What if "hoax" turns out to be the right word?

[EatTheRich]

Your very first answer in polio is BS. SO I stopped right there. They also claim to have invented television, electricity, automobiles, and the McDonald's dollar menu.

Translation: “My ignorance is invincible. You can never educate me if I refuse to be educated.”

The Sabin vaccine for polio (first oral vaccine and first live-virus vaccine, which means that unlike the Salk vaccine it was efficacious enough to provide complete herd immunity) was in fact developed in the Soviet Union.

 

[kaz]

honestly, trump seems pretty indifferent about it.

So you're a mind reader now. I don't believe you can read anyone's mind, much less Trump's. You hate him too much for anyone with a critical mind you're doing anything but projecting.

And even if you were right, it's still better than rooting for deaths as Democrats are so blatantly doing thinking somehow it'll help you in the election. How'd Russia Mueller Kavanaugh Ukraine Bolton coronavirus work out for you anyway?

 

[kaz]

No, it was developed by the Cuban government.

Well of course it was, comrade. Government makes all real inventions. The airplane, the automobile, spaghetti. All hail government!

Remember how you didn't believe in government while you call for totalitarian government? We would sit and starve and die without government to feed us. We would sleep in leaves without government to give us beds.

BTW, you realize it's the government that doesn't give Americans the freedom to decide what to put in our bodies and take these treatments, right? The government you want to be all powerful and not exist

 

[now_what]

So you're a mind reader now. I don't believe you can read anyone's mind, much less Trump's. You hate him too much for anyone with a critical mind you're doing anything but projecting.

And even if you were right, it's still better than rooting for deaths as Democrats are so blatantly doing thinking somehow it'll help you in the election. How'd Russia Mueller Kavanaugh Ukraine Bolton coronavirus work out for you anyway?

Whoa, calm down, you’re raging. Reread my post slowly and without blood rushing to your head and you’ll see that it was my guess, knowing his past behavior and lack of caring for people other than himself. An opinion. Your opinion will be different, as somebody that adores him. It is what it is.

You okay now?

 

[EatTheRich]

Well of course it was, comrade. Government makes all real inventions. The airplane, the automobile, spaghetti. All hail government!

Remember how you didn't believe in government while you call for totalitarian government? We would sit and starve and die without government to feed us. We would sleep in leaves without government to give us beds.

BTW, you realize it's the government that doesn't give Americans the freedom to decide what to put in our bodies and take these treatments, right? The government you want to be all powerful and not exist

Straw man much?

There is a fundamental difference between a capitalist state ... which exists to repress the masses for the benefit of the ruling capitalists ... and a workers’ state ... which exists to protect the ruling masses.

 

[kaz]

Straw man much?

There is a fundamental difference between a capitalist state ... which exists to repress the masses for the benefit of the ruling capitalists ... and a workers’ state ... which exists to protect the ruling masses.

How can you repress the masses by giving them free choice? That's just stupid.

Only government can repress the masses because government has the guns

 

[as seen on tv]

He's lying. It's not because Cuba is advanced, it's because our regressive FDA won't approve treatments even for people who want to be test subjects and will let them die until their process is followed. In this case I believe he's referring to a lung cancer vaccine.

It was developed by an American company. Cuba just allows patients to choose to take it

Sort of like that movie " the constant gardener"?

 

[as seen on tv]

Straw man much?

There is a fundamental difference between a capitalist state ... which exists to repress the masses for the benefit of the ruling capitalists ... and a workers’ state ... which exists to protect the ruling masses.

Yeah. How did that work out for the russians, Cubans, east germans, latvians, poles, Ukrainians, Maoist chinese . . .

 

[EatTheRich]

How can you repress the masses by giving them free choice? That's just stupid.

Only government can repress the masses because government has the guns

The masses do not have “free choice” under capitalism. They have the choice to work for the capitalists or to starve, which is no choice at all.

Private property and the rule of a rich minority cannot exist without government.

 

[EatTheRich]

Yeah. How did that work out for the russians, Cubans, east germans, latvians, poles, Ukrainians, Maoist chinese . . .

Latvia was essentially a capitalist colony maintained by the USSR for the narrow national benefit of Russians. Everywhere else you mention, the standard of living went way up under socialism.

 

[kaz]

The masses do not have “free choice” under capitalism. They have the choice to work for the capitalists or to starve, which is no choice at all.

Private property and the rule of a rich minority cannot exist without government.

