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We are loosing too many posters due to our Grumpiness -

It's not the grumpiness...it's the trollishness. This forum tolerates too many ankle-chomping losers.

That's the extent of my commentary here. All the best, QT.
I always thought that Trolls were grumpy ;) Grumpy stays, ain't gonna change it.
 

Caroljo

Senator
Every one of us are "grumpy" at times and take it out on others. But most you can usually have a decent conversation with once in a while. Then there are a few here that no matter how civil you try to be to them, they're so filled with hate they can't even force themselves to be just a little bit nice and talk like adults should be able to. Anyone that has different beliefs than they do are morons.
 
Grumpiness?
Ohhh Queen. It's gone far beyond that.
There are trolls here.
They need to leave.
These ones you mean?

In olden times, Trolls lived just about everywhere in the Scandinavian Countries. They believed that they owned the lakes, fields, forests, and bridges where they lived. This always caused a great deal of misunderstanding,as the farmers and townsfolk also believed that they owned these places.Trolls were also apt to make their homes under tree roots and in caves in the mountains. They liked dark places as the sunlight hurt their eyes, and some people even said that Trolls venturing into sunlight would be turned into stone.

The personality of most Trolls is hindered not only by their meanness and stubbornness but also in that they are slow thinking. They are apt to be noisy and quarrelsome and at dinner they untidily throw the bones over their shoulders so that their floors are always a bit cluttered.

Not all Trolls are disagreeable and mean. Some live around people and manage to get along very well. The Tomtes are often confused with Trolls as they look very similar, but the Tomtes have kinder faces. Once, every farm in Scandinavia had a Tomte. They lived in the barns, as they loved farm animals. It was the custom to leave a pan of milk, or something good to eat in the barn for the Tomte and in exchange it would watch over the farm and keep foxes from stealing the kind farmer's hens. Their favorite treat was Rommegrot, which is a sort of like porridge and sort of like pudding. Tomtes lived many hundreds of years and might be with a kind family through many generations. Some of the families who came to the United States brought their family Tomte with them, and continued in the new land to put a saucer of milk in the barn for good luck.

The Nissen is a Troll who lived on the farm and brought good luck to kind farm people. At Christmas (Yuletime), the Scandinavian families called the Troll, Jule Nissen, and would leave a bowl of Rommegrot in the barn so that Nissen would give the farm animals good health for the coming year. (This Troll taught the lesson of kindness.) Trolls are familiar to Americans in the story of the "Three Billy Goats Gruff", who encounter a Bro-Trollet or Bridge Troll, who does not want the goats to cross his bridge. (This Troll signifies covetousness.)

Northern folklore has many more kinds of Trolls, one for every unfavorable trait in the behavior of mortals. Many people will recognize a bit of themselves in the habits of these Trolls. The Fossegrimen, or Waterfall Troll lived under the waterfalls and played a violin. It was the custom for people to throw a present over the falls for the Troll and he would return the favor by visiting the person in his sleep and give him the gift of musical talent.(Signifies ambition) Tomte-Gubben, the Dancing Troll, was a pest. Like most Trolls, he never washed and his hair was in wild, tangled disarray. He would wait in the woods and when a young girl would pass by he would leap out and dance her around in circles until she was quite dizzy. He liked to be the center of attention. (Signifies vanity) Risse-Gubben, the Forest Troll, was very disagreeable. He was the one who makes a person slip on a wet log, or makes a branch break under a child who is climbing a tree, he also caused woodsmen to be careless with axes, and people to be careless with fire. (Signifies carelessness) Nokken, the Lake and Well Troll, lived in lakes, ponds, and wells. He didn't like people to fish in his lake and would annoy them by taking their bait off the hook and by scaring the fish away. He liked to pull people under water and to entice children into deep water and onto thin ice in the winter. (Signifies treachery and disobedience) Brun-Nokken only lived in wells. He was said to be a sneaky Troll with very long arms. He liked children to come close to the edge of a well and lean over far so he could grab them. The Draugen, or Sea Troll liked to make seamen take chances. (Signifies recklessness) Huldra, the Lady Troll liked to entice young men. She had a magic cap to make her appear a pretty young girl except for her long tail which she tied up under her skirt so it would not show, however her heart was still that of a Troll. If a young man would fall in love with her and marry her in church her tail would fall off and not return. (Signifies falseness and two-faced-ness)Hauge-Bokken, the Hill Troll, lived under hills in caves and liked to go about at night scaring people by following behind them and peeking in windows. (Signifies fear) Troll-Kjerring, was a Troll woman who carried her head around under her arm and liked to be around people full of hatred, and visited them in nightmares. (Signifies bigotry and hatred)

