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God of War

Lets go Brandon!
So as per your link the economy was officially shrinking for 11 years of the 41-year period when you said it was “just fine.”
The link speaks to the natural cyclical creation and destruction inherent in a capitalist system. The Great Depression was great because of an excess of humanity.
 

EatTheRich

President
No, too many immigrants not enough jobs equals great depression.
The Great Depression like any modern depression was an international phenomenon. Allowing workers to freely move to where the jobs are allows for the maximal number to be employed by reducing inefficiencies in matching supply of labor-power to demand. Anyway, the USSR was at just the same time setting World-record economic growth rates demonstrating the possibility of an alternative.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Why would the capitalists have changed their immigration policy if it hadn’t been bad for the economy?
They did in 1924 by cutting back on immigration and too late I might add.

Psst... that vaccine.. I'm cutting you some slack... I'm the one saying that large immigration numbers can be bad for the economy... you're saying it never is bad at all... soo.... I'm responding by guessing your intent.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
The Great Depression like any modern depression was an international phenomenon.
So according to you the whole world canceled immigration and that's why there was a world wide depression?

Allowing workers to freely move to where the jobs are allows for the maximal number to be employed by reducing inefficiencies in matching supply of labor-power to demand.
And yet in the depression there were more workers than jobs. How would bringing more immigrants have fixed that?

Anyway, the USSR was at just the same time setting World-record economic growth rates demonstrating the possibility of an alternative.
Sounds like the same fake CCP numbers syndrome we're treated to today because from 1921 to 1923 America was spoon feeding Russia.

 

EatTheRich

President
They did in 1924 by cutting back on immigration and too late I might add.

Psst... that vaccine.. I'm cutting you some slack... I'm the one saying that large immigration numbers can be bad for the economy... you're saying it never is bad at all... soo.... I'm responding by guessing your intent.
I’m saying the best thing for a capitalist economy is a free labor market, not one deformed by government interference with the ability of workers to bargain for the best job available anywhere.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I’m saying the best thing for a capitalist economy is a free labor market, not one deformed by government interference with the ability of workers to bargain for the best job available anywhere.
You can't afford a car or a home
Evidently that's your fault
 

EatTheRich

President
So according to you the whole world canceled immigration and that's why there was a world wide depression?


And yet in the depression there were more workers than jobs. How would bringing more immigrants have fixed that?



Sounds like the same fake CCP numbers syndrome we're treated to today because from 1921 to 1923 America was spoon feeding Russia.

1. No, capitalism inevitably goes through boom and bust cycles and a depression was a crisis waiting to happen. It was just precipitated and exacerbated by anti-market decisions made in the U.S.

2. Allowing the workers to freely go where the jobs were would have allowed for the most efficient pairing of the most qualified workers in the world with the most desirable jobs in the world. Instead efforts to alleviate unemployment were unnecessarily complicated by the edict that workers had to stay in especially backward places even if there weren’t jobs there.

3. The Soviet Union overcame the conditions of backwardness and civil war with the Stalin industrialization. Actually there was mass starvation during the period of rapid economic growth too but that was due to the bureaucratic dictatorship’s decision to deliberately starve the peasants in order to accumulate capital in the state’s hands and to gain political advantage for the left wing of the party by killing off the social base of the right … but this callous decision by the counterrevolutionaries emulating capitalist methods doesn’t change the fact that it was ultimately socialism that made that kind of growth possible, hat sustained if more modest growth would have been possible without the brutal exploitation of the peasants, or that the Soviet Union succeeded in growing its economy while every capitalist country’s was retracting.
 
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