Marxist dogma

 

[EatTheRich]

Marxist dogma

“Dogma” is not susceptible to refutation by facts. The Marxist position, on the other hand, would be abandoned by Marxists if it contradicted the facts, since “seeking truth from facts” is the essence of the Marxist scientific method.

 

[kaz]

“Dogma” is not susceptible to refutation by facts. The Marxist position, on the other hand, would be abandoned by Marxists if it contradicted the facts, since “seeking truth from facts” is the essence of the Marxist scientific method.

You know nothing about economics. You only believe it because you believe Marxist dogma on faith. It's your religion

 

[EatTheRich]

You know nothing about economics. You only believe it because you believe Marxist dogma on faith. It's your religion

I believe it because I see it.

 

[kaz]

I believe it because I see it.

Touche. You made me laugh. You do see it, that I believe. You see all sorts of magical fantasy creatures, like competent government making decisions over our lives. You see totalitarian government as the goal while you oppose the existence of government. I have no problem believing you see fantasy Marxist economic dogma working. You'd pass a lie detector test

 

[EatTheRich]

Touche. You made me laugh. You do see it, that I believe. You see all sorts of magical fantasy creatures, like competent government making decisions over our lives. You see totalitarian government as the goal while you oppose the existence of government. I have no problem believing you see fantasy Marxist economic dogma working. You'd pass a lie detector test

Your position is that anyone is free to quit their job and that title to property exists independent of the law?

 

[kaz]

Your position is that anyone is free to quit their job and that title to property exists independent of the law?

No idea what that is supposed to mean. But wow, you really suck at paraphrasing. Maybe you should read what I wrote before you paraphrase it because this is just loonie tunes.

I do think you should be able to purchase property, move onto that property and cut yourself off from the world. Property taxes are evil. They make the government the owner of all property. You don't pay your rent, they take your property. You should be able to buy property and if you can sustain yourself, stay on that property and live

 

[Dawg]

Bullshit, I am glad that Epstein was arrested for sex trafficking, Cosby was arrested and convicted for drugging and sexually assaulting women and Weinstein the movie big shot was convicted of sexually harassing and assaulting women by using his power over them. I am not “looking the other way Bo. I am just not as obsessed over it as you. Your whole existence here seems to be a big crying fest over how horrible this country and it’s people are and yet you do nothing about it. Maybe you should get a hobby or something. You really are a miserable little whiner. And screw you over the comment about ogling children.

Jack, heads are fixing to roll and whacking Espetein didn't stop it:

MSN

www.msn.com

Appears he had the right connections in high places.

 

[worldlymrb]

I'm not saying the illness itself is a political hoax.

But possibly the statistics are an inadvertent hoax. Consider this:

1. The coronavirus mortality rate is endlessly reported as "2-3 percent"

2. But that's ONLY the result if we're using official chinese data.

3. Other nations have thousands of infections, but negligible fatalities.

4. The USA has a single fatality.

5. Even the quarantined cruise ship had lower than 1/4 of 1% mortality.

6. My take is that the DIAGNOSED
victims are far lower than actually occurring. Chinas official 2,000 deaths pales in comparison to the USA flu deaths of 8,000.

7. California complained two days ago they only had 200 test lists. So essentially, they6ve tested ALMOST NOBODY.

8. If infection rates in china are under-reported due to misdiagnosis as ordinary flu, or no diagnosis at all due to lack of medical access, and also official Chinese misrepresentation of the infection rare ( which the WHO is now accusing them of, from the very start) then chinas 2,000 deaths could look almost benign against an infection rate of 50-100 million.

About the same ate of this season's USA flu mortality.

Stand by for the media frenzy when the second American patient inevitably dies. But lets also to ignore the hundreds dying EACH WEEK in america from garden variety flu .

The coronavirus statistics and hype dont stand up well to rational analysis.

You may now proceed with stocking up on: face masks; canned gooods: bottled water; gasoline; candles, and ammo.

Enjoy the rush.

The average corona virus carriers thinks he or she has the flu, or isnt showing ANY symptoms.

The average american is an idiot when it comes to statistics. The average reporter is probably worse, with a degree in "communication arts" or "political science".

Geez... I thought you meant the Russia Collusion Hoax.

So many hoaxes being organized by the "resistance" it's hard to keep track of.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

I cant name a single health scare - not even Ebola or the post 9/11 anthrax panic - that came close to the dire predictions of corporate media which feeds off the advertising that comes with panic and hysteria.

Reality check: if the impeachment trial was still underway, which story would the media be hyping?

If the impeachment trial was still underway, there would be no coronavirus story.