Fjell-Trollet, the Mountain Trolls were some of the biggest Trolls. They lived in mountains and caused avalanches and earthquakes by stamping their feet.They also had many heads, each uglier than the next. Tobi-tre-fot, or Tobi Wooden Leg was the meanest Troll. He would sneak up behind people and kick them with his knobby wooden leg. When they turned around he had disappeared only to kick them again when they were not watching. Tobi traveled from barn to barn, staying only long enough to cause a lot of trouble. He would cause mischief by pulling the harnesses off the wall onto the floor and he would let the animals out of the barn, and kick over the milk pail when no one was looking. He never bothered kind or generous people though. (Signifies cruelty and maliciousness) Vesle-tomten caused trouble with the farm animals by whispering in horses ears telling them to be disobedient. He would tell the hens not to lay eggs so that they would end up in the stew pot and give all the animals very bad advice. (spite, bad counsel) The Tussel, the Troll of family ills, made people worry about nothing, started fights and arguments, and liked to see people gossip. If children were bickering it was a sure sign that a Tussel was around the house. (Signifies malice and gossip) The Tusselader were tiny trolls that hid in small dirty places. They would come at night with little hammers and chisels and make a cave in a persons tooth if he was too lazy to brush his teeth. They also liked to live in snarly hair and to make bread and milk spoil. (Signifies uncleanliness and illness) Lange-Nesen, or Long Nose had a very long nose and was forever putting it where it did not belong. He had big ears and liked to pry into people's affairs and hear gossip. He also wanted to poke around and be included in everything. This was a very familiar Troll to most people. (Signifies morbid curiosity, snoopiness)

Most Troll parents were happy with their ugly baby Trolls but occasionally they would take a fancy to a mortal baby. When this happened, they would exchange their own beady-eyed baby and take the other child for their own.Sometimes mortal parents were surprised to find the behavior of their child changed greatly for the worse, and it would be a good guess that their child had been exchanged secretly for a nasty, bratty Troll child. Sometimes the Troll parents would find the stolen child to be too good natured and happy,and they would grow tired of seeing a smiling, cheerful face. They would grow lonesome for their own mean, spiteful Troll child and would return to the family to retrieve theirChangling child again. Sometimes though, the stolen mortal child was just as awful as their own and lived very happily with the Troll family. When this happened, the real Troll child would grow up and marry a mortal and teach its family to be nasty, ugly, Troll-like people. No one liked these persons who looked like people but acted ugly like Trolls. (Signifies bad behavior)

To this day in Scandinavia, you see many statues and pictures of Trolls and Tomtes, so there still must be plenty of them living in the northern countries. Perhaps many early immigrants to the United States brought Trolls and Tomtes with them to the new land as Troll-like behavior and people are common in the United States. The stories of the Trolls are still told, and Trolls continue to be some of the best loved rascals in the world. I know these are true stories as they were told to me by the Larson brothers, Levi and Walfred, who were my grandfathers cousins and who actually saw Trolls when they were growing up in the woodlands of Northern Minnesota.

http://trollmother.com/index.php/trollhistory
 

Jen

Trump 2020
These ones you mean?

In olden times, Trolls lived just about everywhere in the Scandinavian Countries. They believed that they owned the lakes, fields, forests, and bridges where they lived. This always caused a great deal of misunderstanding,as the farmers and townsfolk also believed that they owned these places.Trolls were also apt to make their homes under tree roots and in caves in the mountains. They liked dark places as the sunlight hurt their eyes, and some people even said that Trolls venturing into sunlight would be turned into stone.

