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What do you think about Qualified Immunity?

Dino

Russian Asset
How does Qualified Immunity punish corrupt cops?

It encourages them.

Therein lies the problem.
Read what I gave you before you ask more stupid questions.
Qualified immunity doesn’t protect corrupt cops and it sure as hell doesn’t mean “cops know that they can do whatever they want without any recourse,”

Smarten up.
 

write on

Governor
Read what I gave you before you ask more stupid questions.
Qualified immunity doesn’t protect corrupt cops and it sure as hell doesn’t mean “cops know that they can do whatever they want without any recourse,”

Smarten up.
I've ran across a rarity.

Okay, I'll play along.

What's the blue wall?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
:rolleyes:

But they're cops, aren't they?
But they are not voting for you, huh?

Who suggested this topic? Your handlers?

Obviously you know nothing of the subject or the reasoning behind this legal principle. But if you did get your way, make sure you know what you are asking for.
 

write on

Governor
But they are not voting for you, huh?

Who suggested this topic? Your handlers?

Obviously you know nothing of the subject or the reasoning behind this legal principle. But if you did get your way, make sure you know what you are asking for.
What am I running for?

Do what? You're claiming that I don't know the topic ? wink wink
 

write on

Governor
Read what I gave you before you ask more stupid questions.
Qualified immunity doesn’t protect corrupt cops and it sure as hell doesn’t mean “cops know that they can do whatever they want without any recourse,”

Smarten up.
Again, I know what qualified immunity is.

Do yourself a favor and see the multiple disastrous moments that shows qualified immunity should be abolished.

The beating of Rodney King is a good place to start. And since then, the problem has only gotten worse with cops getting away with murder.

How many times have cops shot a fleeing suspect in the back and get off when the case finally goes to court?

And when someone tries to stop the corruption? Serpico wasn't the only one trying.

At least he lived. Others didn't.

Your casual dismissal of police corruption adds to the problem.

I can post many other incidents of their misdeeds if you want....



 

EatTheRich

President
Why would I bother? The left will lie about the police for as long as they exist. You can’t get the simple stuff right why even bother with something far more complex?
Tawana Brawley was not the left. But she was telling the truth.

If the left hated police, they would have no reason to lie about them when the truth is so much worse than the propaganda-shaped public mind imagines.
 

EatTheRich

President
The left will set back in their crib and never wear the badge and face the criminals shooting at them.............then cry when one of the criminals die and rejoice when a cop dies.........

write-on is the lefts poster boy
Cops are on the front lines of the class war against the workers.
 

EatTheRich

President
Your blatantly dishonest OP says it clearly. You misstate what qualified immunity means, then lie about police actions and motives. And you vote for a party that disrespects the men and women who do the job, how they’re trained and put mistaken notions and negative mindsets to their activity.
Piss off with your disgraceful lies
Are you saying that you can only vote for certain parties and still be on the right side of the law?
 

reason10

Governor
I see it as cops know that they can do whatever they want without any recourse and is one of the reasons the fascist right wing love it.


You?
First of all, your source is a far left screed. No surprises there. You Left Reich wingers have always had a problem with the truth. Tell us again how Trump, The Wall, and other goose stepping left wing hate targets somehow have anything to do with the concept of qualified immunity.

Secondly, fascist right wing is an oxymoron. Total opposite. The only fascism today in America comes from your goose stepping left wing, just as it did in Nazi Germany.

Now to educate you and the other third grade dropouts here:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity

Specifically, qualified immunity protects a government official from lawsuits alleging that the official violated a plaintiff's rights, only allowing suits where officials violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right. When determining whether or not a right was “clearly established,” courts consider whether a hypothetical reasonable official would have known that the defendant’s conduct violated the plaintiff’s rights. Courts conducting this analysis apply the law that was in force at the time of the alleged violation, not the law in effect when the court considers the case.


Qualified immunity is not immunity from having to pay money damages, but rather immunity from having to go through the costs of a trial at all. Accordingly, courts must resolve qualified immunity issues as early in a case as possible, preferably before discovery.


Qualified immunity only applies to suits against government officials as individuals, not suits against the government for damages caused by the officials’ actions. Although qualified immunity frequently appears in cases involving police officers, it also applies to most other executive branch officials. While judges, prosecutors, legislators, and some other government officials do not receive qualified immunity, most are protected by other immunity doctrines.

Police ARE held accountable for their actions, and they are held to a higher standard than the animals they have to arrest.

Find someone with an education to explain these facts to you. There isn't enough space for me to do so, and besides that I'm going to be busy next week subbing for 7th graders in "Intensive Reading Class" (which means they have a third grade reading level, kinda like you left wingers.)
 

reason10

Governor
Again, I know what qualified immunity is.

