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what if I choose to be gay

Could a person choose to be Gay

  • No you can't

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Yes it could be a choice

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • It would be morally wrong to do so

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • it would be wrong to be straight when really gay

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

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Commentator
it was more humane when Lenny shot the big guy in the head. (wasn't his name Lenny? "Of mice and men")
 

kgswiger

Council Member
Hospitalized in quotes sounds like a euphemism for incarcerated somewhere other than a prison. I have no problem with that, as I believe society's primary obligation is to protect children. Moving them from place to place only provides them with a new set of potential victims, and registration and monitoring has mixed results at best. Even with restrictions, turning someone with a proven-predilection towards molestation loose on society seems like a very bad idea.
There was a case in 2003 of a teacher who became a sexaholic child molester at the age of 40. In 2000, he started collecting porn, a lot of it child porn. Then he started hitting on his step-daughter, who was, if memory serves, about 10. His wife called police, and he was arrested. He was convicted, and failed the sex rehab they sent him to, because he couldn't stop asking for sex.

The day before he was to be sentenced to prison, he went to the ER, complaining about a headache. He had an egg-sized tumor pressing on his frontal lobes. They removed the tumor surgically, and the sex addiction and pedophilia went away. He moved back in with his wife and step-daughter, and things were fine. Then, he started feeling the pedophilia urges again, and went back to the hospital. The tumor had grown partway back, but it wasn't as large. They removed it, and once again, the urges went away.

We should probably make a PET scan a requirement for anyone charged with molesting a child.
 

mark14

Council Member
obviously, but the point is, pedophiles have just as much claim to genetical inclination as gays do.
No. What is your point? You seem to be trying to compare homosexuality to pedophilia? How about we say...

obviously, but the point is, gays have just as much claim to genetic inclination as heterosexuals do.
 

mark14

Council Member
There was a case in 2003 of a teacher who became a sexaholic child molester at the age of 40. In 2000, he started collecting porn, a lot of it child porn. Then he started hitting on his step-daughter, who was, if memory serves, about 10. His wife called police, and he was arrested. He was convicted, and failed the sex rehab they sent him to, because he couldn't stop asking for sex.

The day before he was to be sentenced to prison, he went to the ER, complaining about a headache. He had an egg-sized tumor pressing on his frontal lobes. They removed the tumor surgically, and the sex addiction and pedophilia went away. He moved back in with his wife and step-daughter, and things were fine. Then, he started feeling the pedophilia urges again, and went back to the hospital. The tumor had grown partway back, but it wasn't as large. They removed it, and once again, the urges went away.

We should probably make a PET scan a requirement for anyone charged with molesting a child.
LOL. Yes it is all cause by brain tumors!
 
D

Doc

Guest
I would agree with that, on the left your taught to question things and on the right your told what to believe and are expected to do just that.
That is not an accurate statement. At least half of it, is based entirely on your own stereotypes and generalizations.
 

888888

Council Member
Nothing wrong with it, but, I am of the opinion that you can not "choose" to be gay.

But, I honestly would not know, as I am not Gay.

I will say, however, that most of the gays I have known, did not believe they had a "choice." A few, in particular, could have had any woman they wanted, IF they wanted them. (Of course, then the chicks would have likely despised them.....)
well it's a fact that a lot of men who really are gay, choose to lead a life of straightness and I don't think that women in their life's at the time, despised them. Do you?
 

mark14

Council Member
quote--"Is being Republican a choice?

And I am not equating being a Republican with being a sex offender. I only pose the question for illustrative purposes to draw a comparison between different types of urges and choices."

Actually many sex offenders are Republican. An enormous percentage. It comes from all the repression and being badly wired in the cranium.

Facts Facts Facts. The Republicans hate them and do not rely on them for their arguments. They always say it will make jobs and that is supposed to be the right answer every time they want to rape, kill poison or destroy.... or be a sex offender. Amen.
I don't know if you have statistics to back up you claim but at least you didn't fall into the trap of saying many Republicans are sex offenders. Not many are but I also believe that many people with bad behaviors tend to hide where they think others would be least likely to look for them and the pickings are easy; churches, right wing cause and the like.
 

kgswiger

Council Member
it was more humane when Lenny shot the big guy in the head. (wasn't his name Lenny? "Of mice and men")
Close. Lenny Small was the big guy. George was the friend who shot him, after he accidentally kills Curly's wife. Kind of a depressing book.
 

888888

Council Member
That is not an accurate statement. At least half of it, is based entirely on your own stereotypes and generalizations.
Yes, it's more about what I have seen in life. Many people just can't handle the truth.
 

mark14

Council Member
If I can't figure out what?

the card you are holding behind your back? it's the three of hearts.
Why it isn't "one hell of an illustration of the diametrically opposed concepts at work in our laws. (because you can not discriminate against gays, but pedophiles are criminals)"

You sure seem to be thinking with less than half a deck.
 

kgswiger

Council Member
LOL. Yes it is all cause by brain tumors!
Not all of it, of course, but we know it happened in one case. Since we don't do PET scans on child molesters, we have no idea what the percentage with tumors or brain damage might be. A PET scan either rules out a tumor immediately, or indicates that the condition in this person may be rectifiable with surgery.
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Would there be something wrong with that? If a person could be either but they choose the gay side of things does that mean they are a bad person?
If you chose to be gay, I'd stay out of airport restrooms. You might run into Larry Craig. And I voted for the top line. People are born gay IMHO.
 

mark14

Council Member
Nothing wrong with it, but, I am of the opinion that you can not "choose" to be gay.

But, I honestly would not know, as I am not Gay.

I will say, however, that most of the gays I have known, did not believe they had a "choice." A few, in particular, could have had any woman they wanted, IF they wanted them. (Of course, then the chicks would have likely despised them.....)
Are you sure you aren't gay, though I personally would beat the crap out of anyone who suggested such a thing to me, but doesn't it kind of bother your when people wear such awful clothes and decorate their living rooms so tastelessly? Even if it doesn't acting like you do is a pretty good trick to gain the confidences of women as you note!
 

Huskyoverlord

Council Member
on the left we look at the outcome and say why, on the right they choose to say why not?
Okay you want the answer to this burning question you have , well this dude and his wife wrote this big book in the 50's and did one of the most contraversal studies ever. The outcome was a sliding scale of 1 being totally gay and 10 being totally straight and most people fall about a five. I feel i fall about a 7. Him and his wife's marriage was on the rocks for awhile because of their forays into group sex and everything you could imagine. He said the one thing of his study was incomplete and that was love , and love cannot be discounted. He study was scientific and of course during the 50's and 60's he was discounted and discredited for finding the truth. so to answer your question , to some it's a choice and some are just born that way ( like the lady gaga song ) read his studies , wish i could remember dates and names so sorry:( People are unique and needed to be treated as such in non-legal forms. In the eyes of the law we should all be the same no matter what , gender , color or sexual prefrance.
 

mark14

Council Member
If you chose to be gay, I'd stay out of airport restrooms. You might run into Larry Craig. And I voted for the top line. People are born gay IMHO.
But if you pray for them to develop a brain tumor it might cure them!
 

Dino

Russian Asset
No, they could sure choose it and then be open to all the pitfalls/benefits of such a choice. Why not? There is no test or certification needed.
 

mark14

Council Member
Husky, I agree "In the eyes of the law we should all be the same no matter what , gender , color or sexual preference" provided behavior is between consenting adults.
 
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