The personality of most Trolls is hindered not only by their meanness and stubbornness but also in that they are slow thinking. They are apt to be noisy and quarrelsome and at dinner they untidily throw the bones over their shoulders so that their floors are always a bit cluttered.

Not all Trolls are disagreeable and mean. Some live around people and manage to get along very well. The Tomtes are often confused with Trolls as they look very similar, but the Tomtes have kinder faces. Once, every farm in Scandinavia had a Tomte. They lived in the barns, as they loved farm animals. It was the custom to leave a pan of milk, or something good to eat in the barn for the Tomte and in exchange it would watch over the farm and keep foxes from stealing the kind farmer's hens. Their favorite treat was Rommegrot, which is a sort of like porridge and sort of like pudding. Tomtes lived many hundreds of years and might be with a kind family through many generations. Some of the families who came to the United States brought their family Tomte with them, and continued in the new land to put a saucer of milk in the barn for good luck.

The Nissen is a Troll who lived on the farm and brought good luck to kind farm people. At Christmas (Yuletime), the Scandinavian families called the Troll, Jule Nissen, and would leave a bowl of Rommegrot in the barn so that Nissen would give the farm animals good health for the coming year. (This Troll taught the lesson of kindness.) Trolls are familiar to Americans in the story of the "Three Billy Goats Gruff", who encounter a Bro-Trollet or Bridge Troll, who does not want the goats to cross his bridge. (This Troll signifies covetousness.)

Northern folklore has many more kinds of Trolls, one for every unfavorable trait in the behavior of mortals. Many people will recognize a bit of themselves in the habits of these Trolls. The Fossegrimen, or Waterfall Troll lived under the waterfalls and played a violin. It was the custom for people to throw a present over the falls for the Troll and he would return the favor by visiting the person in his sleep and give him the gift of musical talent.(Signifies ambition) Tomte-Gubben, the Dancing Troll, was a pest. Like most Trolls, he never washed and his hair was in wild, tangled disarray. He would wait in the woods and when a young girl would pass by he would leap out and dance her around in circles until she was quite dizzy. He liked to be the center of attention. (Signifies vanity) Risse-Gubben, the Forest Troll, was very disagreeable. He was the one who makes a person slip on a wet log, or makes a branch break under a child who is climbing a tree, he also caused woodsmen to be careless with axes, and people to be careless with fire. (Signifies carelessness) Nokken, the Lake and Well Troll, lived in lakes, ponds, and wells. He didn't like people to fish in his lake and would annoy them by taking their bait off the hook and by scaring the fish away. He liked to pull people under water and to entice children into deep water and onto thin ice in the winter. (Signifies treachery and disobedience) Brun-Nokken only lived in wells. He was said to be a sneaky Troll with very long arms. He liked children to come close to the edge of a well and lean over far so he could grab them. The Draugen, or Sea Troll liked to make seamen take chances. (Signifies recklessness) Huldra, the Lady Troll liked to entice young men. She had a magic cap to make her appear a pretty young girl except for her long tail which she tied up under her skirt so it would not show, however her heart was still that of a Troll. If a young man would fall in love with her and marry her in church her tail would fall off and not return. (Signifies falseness and two-faced-ness)Hauge-Bokken, the Hill Troll, lived under hills in caves and liked to go about at night scaring people by following behind them and peeking in windows. (Signifies fear) Troll-Kjerring, was a Troll woman who carried her head around under her arm and liked to be around people full of hatred, and visited them in nightmares. (Signifies bigotry and hatred)

