We've been listening to the "maskholes" for over a year now...

[PhilFish]

What did Fauci say about mask use in the beginning?

Something like..don't need to wear a mask.

Why?

 

[Raoul_Luke]

A scientific approach when the results of a single study contradict the results of several other studies: conduct a meta-analysis that synthesizes the results. Failing that: compare the methodologies of the studies and determine which are most consistent with best practices. Failing that: attempt to replicate one or more of the studies. Failing that: give more credence to the position supported by the majority of the studies. The alternative (ideological) approach: assume whatever study confirmed your preconceptions was the one with the right conclusion.

As I mentioned, there were several distinct scientific studies conducted that measured the presence of (viable) covid virus in the air. Two of the three found no evidence of viable virus present whatsoever IN ANY OF THEIR SAMPLES! The third found traces but used a PCR test with a (ridiculous) 45 cycle parameter. Using 45 cycles you could likely find viable covid in zit puss. So your gobbledegook notwithstanding, the fact is that none of the alternative methods that you are suggesting actually "contradict" the studies that actually, you know, measured for the presence of viable virus in the air. I'll say it again - none of those "studies" that you are suggesting are more relevant actually measured air samples for the (viable) presence of the virus...NONE! The ones that did concluded that airborne covid transmission is overstated at best, and potentially ridiculous.

 

[write on]

Blabbering about "the science" that says you can get covid from breathing the air at your local supermarket. In all that time, would you think that maybe an actual "scientist" would decide to, you know, actually do experiments to discover if there is any covid in the (shared) air we breathe? Interestingly enough, there have been a few. So why do you suppose we haven't heard of any of these experiments from the mainstream media that has been pushing covid fear porn 24/7 throughout?

If you guessed "because they couldn't find any evidence of viable virus in them" - go to the head of the class. Surprise - the "science" behind masking isn't as "settled" as you are told by the techno-elites who are now in full control of every aspect of our lives, thanks to the left-wing maskscist movement. Yes, they are either that evil or stupid - your call.

The "evidence" they always point to for "proof" of "airborne" transmission is anecdotal evidence, such as choir practice or church service, where it is entirely possible the infected people either ate (or drank) something that could have been prepared by an infected person, or touched each other in some way (such as clasping hands) which then led ingestion of the virus by a healthy person, who ended up infected.

The few actual scientific studies that have made the light of day (if you can call totally ignored by the press and buried in academic papers on obscure web sites "light of day") were done in health care settings (hospitals and nursing homes) and one also included readings from a prison. All but one were "unable to find viable virus" in any of their samples. The one that claims it did used a PCR test with a (ridiculous) 45 cycle standard that amphlifies the virus particles in a way that I might suggest is "grotesque" over kill.

What I find fascinating is that one of these studies said the highest concentration of airborne (non-viable) virus RNA they found was around the nurses' station, which may (or may not) be due to them breathing through masks saturated with covid virus particles. That's hard to say without a deeper dive, but suffice it to (safely) say that it's not because they are carrying the virus (at least not internally). It could also simply be the virus "off-gassing" from their clothes.

Which brings me to the experiments that are touted as "proving" the airborne transmissability of covid virus - which involve placing animals in cages and pumping air from one cage to the other via ducts. First of all, if there is some possibility of passing the virus from one person's exhale to another's inhale - putting them side by side and pumping air directly from the one's space to the other's for 12 hours straight, well, lets just say I'm not completely ruling out that, under certain circumstances, the virus can be inhaled in an infectuous state. But you aren't forced to breathe another's exhalings in a confined space for hours on end (except, of course, in your home where, lets face it, no one is wearing masks). Interestingly, even the ferret experiment admitted that they couldn't actually prove that the route of transmission was "airborne" virus, and that it might simply have been the case that the virus particles (fomites) traveled through the duct and landed on the uninfected ferret's fur, which was then ingested through "self grooming."

So, unless you are licking your clothes when you get home from the grocery store, the chances of you getting covid merely by passing by an infected person, even in a confined space, approaches zero. Remember that the next time one of these "maskholes" claims they "saved your life" by making you wear a mask. Always keep in mind that the highest concentration of (non-viable) airborne covid RNA the scientists found was near the nurses station, where they were all (presumably) wearing the damn masks!

Oh, and a coda - there was an announcement made back in February of a study that was going to be doing the same sort of air sampling in shopping malls, grocery stores and other (public) common areas. Not a damn word since about this study, and one at this point should wonder why - is it because it (like the medical facility studies) found exactly zero evidence of infectious material in any of their air samples? MMmmmmmmm, could be...