No you don't. You just spew what your fellow left wing people tell you to spew. You don't know the law.

Do yourself a favor and see the multiple disastrous moments that shows qualified immunity should be abolished.

You haven't posted ANY moments where a police officer (or any other government officials, since qualified immunity doesn't just apply to cops) is not held accountable for his/her actions.

The beating of Rodney King is a good place to start. And since then, the problem has only gotten worse with cops getting away with murder.

Rodney King was not murdered. He was alive after getting a proper beatdown.

How many times have cops shot a fleeing suspect in the back and get off when the case finally goes to court?

How many scumbags shoot a cop in the back and get off because of liberal lawyers.

And when someone tries to stop the corruption? Serpico wasn't the only one trying.

At least he lived. Others didn't.


Name those who died.

Your casual dismissal of police corruption adds to the problem.

Nobody has dismissed the problem of police corruption. Your BIGOTED mind assumes ALL cops are bad, just like your Democrat Party assumes ALL blacks are stupid and lazy and must be taken care of with welfare.

This thread was based on information that was false and misleading. You might as well have quoted THE VIEW.

Grow up. Grow a brain. Get a job.

It's got to tedious being stupid and living on one's parents' basement, spewing hate all day long online.
 

EatTheRich

President
First of all, your source is a far left screed. No surprises there. You Left Reich wingers have always had a problem with the truth. Tell us again how Trump, The Wall, and other goose stepping left wing hate targets somehow have anything to do with the concept of qualified immunity.

Secondly, fascist right wing is an oxymoron. Total opposite. The only fascism today in America comes from your goose stepping left wing, just as it did in Nazi Germany.

Now to educate you and the other third grade dropouts here:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity

Specifically, qualified immunity protects a government official from lawsuits alleging that the official violated a plaintiff's rights, only allowing suits where officials violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right. When determining whether or not a right was “clearly established,” courts consider whether a hypothetical reasonable official would have known that the defendant’s conduct violated the plaintiff’s rights. Courts conducting this analysis apply the law that was in force at the time of the alleged violation, not the law in effect when the court considers the case.


Qualified immunity is not immunity from having to pay money damages, but rather immunity from having to go through the costs of a trial at all. Accordingly, courts must resolve qualified immunity issues as early in a case as possible, preferably before discovery.


Qualified immunity only applies to suits against government officials as individuals, not suits against the government for damages caused by the officials’ actions. Although qualified immunity frequently appears in cases involving police officers, it also applies to most other executive branch officials. While judges, prosecutors, legislators, and some other government officials do not receive qualified immunity, most are protected by other immunity doctrines.

Police ARE held accountable for their actions, and they are held to a higher standard than the animals they have to arrest.

Find someone with an education to explain these facts to you. There isn't enough space for me to do so, and besides that I'm going to be busy next week subbing for 7th graders in "Intensive Reading Class" (which means they have a third grade reading level, kinda like you left wingers.)
The Nazis were right-wing. All fascists are right-wing. A defining characteristic of fascism is hatred of the left.

“Qualified immunity” as applied=“Oh, that cop had no way of knowing it would be a constitutional violation to sodomize that compliant suspect with a nightstick. Oh, well, no way they can be sued.”
 

EatTheRich

President
Again, I know what qualified immunity is.

No you don't. You just spew what your fellow left wing people tell you to spew. You don't know the law.

Do yourself a favor and see the multiple disastrous moments that shows qualified immunity should be abolished.

You haven't posted ANY moments where a police officer (or any other government officials, since qualified immunity doesn't just apply to cops) is not held accountable for his/her actions.

The beating of Rodney King is a good place to start. And since then, the problem has only gotten worse with cops getting away with murder.

Rodney King was not murdered. He was alive after getting a proper beatdown.

How many times have cops shot a fleeing suspect in the back and get off when the case finally goes to court?

How many scumbags shoot a cop in the back and get off because of liberal lawyers.

And when someone tries to stop the corruption? Serpico wasn't the only one trying.

At least he lived. Others didn't.


Name those who died.

Your casual dismissal of police corruption adds to the problem.

Nobody has dismissed the problem of police corruption. Your BIGOTED mind assumes ALL cops are bad, just like your Democrat Party assumes ALL blacks are stupid and lazy and must be taken care of with welfare.

This thread was based on information that was false and misleading. You might as well have quoted THE VIEW.

Grow up. Grow a brain. Get a job.

It's got to tedious being stupid and living on one's parents' basement, spewing hate all day long online.
All cops are bad because good cops systematically get killed by other cops, like Daniel Faulkner, or at least drummed off the force and probably jailed. Whether Rodney King was murdered or not, his case is an example of police doing exactly what they are trained to do and violating the Constitution and laws with reckless abandon.
 
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