Fjell-Trollet, the Mountain Trolls were some of the biggest Trolls. They lived in mountains and caused avalanches and earthquakes by stamping their feet.They also had many heads, each uglier than the next. Tobi-tre-fot, or Tobi Wooden Leg was the meanest Troll. He would sneak up behind people and kick them with his knobby wooden leg. When they turned around he had disappeared only to kick them again when they were not watching. Tobi traveled from barn to barn, staying only long enough to cause a lot of trouble. He would cause mischief by pulling the harnesses off the wall onto the floor and he would let the animals out of the barn, and kick over the milk pail when no one was looking. He never bothered kind or generous people though. (Signifies cruelty and maliciousness) Vesle-tomten caused trouble with the farm animals by whispering in horses ears telling them to be disobedient. He would tell the hens not to lay eggs so that they would end up in the stew pot and give all the animals very bad advice. (spite, bad counsel) The Tussel, the Troll of family ills, made people worry about nothing, started fights and arguments, and liked to see people gossip. If children were bickering it was a sure sign that a Tussel was around the house. (Signifies malice and gossip) The Tusselader were tiny trolls that hid in small dirty places. They would come at night with little hammers and chisels and make a cave in a persons tooth if he was too lazy to brush his teeth. They also liked to live in snarly hair and to make bread and milk spoil. (Signifies uncleanliness and illness) Lange-Nesen, or Long Nose had a very long nose and was forever putting it where it did not belong. He had big ears and liked to pry into people's affairs and hear gossip. He also wanted to poke around and be included in everything. This was a very familiar Troll to most people. (Signifies morbid curiosity, snoopiness)

Most Troll parents were happy with their ugly baby Trolls but occasionally they would take a fancy to a mortal baby. When this happened, they would exchange their own beady-eyed baby and take the other child for their own.Sometimes mortal parents were surprised to find the behavior of their child changed greatly for the worse, and it would be a good guess that their child had been exchanged secretly for a nasty, bratty Troll child. Sometimes the Troll parents would find the stolen child to be too good natured and happy,and they would grow tired of seeing a smiling, cheerful face. They would grow lonesome for their own mean, spiteful Troll child and would return to the family to retrieve theirChangling child again. Sometimes though, the stolen mortal child was just as awful as their own and lived very happily with the Troll family. When this happened, the real Troll child would grow up and marry a mortal and teach its family to be nasty, ugly, Troll-like people. No one liked these persons who looked like people but acted ugly like Trolls. (Signifies bad behavior)

To this day in Scandinavia, you see many statues and pictures of Trolls and Tomtes, so there still must be plenty of them living in the northern countries. Perhaps many early immigrants to the United States brought Trolls and Tomtes with them to the new land as Troll-like behavior and people are common in the United States. The stories of the Trolls are still told, and Trolls continue to be some of the best loved rascals in the world. I know these are true stories as they were told to me by the Larson brothers, Levi and Walfred, who were my grandfathers cousins and who actually saw Trolls when they were growing up in the woodlands of Northern Minnesota.

http://trollmother.com/index.php/trollhistory
Not those.
 

BobbyT

Governor
These ones you mean?

In olden times, Trolls lived just about everywhere in the Scandinavian Countries. They believed that they owned the lakes, fields, forests, and bridges where they lived. This always caused a great deal of misunderstanding,as the farmers and townsfolk also believed that they owned these places.Trolls were also apt to make their homes under tree roots and in caves in the mountains. They liked dark places as the sunlight hurt their eyes, and some people even said that Trolls venturing into sunlight would be turned into stone.

The personality of most Trolls is hindered not only by their meanness and stubbornness but also in that they are slow thinking. They are apt to be noisy and quarrelsome and at dinner they untidily throw the bones over their shoulders so that their floors are always a bit cluttered.

Not all Trolls are disagreeable and mean. Some live around people and manage to get along very well. The Tomtes are often confused with Trolls as they look very similar, but the Tomtes have kinder faces. Once, every farm in Scandinavia had a Tomte. They lived in the barns, as they loved farm animals. It was the custom to leave a pan of milk, or something good to eat in the barn for the Tomte and in exchange it would watch over the farm and keep foxes from stealing the kind farmer's hens. Their favorite treat was Rommegrot, which is a sort of like porridge and sort of like pudding. Tomtes lived many hundreds of years and might be with a kind family through many generations. Some of the families who came to the United States brought their family Tomte with them, and continued in the new land to put a saucer of milk in the barn for good luck.

The Nissen is a Troll who lived on the farm and brought good luck to kind farm people. At Christmas (Yuletime), the Scandinavian families called the Troll, Jule Nissen, and would leave a bowl of Rommegrot in the barn so that Nissen would give the farm animals good health for the coming year. (This Troll taught the lesson of kindness.) Trolls are familiar to Americans in the story of the "Three Billy Goats Gruff", who encounter a Bro-Trollet or Bridge Troll, who does not want the goats to cross his bridge. (This Troll signifies covetousness.)