I wonder.

Why are you so stringent about the use of masks? Did it trip and make you scrape your knee and you are lashing out?

I'm thinking anyone that has that line of thought is beyond reasoning with.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

I wonder.

Why are you so stringent about the use of masks? Did it trip and make you scrape your knee?

I'm thinking anyone that has that has that line of thought is beyond reasoning with.

I don't like being bullshitted, especially by the likes of you people. The whole masking phenomenom was always a Marxist construct - we must wear them not to help ourselves but because we are responsible (to the collective) for keeping others from catching Covid-19. That would be bad enough if it were true. The fact that it isn't renders it something that those of us who are not Marxists must not only refute, but completely obliterate.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

That is the most concise and accurate description of our country's disaster that I have ever heard.

The only "disaster" in all this is the shambles you morons have made of our Constitutional rights!

 

[write on]

I don't like being bullshitted, especially by the likes of you people. The whole masking phenomenom was always a Marxist construct - we must wear them not to help ourselves but because we are responsible (to the collective) for keeping others from catching Covid-19. That would be bad enough if it were true. The fact that it isn't renders it something that those of us who are not Marxists must not only refute, but completely obliterate.

What is the end run?

You're the vulnerable type, with so much angst, that the wannabe dictator trump is counting on you, and his other cultists, to show their fealty.

We're f'd!

 

[ObamacareForever]

I don't like being bullshitted, especially by the likes of you people. The whole masking phenomenom was always a Marxist construct - we must wear them not to help ourselves but because we are responsible (to the collective) for keeping others from catching Covid-19. That would be bad enough if it were true. The fact that it isn't renders it something that those of us who are not Marxists must not only refute, but completely obliterate.

C'mon. masks have nothing to do with Marxism.
We get it you think that anyone cares about but themselves is a "Marxist". But you have the stretched and warped the definition of Marxism to include everything you personally dislike.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

C'mon. masks have nothing to do with Marxism.
We get it you think that anyone cares about but themselves is a "Marxist". But you have the stretched and warped the definition of Marxism to include everything you personally dislike.

They certainly have noting to do with stopping the spread of Covid-19:

In December 2019, all nations learnt about the emergence of a pandemic of coronavirus disease (COVID-19), induced by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which is a member of the β-coronavirus group. As SARS-CoV-2 has the potentiality of leading to life-threatening respiratory failure, its transmission routes need to be characterized. Yet, the possibility of airborne transmission is still debated. This study was performed to evaluate potential hospital indoor air viral quality in order to detect SARS-COV-2. For this purpose, an impinger method was used to monitor the SARS-COV-2 virus in the air. Thus, 33 samples were collected from 8 different hospital locations. The sampling time was between 50 and 60 min with a sampling flow rate of 28 L/min. Air samples were taken from 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds. Temperature, relative humidity, and CO2 concentration were 28, 37, and 438 ppm, respectively. The results indicated that air samples which were 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds were negative for the presence of the virus. According to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic.

Investigation of SARS-CoV-2 in hospital indoor air of COVID-19 patients’ ward with impinger method (nih.gov)

Lets face it, one of the biggest reasons your lefties jumped on the mask bandwagon was because it was a way to virtue signal support of a collectivist endeavor ("my mask keeps you safe, and your mask keeps me safe"). Now that we know the disease isn't really all that "airborne" it remains as the sole reason you still support the wearing of masks.

 

[ObamacareForever]

They certainly have noting to do with stopping the spread of Covid-19:

In December 2019, all nations learnt about the emergence of a pandemic of coronavirus disease (COVID-19), induced by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which is a member of the β-coronavirus group. As SARS-CoV-2 has the potentiality of leading to life-threatening respiratory failure, its transmission routes need to be characterized. Yet, the possibility of airborne transmission is still debated. This study was performed to evaluate potential hospital indoor air viral quality in order to detect SARS-COV-2. For this purpose, an impinger method was used to monitor the SARS-COV-2 virus in the air. Thus, 33 samples were collected from 8 different hospital locations. The sampling time was between 50 and 60 min with a sampling flow rate of 28 L/min. Air samples were taken from 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds. Temperature, relative humidity, and CO2 concentration were 28, 37, and 438 ppm, respectively. The results indicated that air samples which were 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds were negative for the presence of the virus. According to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic.

