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What is fair pay and taxation?

Corruptbuddha

Governor
'Fair' pay is that rate you earn to compensate you based on your labor and the amount of return on that wage you provide. Negotiated by the employer and the employee.

A 'fair' tax is that which you are forced to pay the government based on a percentage of your income. Negotiated by thieves in the Congress.


Taxes, after all, are dues that we (some of us ) pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt (*Edited for the modern Democrat)
 

IrishOne

Mayor
For all the war mongering the right does, you'd think they would be responsible enough to want to pay for the wars they start...

So all the teachers, cops and other government employees are getting what they are worth and we shouldn't cut their pay or benefits. I'm sure they appreciate your support. Obviously ditto all the CEO"S and hedge fund maniagers. But how do you define "error or malfeasence (sic)"?

So are you just flat tax or also flat earth?
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
For all the war mongering the right does, you'd think they would be responsible enough to want to pay for the wars they start...
Ms. Irish one,

Which war are you referring to? The last war started by the US was the Mexican American war in 1848. I would think that war has been long since paid for.
 

IrishOne

Mayor
Since you have a history book out ( a rather old one), check to see how many times that the richest people in the USA denied taxes to pay for our military action like in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Ms. Irish one,

Which war are you referring to? The last war started by the US was the Mexican American war in 1848. I would think that war has been long since paid for.
 

mark14

Council Member
Mr. Mark,

You are incorrect in that you confuse worth with value. Worth is the going price of commodity, in this case, labor. It is a set compensation package based on what is negotiated between an employeer and an employee. Ergo, by definition, you cannot pay someone more or less than what they are worth because that price has already been prearrainged and set.

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"worth/wərTH/

Noun:
The value equivalent to that of someone or something under consideration; the level at which someone or something deserves to be valued..."
 

mark14

Council Member
'Fair' pay is that rate you earn to compensate you based on your labor and the amount of return on that wage you provide. Negotiated by the employer and the employee.

A 'fair' tax is that which you are forced to pay the government based on a percentage of your income. Negotiated by thieves in the Congress.


Taxes, after all, are dues that we (some of us ) pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt (*Edited for the modern Democrat)
Good reply
 

mark14

Council Member
UPNYA2

"Can't give you any sort of an "explanation", conservative or otherwise because no where in that ramble of liberal talking points did you "explain" ANY of what you are yammering for or against"


Bet you have a hell of a time wrapping your mind around and explaining vague concepts like

" all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." and "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"

too.

It isn't yammering but a lack of imagination on your part that makes you unable to discuss the concepts I clearly presented.
 

mark14

Council Member
Fair pay = As much as you can possibly make
Fair taxes = everyone pays the same rate.
So is this to say that as corporations, such as Exxon, are people they should pay at minimum the equivalent of the 15% that is collected from payrolls of poor working people?
 
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