Northern folklore has many more kinds of Trolls, one for every unfavorable trait in the behavior of mortals. Many people will recognize a bit of themselves in the habits of these Trolls. The Fossegrimen, or Waterfall Troll lived under the waterfalls and played a violin. It was the custom for people to throw a present over the falls for the Troll and he would return the favor by visiting the person in his sleep and give him the gift of musical talent.(Signifies ambition) Tomte-Gubben, the Dancing Troll, was a pest. Like most Trolls, he never washed and his hair was in wild, tangled disarray. He would wait in the woods and when a young girl would pass by he would leap out and dance her around in circles until she was quite dizzy. He liked to be the center of attention. (Signifies vanity) Risse-Gubben, the Forest Troll, was very disagreeable. He was the one who makes a person slip on a wet log, or makes a branch break under a child who is climbing a tree, he also caused woodsmen to be careless with axes, and people to be careless with fire. (Signifies carelessness) Nokken, the Lake and Well Troll, lived in lakes, ponds, and wells. He didn't like people to fish in his lake and would annoy them by taking their bait off the hook and by scaring the fish away. He liked to pull people under water and to entice children into deep water and onto thin ice in the winter. (Signifies treachery and disobedience) Brun-Nokken only lived in wells. He was said to be a sneaky Troll with very long arms. He liked children to come close to the edge of a well and lean over far so he could grab them. The Draugen, or Sea Troll liked to make seamen take chances. (Signifies recklessness) Huldra, the Lady Troll liked to entice young men. She had a magic cap to make her appear a pretty young girl except for her long tail which she tied up under her skirt so it would not show, however her heart was still that of a Troll. If a young man would fall in love with her and marry her in church her tail would fall off and not return. (Signifies falseness and two-faced-ness)Hauge-Bokken, the Hill Troll, lived under hills in caves and liked to go about at night scaring people by following behind them and peeking in windows. (Signifies fear) Troll-Kjerring, was a Troll woman who carried her head around under her arm and liked to be around people full of hatred, and visited them in nightmares. (Signifies bigotry and hatred)

Fjell-Trollet, the Mountain Trolls were some of the biggest Trolls. They lived in mountains and caused avalanches and earthquakes by stamping their feet.They also had many heads, each uglier than the next. Tobi-tre-fot, or Tobi Wooden Leg was the meanest Troll. He would sneak up behind people and kick them with his knobby wooden leg. When they turned around he had disappeared only to kick them again when they were not watching. Tobi traveled from barn to barn, staying only long enough to cause a lot of trouble. He would cause mischief by pulling the harnesses off the wall onto the floor and he would let the animals out of the barn, and kick over the milk pail when no one was looking. He never bothered kind or generous people though. (Signifies cruelty and maliciousness) Vesle-tomten caused trouble with the farm animals by whispering in horses ears telling them to be disobedient. He would tell the hens not to lay eggs so that they would end up in the stew pot and give all the animals very bad advice. (spite, bad counsel) The Tussel, the Troll of family ills, made people worry about nothing, started fights and arguments, and liked to see people gossip. If children were bickering it was a sure sign that a Tussel was around the house. (Signifies malice and gossip) The Tusselader were tiny trolls that hid in small dirty places. They would come at night with little hammers and chisels and make a cave in a persons tooth if he was too lazy to brush his teeth. They also liked to live in snarly hair and to make bread and milk spoil. (Signifies uncleanliness and illness) Lange-Nesen, or Long Nose had a very long nose and was forever putting it where it did not belong. He had big ears and liked to pry into people's affairs and hear gossip. He also wanted to poke around and be included in everything. This was a very familiar Troll to most people. (Signifies morbid curiosity, snoopiness)