Investigation of SARS-CoV-2 in hospital indoor air of COVID-19 patients’ ward with impinger method (nih.gov)

Lets face it, one of the biggest reasons your lefties jumped on the mask bandwagon was because it was a way to virtue signal support of a collectivist endeavor ("my mask keeps you safe, and your mask keeps me safe"). Now that we know the disease isn't really all that "airborne" it remains as the sole reason you still support the wearing of masks.

At this point you spamming the same thing you obviously either haven't read or don't understand because it doesn't say what you want it to say.

 

[middleview]

They certainly have noting to do with stopping the spread of Covid-19:

In December 2019, all nations learnt about the emergence of a pandemic of coronavirus disease (COVID-19), induced by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which is a member of the β-coronavirus group. As SARS-CoV-2 has the potentiality of leading to life-threatening respiratory failure, its transmission routes need to be characterized. Yet, the possibility of airborne transmission is still debated. This study was performed to evaluate potential hospital indoor air viral quality in order to detect SARS-COV-2. For this purpose, an impinger method was used to monitor the SARS-COV-2 virus in the air. Thus, 33 samples were collected from 8 different hospital locations. The sampling time was between 50 and 60 min with a sampling flow rate of 28 L/min. Air samples were taken from 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds. Temperature, relative humidity, and CO2 concentration were 28, 37, and 438 ppm, respectively. The results indicated that air samples which were 2 to 5 m away from the patients’ beds were negative for the presence of the virus. According to the obtained results, it is suggested that airborne transmission may not have much effect on this pandemic.

Investigation of SARS-CoV-2 in hospital indoor air of COVID-19 patients’ ward with impinger method (nih.gov)

Lets face it, one of the biggest reasons your lefties jumped on the mask bandwagon was because it was a way to virtue signal support of a collectivist endeavor ("my mask keeps you safe, and your mask keeps me safe"). Now that we know the disease isn't really all that "airborne" it remains as the sole reason you still support the wearing of masks.

It is SUGGESTED and MAY NOT have much effect and you turned that into definitive findings that AIRBORNE TRANSMISSIONS WERE FOUND TO HAVE NO EFFECT. So the obvious conclusion is that you've lied.

Add to that the part of the link you provided, but didn't quote, says the patients were in rooms with negative air pressure and that may have had an impact on the findings. When you take those things into consideration it at least lends itself to the suggestion that social distancing and masks were a good idea.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

It is SUGGESTED and MAY NOT have much effect and you turned that into definitive findings that AIRBORNE TRANSMISSIONS WERE FOUND TO HAVE NO EFFECT. So the obvious conclusion is that you've lied.

Add to that the part of the link you provided, but didn't quote, says the patients were in rooms with negative air pressure and that may have had an impact on the findings. When you take those things into consideration it at least lends itself to the suggestion that social distancing and masks were a good idea.

What part of no viable virus found in any of the samples is so hard for you to understand. Remember, this was in covid wing of a hospital. Responsible scientists use words like "suggest" and "may" because, unlike lefties, they understand that no science is "settled." But finding no viable virus in any of their samples, while not absolute, is pretty definative. And, as I pointed out, that wasn't the only study that found no viable virus in any of their samples. There was one study that claimed to have found covid in air samples but they used the flakey pcr tests at a 45 cycle level to do it (and it wasn't a bunch anyway).

Yes, they said "based on their findings, airborne transmission may not have much effect." So WTF? To you that means "masks for everyone forever?" Sheesh! Go find the studies that show viable airborne covid virus exists! I did the research, and found what I suspected, there is no evidence to support it. Now it's your turn - go do the research and find the scientific experiments that support mask wearing. They don't exist! It's all fake science, primarily the "study" that purports to show a correlation between mask mandate implementation and reductions in cases. But they only looked out 100 days. Most of the mandates were put in last late spring through early summer, when cases were declining natually. Why do you suppose they cut that study, which they claimed was "From May 30 through December 31" but didn't measure the cases over that timer period (which, if you do the math, is about 210 days). at 100 days? If they would have measured the entire period, it would have to include the late fall spikes, and that, of course, would blow their thesis out of the water. And the ferrit studies, which I covered in the top post. Go find the studies and post the relevant findings, and I will blow them away one by one. All you can say about these studies is "negative air pressure" but regardless, you'd expect to see SOME for crying out loud - these were covid wards where everyone is shedding the virus, unlike say, Walmart where there may be one or two (or more likely none).

