time it will be eradicated from the face of the earth.

The Downfall of Communism

Communism gained a strong foothold in the world during the first half of the 20th century, with one-third of the world's population living under some form of communism by the 1970s. However, just a decade later, many of the major communist governments around the world toppled. What brought about this collapse?

The Causes of the Downfall of Communism (thoughtco.com)


Also:

Communism in Decline

Communism in Decline - Our Readers, Commentary Magazine


It never worked, not once.

It abused human beings, every time.

That's a bad legacy. It won't be missed.
 

EatTheRich

President
Communism...is inferior.

That is why it is in decline. Hopefully, in time it will be eradicated from the face of the earth.

The Downfall of Communism

Communism gained a strong foothold in the world during the first half of the 20th century, with one-third of the world's population living under some form of communism by the 1970s. However, just a decade later, many of the major communist governments around the world toppled. What brought about this collapse?

The Causes of the Downfall of Communism (thoughtco.com)


Also:

Communism in Decline

Communism in Decline - Our Readers, Commentary Magazine


It never worked, not once.

It abused human beings, every time.

That's a bad legacy. It won't be missed.
It is inferior in brutality, which is why through the killings of millions and the spending of trillions the capitalists have been able to roll back some of the gains of socialism (even as workers continue to enjoy some of the fruits of socialism’s victories such as racial desegregation in the U.S.). Note that the alleged “decline” of communism (actually an inevitable retreat in the “two steps forward, one step back” rhythm of socialism’s advance) has been accompanied by a breakdown of freedom and democracy in major powers such as the U.S.: increased imperialist aggression leading to more frequent war; and widespread economic devastation.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
It is inferior in brutality, which is why through the killings of millions and the spending of trillions the capitalists have been able to roll back some of the gains of socialism (even as workers continue to enjoy some of the fruits of socialism’s victories such as racial desegregation in the U.S.). Note that the alleged “decline” of communism (actually an inevitable retreat in the “two steps forward, one step back” rhythm of socialism’s advance) has been accompanied by a breakdown of freedom and democracy in major powers such as the U.S.: increased imperialist aggression leading to more frequent war; and widespread economic devastation.
You never post a reliable, credible reference in defense of communism. Could it be that there is none?

Communism is a failed system with no positives. The only place it can exist is where it is imposed on people by force. No one wants it.

It's going to die. It's happening now. And you get to watch it play out.

It's all good.
 

EatTheRich

President
You never post a reliable, credible reference in defense of communism. Could it be that there is none?

Communism is a failed system with no positives. The only place it can exist is where it is imposed on people by force. No one wants it.

It's going to die. It's happening now. And you get to watch it play out.

It's all good.
Primitive communism is the only mode of production that has existed without state force to impose it on people.
 

Lance Freeman

Council Member
International Communism, operating under the banners of 'Globalism' and the New World Order (NWO), is on a forced march to overtake and overthrow constitutional America, which has existed for 240 years. Our country is under brutal attack from within.

The Radical Left (aka Marxist Left) in this country has essentially been 'weaponized' by the 'master-minds' of the NWO to create chaos, to destabilize American society, and to distract the populace from what is happening to the nation's foundations. Under cover of distraction and chaos, the Globalists can implement their plan for America without too much opposition. This is referred to by Marxists as 'pressure from below'. At the same time, they apply pressure from the top in the form of draconian measures on the people by their puppets in positions of power; puppets like Joe Biden and his Luciferian minions. This is a well-worn tactic, applied by Communist planners all over the world in their takeover of democratic governments. It worked very well in East Europe after WW2.

The American people must come to understand that their government has lost its legitimacy; that it does not work for them, and has trampled on both the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It has also thumbed its nose at the Nuremberg Code, which was created after WW2 to guarantee the basic rights of every planetary citizen, and to prevent governments from abusing their citizens by forcing them to do things they do not want to do.

By forcing citizens to take the vaccine through so-called 'mandates', and deliberately creating division and fear among the citizenry, the U.S. government violates the Nuremberg Code. In the presence of such abuses, it has clearly lost its legitimacy, and it has now become incumbent upon the citizens of this country to take action to replace it. The whole world is under this Luciferian threat, and its Dark Age promise, and is anxiously waiting to see what America will do about it. So, what will you do, America?
 
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