Most Troll parents were happy with their ugly baby Trolls but occasionally they would take a fancy to a mortal baby. When this happened, they would exchange their own beady-eyed baby and take the other child for their own.Sometimes mortal parents were surprised to find the behavior of their child changed greatly for the worse, and it would be a good guess that their child had been exchanged secretly for a nasty, bratty Troll child. Sometimes the Troll parents would find the stolen child to be too good natured and happy,and they would grow tired of seeing a smiling, cheerful face. They would grow lonesome for their own mean, spiteful Troll child and would return to the family to retrieve theirChangling child again. Sometimes though, the stolen mortal child was just as awful as their own and lived very happily with the Troll family. When this happened, the real Troll child would grow up and marry a mortal and teach its family to be nasty, ugly, Troll-like people. No one liked these persons who looked like people but acted ugly like Trolls. (Signifies bad behavior)

To this day in Scandinavia, you see many statues and pictures of Trolls and Tomtes, so there still must be plenty of them living in the northern countries. Perhaps many early immigrants to the United States brought Trolls and Tomtes with them to the new land as Troll-like behavior and people are common in the United States. The stories of the Trolls are still told, and Trolls continue to be some of the best loved rascals in the world. I know these are true stories as they were told to me by the Larson brothers, Levi and Walfred, who were my grandfathers cousins and who actually saw Trolls when they were growing up in the woodlands of Northern Minnesota.

http://trollmother.com/index.php/trollhistory
Nice! My S-i-l is Swedish and his mother sends him Tomtes every Christmas now that he's living in the US. My daughter has become a fan and they have several Tomtes displayed around their home. I never heard of them until I met him. They are quite charming.
 
Name the ones you would like to see leave and I will name the ones I would like to see leave.
I do not and never have wanted anyone to leave but to come and go as they, including myself, please.

Well no, that isn't strictly true, there were a couple who had ulterior motives for being here - I was pleased to see them go.
 
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Barbella

Senator
These ones you mean?

In olden times, Trolls lived just about everywhere in the Scandinavian Countries. They believed that they owned the lakes, fields, forests, and bridges where they lived. This always caused a great deal of misunderstanding,as the farmers and townsfolk also believed that they owned these places.Trolls were also apt to make their homes under tree roots and in caves in the mountains. They liked dark places as the sunlight hurt their eyes, and some people even said that Trolls venturing into sunlight would be turned into stone.

The personality of most Trolls is hindered not only by their meanness and stubbornness but also in that they are slow thinking. They are apt to be noisy and quarrelsome and at dinner they untidily throw the bones over their shoulders so that their floors are always a bit cluttered.

Not all Trolls are disagreeable and mean. Some live around people and manage to get along very well. The Tomtes are often confused with Trolls as they look very similar, but the Tomtes have kinder faces. Once, every farm in Scandinavia had a Tomte. They lived in the barns, as they loved farm animals. It was the custom to leave a pan of milk, or something good to eat in the barn for the Tomte and in exchange it would watch over the farm and keep foxes from stealing the kind farmer's hens. Their favorite treat was Rommegrot, which is a sort of like porridge and sort of like pudding. Tomtes lived many hundreds of years and might be with a kind family through many generations. Some of the families who came to the United States brought their family Tomte with them, and continued in the new land to put a saucer of milk in the barn for good luck.

The Nissen is a Troll who lived on the farm and brought good luck to kind farm people. At Christmas (Yuletime), the Scandinavian families called the Troll, Jule Nissen, and would leave a bowl of Rommegrot in the barn so that Nissen would give the farm animals good health for the coming year. (This Troll taught the lesson of kindness.) Trolls are familiar to Americans in the story of the "Three Billy Goats Gruff", who encounter a Bro-Trollet or Bridge Troll, who does not want the goats to cross his bridge. (This Troll signifies covetousness.)