Do the work! I did, and I found actual scientists doing actual air measurements, and they are saying that based on their findings, it doesn't appear that airborne transmission is a thing. They aren't political hacks - they don't have any axes to grind - they just want (unlike you) to understand the truth about airborne covid.

 

[middleview]

What part of no viable virus found in any of the samples is so hard for you to understand. Remember, this was in covid wing of a hospital. Responsible scientists use words like "suggest" and "may" because, unlike lefties, they understand that no science is "settled." But finding no viable virus in any of their samples, while not absolute, is pretty definative. And, as I pointed out, that wasn't the only study that found no viable virus in any of their samples. There was one study that claimed to have found covid in air samples but they used the flakey pcr tests at a 45 cycle level to do it (and it wasn't a bunch anyway).

Yes, they said "based on their findings, airborne transmission may not have much effect." So WTF? To you that means "masks for everyone forever?" Sheesh! Go find the studies that show viable airborne covid virus exists! I did the research, and found what I suspected, there is no evidence to support it. Now it's your turn - go do the research and find the scientific experiments that support mask wearing. They don't exist! It's all fake science, primarily the "study" that purports to show a correlation between mask mandate implementation and reductions in cases. But they only looked out 100 days. Most of the mandates were put in last late spring through early summer, when cases were declining natually. Why do you suppose they cut that study, which they claimed was "From May 30 through December 31" but didn't measure the cases over that timer period (which, if you do the math, is about 210 days). at 100 days? If they would have measured the entire period, it would have to include the late fall spikes, and that, of course, would blow their thesis out of the water. And the ferrit studies, which I covered in the top post. Go find the studies and post the relevant findings, and I will blow them away one by one. All you can say about these studies is "negative air pressure" but regardless, you'd expect to see SOME for crying out loud - these were covid wards where everyone is shedding the virus, unlike say, Walmart where there may be one or two (or more likely none).

Do the work! I did, and I found actual scientists doing actual air measurements, and they are saying that based on their findings, it doesn't appear that airborne transmission is a thing. They aren't political hacks - they don't have any axes to grind - they just want (unlike you) to understand the truth about airborne covid.

No virus in a room 6 feet away from the patient who is in room with negative air pressure...so less than 6 feet in a room with regular ventilation means what?

What was the patient doing? Sleeping or was the patient sneezing and coughing? So you really haven't a clue, right? You've proven absolutely nothing at all...except that social distancing is well advised for a distance of 6ft....or 2 meters.

 

[TheTrueRepublican]

Trump extinguished Covid with disinfectant injections and malaria medication.

 

[PhilFish]

What part of no viable virus found in any of the samples is so hard for you to understand. Remember, this was in covid wing of a hospital. Responsible scientists use words like "suggest" and "may" because, unlike lefties, they understand that no science is "settled." But finding no viable virus in any of their samples, while not absolute, is pretty definative. And, as I pointed out, that wasn't the only study that found no viable virus in any of their samples. There was one study that claimed to have found covid in air samples but they used the flakey pcr tests at a 45 cycle level to do it (and it wasn't a bunch anyway).

Yes, they said "based on their findings, airborne transmission may not have much effect." So WTF? To you that means "masks for everyone forever?" Sheesh! Go find the studies that show viable airborne covid virus exists! I did the research, and found what I suspected, there is no evidence to support it. Now it's your turn - go do the research and find the scientific experiments that support mask wearing. They don't exist! It's all fake science, primarily the "study" that purports to show a correlation between mask mandate implementation and reductions in cases. But they only looked out 100 days. Most of the mandates were put in last late spring through early summer, when cases were declining natually. Why do you suppose they cut that study, which they claimed was "From May 30 through December 31" but didn't measure the cases over that timer period (which, if you do the math, is about 210 days). at 100 days? If they would have measured the entire period, it would have to include the late fall spikes, and that, of course, would blow their thesis out of the water. And the ferrit studies, which I covered in the top post. Go find the studies and post the relevant findings, and I will blow them away one by one. All you can say about these studies is "negative air pressure" but regardless, you'd expect to see SOME for crying out loud - these were covid wards where everyone is shedding the virus, unlike say, Walmart where there may be one or two (or more likely none).

Do the work! I did, and I found actual scientists doing actual air measurements, and they are saying that based on their findings, it doesn't appear that airborne transmission is a thing. They aren't political hacks - they don't have any axes to grind - they just want (unlike you) to understand the truth about airborne covid.

How long is 2 m again?

 

[Spamature]

The only "disaster" in all this is the shambles you morons have made of our Constitutional rights!

The right to kill people with your infections ?

Sorry, but that is not a right as far as I know.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

What part of no viable virus found in any of the samples is so hard for you to understand. Remember, this was in covid wing of a hospital. Responsible scientists use words like "suggest" and "may" because, unlike lefties, they understand that no science is "settled." But finding no viable virus in any of their samples, while not absolute, is pretty definative. And, as I pointed out, that wasn't the only study that found no viable virus in any of their samples. There was one study that claimed to have found covid in air samples but they used the flakey pcr tests at a 45 cycle level to do it (and it wasn't a bunch anyway).

Yes, they said "based on their findings, airborne transmission may not have much effect." So WTF? To you that means "masks for everyone forever?" Sheesh! Go find the studies that show viable airborne covid virus exists! I did the research, and found what I suspected, there is no evidence to support it. Now it's your turn - go do the research and find the scientific experiments that support mask wearing. They don't exist! It's all fake science, primarily the "study" that purports to show a correlation between mask mandate implementation and reductions in cases. But they only looked out 100 days. Most of the mandates were put in last late spring through early summer, when cases were declining natually. Why do you suppose they cut that study, which they claimed was "From May 30 through December 31" but didn't measure the cases over that timer period (which, if you do the math, is about 210 days). at 100 days? If they would have measured the entire period, it would have to include the late fall spikes, and that, of course, would blow their thesis out of the water. And the ferrit studies, which I covered in the top post. Go find the studies and post the relevant findings, and I will blow them away one by one. All you can say about these studies is "negative air pressure" but regardless, you'd expect to see SOME for crying out loud - these were covid wards where everyone is shedding the virus, unlike say, Walmart where there may be one or two (or more likely none).

Do the work! I did, and I found actual scientists doing actual air measurements, and they are saying that based on their findings, it doesn't appear that airborne transmission is a thing. They aren't political hacks - they don't have any axes to grind - they just want (unlike you) to understand the truth about airborne covid.

Any chance you can stop spamming your nonsense?

From an NIH article....

“At the beginning of the epidemic, much attention is paid to person-to-person transmission, disinfection of virus-contaminated surfaces, and social distancing. However, there is much debate about the routes of disease transmission, including airborne transmission, so it is important to elucidate the exact route of transmission of the COVID-19 disease. To this end, the first systematic review study was conducted to comprehensively search all databases to collect studies on airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in indoor air environments. In total, 14 relevant and eligible studies were included. Based on the findings, there is a great possibility of airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in indoor air environments. Therefore, some procedures are presented such as improving ventilation, especially in hospitals and crowded places, and observing the interpersonal distance of more than 2 m so that experts in indoor air quality consider them to improve the indoor air environments. Finally, in addition to the recommendations of the centers and official authorities such as hand washing and observing social distancing, the route of air transmission should also be considered to further protect health personnel, patients in hospitals, and the public in other Public Buildings.”

A systematic review of possible airborne transmission of the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) in the indoor air environment

At the end of December 2019, the rapid spread of the COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) disease and, subsequently, deaths around the world, lead to the declaration of the pandemic situation in the world. At the beginning of the epidemic, much attention is paid to ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[BobbyT]

Any chance you can stop spamming your nonsense?

From an NIH article....

“At the beginning of the epidemic, much attention is paid to person-to-person transmission, disinfection of virus-contaminated surfaces, and social distancing. However, there is much debate about the routes of disease transmission, including airborne transmission, so it is important to elucidate the exact route of transmission of the COVID-19 disease. To this end, the first systematic review study was conducted to comprehensively search all databases to collect studies on airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in indoor air environments. In total, 14 relevant and eligible studies were included. Based on the findings, there is a great possibility of airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in indoor air environments. Therefore, some procedures are presented such as improving ventilation, especially in hospitals and crowded places, and observing the interpersonal distance of more than 2 m so that experts in indoor air quality consider them to improve the indoor air environments. Finally, in addition to the recommendations of the centers and official authorities such as hand washing and observing social distancing, the route of air transmission should also be considered to further protect health personnel, patients in hospitals, and the public in other Public Buildings.”