Northern folklore has many more kinds of Trolls, one for every unfavorable trait in the behavior of mortals. Many people will recognize a bit of themselves in the habits of these Trolls. The Fossegrimen, or Waterfall Troll lived under the waterfalls and played a violin. It was the custom for people to throw a present over the falls for the Troll and he would return the favor by visiting the person in his sleep and give him the gift of musical talent.(Signifies ambition) Tomte-Gubben, the Dancing Troll, was a pest. Like most Trolls, he never washed and his hair was in wild, tangled disarray. He would wait in the woods and when a young girl would pass by he would leap out and dance her around in circles until she was quite dizzy. He liked to be the center of attention. (Signifies vanity) Risse-Gubben, the Forest Troll, was very disagreeable. He was the one who makes a person slip on a wet log, or makes a branch break under a child who is climbing a tree, he also caused woodsmen to be careless with axes, and people to be careless with fire. (Signifies carelessness) Nokken, the Lake and Well Troll, lived in lakes, ponds, and wells. He didn't like people to fish in his lake and would annoy them by taking their bait off the hook and by scaring the fish away. He liked to pull people under water and to entice children into deep water and onto thin ice in the winter. (Signifies treachery and disobedience) Brun-Nokken only lived in wells. He was said to be a sneaky Troll with very long arms. He liked children to come close to the edge of a well and lean over far so he could grab them. The Draugen, or Sea Troll liked to make seamen take chances. (Signifies recklessness) Huldra, the Lady Troll liked to entice young men. She had a magic cap to make her appear a pretty young girl except for her long tail which she tied up under her skirt so it would not show, however her heart was still that of a Troll. If a young man would fall in love with her and marry her in church her tail would fall off and not return. (Signifies falseness and two-faced-ness)Hauge-Bokken, the Hill Troll, lived under hills in caves and liked to go about at night scaring people by following behind them and peeking in windows. (Signifies fear) Troll-Kjerring, was a Troll woman who carried her head around under her arm and liked to be around people full of hatred, and visited them in nightmares. (Signifies bigotry and hatred)

Fjell-Trollet, the Mountain Trolls were some of the biggest Trolls. They lived in mountains and caused avalanches and earthquakes by stamping their feet.They also had many heads, each uglier than the next. Tobi-tre-fot, or Tobi Wooden Leg was the meanest Troll. He would sneak up behind people and kick them with his knobby wooden leg. When they turned around he had disappeared only to kick them again when they were not watching. Tobi traveled from barn to barn, staying only long enough to cause a lot of trouble. He would cause mischief by pulling the harnesses off the wall onto the floor and he would let the animals out of the barn, and kick over the milk pail when no one was looking. He never bothered kind or generous people though. (Signifies cruelty and maliciousness) Vesle-tomten caused trouble with the farm animals by whispering in horses ears telling them to be disobedient. He would tell the hens not to lay eggs so that they would end up in the stew pot and give all the animals very bad advice. (spite, bad counsel) The Tussel, the Troll of family ills, made people worry about nothing, started fights and arguments, and liked to see people gossip. If children were bickering it was a sure sign that a Tussel was around the house. (Signifies malice and gossip) The Tusselader were tiny trolls that hid in small dirty places. They would come at night with little hammers and chisels and make a cave in a persons tooth if he was too lazy to brush his teeth. They also liked to live in snarly hair and to make bread and milk spoil. (Signifies uncleanliness and illness) Lange-Nesen, or Long Nose had a very long nose and was forever putting it where it did not belong. He had big ears and liked to pry into people's affairs and hear gossip. He also wanted to poke around and be included in everything. This was a very familiar Troll to most people. (Signifies morbid curiosity, snoopiness)

Most Troll parents were happy with their ugly baby Trolls but occasionally they would take a fancy to a mortal baby. When this happened, they would exchange their own beady-eyed baby and take the other child for their own.Sometimes mortal parents were surprised to find the behavior of their child changed greatly for the worse, and it would be a good guess that their child had been exchanged secretly for a nasty, bratty Troll child. Sometimes the Troll parents would find the stolen child to be too good natured and happy,and they would grow tired of seeing a smiling, cheerful face. They would grow lonesome for their own mean, spiteful Troll child and would return to the family to retrieve theirChangling child again. Sometimes though, the stolen mortal child was just as awful as their own and lived very happily with the Troll family. When this happened, the real Troll child would grow up and marry a mortal and teach its family to be nasty, ugly, Troll-like people. No one liked these persons who looked like people but acted ugly like Trolls. (Signifies bad behavior)

To this day in Scandinavia, you see many statues and pictures of Trolls and Tomtes, so there still must be plenty of them living in the northern countries. Perhaps many early immigrants to the United States brought Trolls and Tomtes with them to the new land as Troll-like behavior and people are common in the United States. The stories of the Trolls are still told, and Trolls continue to be some of the best loved rascals in the world. I know these are true stories as they were told to me by the Larson brothers, Levi and Walfred, who were my grandfathers cousins and who actually saw Trolls when they were growing up in the woodlands of Northern Minnesota.

http://trollmother.com/index.php/trollhistory
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
I do not and never have wanted anyone to leave but to come and go as they, including myself, please.