A systematic review of possible airborne transmission of the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) in the indoor air environment

At the end of December 2019, the rapid spread of the COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) disease and, subsequently, deaths around the world, lead to the declaration of the pandemic situation in the world. At the beginning of the epidemic, much attention is paid to ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I honestly believe that Lukey thinks Covid came with an instruction manual, Fauci read the instruction manual, then lied to everyone about what he read. Rather than the reality, which is that scientists throughout the world were learning as much as they could as fast as they could through as many different trials and tests as they could and that things learned somewhere get transmitted to scientists in other places who do their own testing to confirm, and that the whole process is iterative and public advice is going to evolve as the understanding evolves.

Right wingers have such a black-and-white simplistic view of the world. They want mommy or daddy to tell them right now everything they need to know, and don't dare change any information as new data is presented, just get it right RIGHT NOW. No wonder that change is so terrifying for them and that they need a god to tell them what to do and how to be. What a horrible childlike way to live.

 

[Spamature]

I honestly believe that Lukey thinks Covid came with an instruction manual, Fauci read the instruction manual, then lied to everyone about what he read. Rather than the reality, which is that scientists throughout the world were learning as much as they could as fast as they could through as many different trials and tests as they could and that things learned somewhere get transmitted to scientists in other places who do their own testing to confirm, and that the whole process is iterative and public advice is going to evolve as the understanding evolves.

Right wingers have such a black-and-white simplistic view of the world. They want mommy or daddy to tell them right now everything they need to know, and don't dare change any information as new data is presented, just get it right RIGHT NOW. No wonder that change is so terrifying for them and that they need a god to tell them what to do and how to be. What a horrible childlike way to live.

Daddy told the children to attack Fauci.

The children are obeying

It's that simple.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I honestly believe that Lukey thinks Covid came with an instruction manual, Fauci read the instruction manual, then lied to everyone about what he read. Rather than the reality, which is that scientists throughout the world were learning as much as they could as fast as they could through as many different trials and tests as they could and that things learned somewhere get transmitted to scientists in other places who do their own testing to confirm, and that the whole process is iterative and public advice is going to evolve as the understanding evolves.

Right wingers have such a black-and-white simplistic view of the world. They want mommy or daddy to tell them right now everything they need to know, and don't dare change any information as new data is presented, just get it right RIGHT NOW. No wonder that change is so terrifying for them and that they need a god to tell them what to do and how to be. What a horrible childlike way to live.

And in their desperation to call Fauci a “liar,” they must resort to moronic things like claiming Covid is not an airborne virus. Relentless idiocy.

 

[EatTheRich]

What part of no viable virus found in any of the samples is so hard for you to understand. Remember, this was in covid wing of a hospital. Responsible scientists use words like "suggest" and "may" because, unlike lefties, they understand that no science is "settled." But finding no viable virus in any of their samples, while not absolute, is pretty definative. And, as I pointed out, that wasn't the only study that found no viable virus in any of their samples. There was one study that claimed to have found covid in air samples but they used the flakey pcr tests at a 45 cycle level to do it (and it wasn't a bunch anyway).

Yes, they said "based on their findings, airborne transmission may not have much effect." So WTF? To you that means "masks for everyone forever?" Sheesh! Go find the studies that show viable airborne covid virus exists! I did the research, and found what I suspected, there is no evidence to support it. Now it's your turn - go do the research and find the scientific experiments that support mask wearing. They don't exist! It's all fake science, primarily the "study" that purports to show a correlation between mask mandate implementation and reductions in cases. But they only looked out 100 days. Most of the mandates were put in last late spring through early summer, when cases were declining natually. Why do you suppose they cut that study, which they claimed was "From May 30 through December 31" but didn't measure the cases over that timer period (which, if you do the math, is about 210 days). at 100 days? If they would have measured the entire period, it would have to include the late fall spikes, and that, of course, would blow their thesis out of the water. And the ferrit studies, which I covered in the top post. Go find the studies and post the relevant findings, and I will blow them away one by one. All you can say about these studies is "negative air pressure" but regardless, you'd expect to see SOME for crying out loud - these were covid wards where everyone is shedding the virus, unlike say, Walmart where there may be one or two (or more likely none).

Do the work! I did, and I found actual scientists doing actual air measurements, and they are saying that based on their findings, it doesn't appear that airborne transmission is a thing. They aren't political hacks - they don't have any axes to grind - they just want (unlike you) to understand the truth about airborne covid.

It was summer in the counties that adopted mask mandates and saw the rate of Covid increase level off, and in the adjoining counties that had no mask mandates and uncontrolled Covid spikes alike.