Well no, that isn't strictly true, there were a couple who had ulterior motives for being here - I was pleased to see them go.
I wouldn't force anyone out
 

Mr. Friscus

I think, therefore, I poop
I'm being active as a mod, I get that.

It can cause some initial heat. If what I'm doing is overall seen as bad for the board by the mods, I'll step down, no problem.

I've gotten heat from Conservatives and Liberals alike, but I think eventually they'll realize I'm somewhat consistant and responsive. However, I can think dandelions grow out of my bunghole, it's up to you guys and the mods.

I guess the question is, is losing some members worth a better standard of debate? I'm pushing for the latter. But, like I said, if SW, Phil, and the rest think numbers are more important, I might be the wrong guy for the job.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I'm being active as a mod, I get that.

It can cause some initial heat. If what I'm doing is overall seen as bad for the board by the mods, I'll step down, no problem.

I've gotten heat from Conservatives and Liberals alike, but I think eventually they'll realize I'm somewhat consistant and responsive. However, I can think dandelions grow out of my bunghole, it's up to you guys and the mods.

I guess the question is, is losing some members worth a better standard of debate? I'm pushing for the latter. But, like I said, if SW, Phil, and the rest think numbers are more important, I might be the wrong guy for the job.

I agree along those lines, though would prefer to see better posters return as well. :)
 

MaryAnne

Governor
I never had the least problem with MODS. I know you work as a Team.

Never once was I warned,or anything else. You should discuss the contents of the post, not attack the poster personally.

Twice I have been warned on the other board. I was guilty both times,admitted it to the MODS but I was telling the truth about a stalker,said so in a PM.

Some of these grudges have gone on for 15 years and are really childish. That is what has driven so many away. You personally attack another poster over and over,you get time off,then you are gone.
 

MaryAnne

Governor
I'm being active as a mod, I get that.

It can cause some initial heat. If what I'm doing is overall seen as bad for the board by the mods, I'll step down, no problem.

I've gotten heat from Conservatives and Liberals alike, but I think eventually they'll realize I'm somewhat consistant and responsive. However, I can think dandelions grow out of my bunghole, it's up to you guys and the mods.

I guess the question is, is losing some members worth a better standard of debate? I'm pushing for the latter. But, like I said, if SW, Phil, and the rest think numbers are more important, I might be the wrong guy for the job.
If both sides are attacking you, you must be doing something right.:p If you have a problem,time off,then you keep on,you are gone. The time off should make you change your ways.

I knew I was the wrong guy for the job. I do not have the patience,so carry on.
 

Caroljo

Senator
I never had the least problem with MODS. I know you work as a Team.

Never once was I warned,or anything else. You should discuss the contents of the post, not attack the poster personally.

Twice I have been warned on the other board. I was guilty both times,admitted it to the MODS but I was telling the truth about a stalker,said so in a PM.

Some of these grudges have gone on for 15 years and are really childish. That is what has driven so many away. You personally attack another poster over and over,you get time off,then you are gone.
I've been banned from a thread...at least once, maybe twice, but that's it, never banned from posting. What I don't get are the ones that have been banned quite a few times since I've been here and they always come back meaner than ever....but never permanently banned. I would think after so many bans it would be permanent eventually!
 

MaryAnne

Governor
I agree along those lines, though would prefer to see better posters return as well. :)
Speaking from my experience, Phil. The mass attacking of returning posters is the main problem.

Of course many still dwell on the past. I do not know how they remember all this.:)
 

MaryAnne

Governor
I've been banned from a thread...at least once, maybe twice, but that's it, never banned from posting. What I don't get are the ones that have been banned quite a few times since I've been here and they always come back meaner than ever....but never permanently banned. I would think after so many bans it would be permanent eventually!
I thought a ban was permanent. Time off for so many days was just the start.

It might be a good idea to repost the rules.
 
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