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Why republicans are idiots.

Ted Cruz's goal was to repeal was Obamacare. His chosen tactic: shut down the government. it didn't work, he failed at repealing Obamacare. his tactics failed to produce the result he wanted. Why are they stuck on these failing tactics? Are they just too stupid or weak to come up with a plan that will achieve their goals?
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Ted Cruz's goal was to repeal was Obamacare. His chosen tactic: shut down the government. it didn't work, he failed at repealing Obamacare. his tactics failed to produce the result he wanted. Why are they stuck on these failing tactics? Are they just too stupid or weak to come up with a plan that will achieve their goals?
Talk about "not achieving their goals"...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2015/10/14/despite-health-reform-323-million-are-uninsured/

A full 32.3 million non-elderly people do not have health insurance despite the costly health reform act and the individual mandate tax penalty, new analysis shows.

Talk about stupid?

You morons supporting this welfare program take the knish!
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Ted Cruz's goal was to repeal was Obamacare. His chosen tactic: shut down the government. it didn't work, he failed at repealing Obamacare. his tactics failed to produce the result he wanted. Why are they stuck on these failing tactics? Are they just too stupid or weak to come up with a plan that will achieve their goals?
Let's think this through. You are using one incident and citing one politician to make the case why an entire political party is "idiots". Using your logic, I could portray the entire Demcoratic Party as "idiots" because they haven't been able to get any meaningful gun control laws passed, despite the Thug-in-Chief taking every possible opportunity to demonize guns.

Just who is it that's the idiot????????????

I suggest you look int he mirror.
 
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Deleted member 21794

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Talk about "not achieving their goals"...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2015/10/14/despite-health-reform-323-million-are-uninsured/

A full 32.3 million non-elderly people do not have health insurance despite the costly health reform act and the individual mandate tax penalty, new analysis shows.

Talk about stupid?

You morons supporting this welfare program take the knish!
But hey at least we're all saving $2,500 on premiums every year. Oh wait a minute...
 
Talk about "not achieving their goals"...

http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2015/10/14/despite-health-reform-323-million-are-uninsured/

A full 32.3 million non-elderly people do not have health insurance despite the costly health reform act and the individual mandate tax penalty, new analysis shows.

Talk about stupid?

You morons supporting this welfare program take the knish!
The goal of Obamacare is too decrease the number uninsured. it's working by every measure. The number is of uninsured isn't gonna completely drop to 0, a decrease is a step in the right direction.
 
Let's think this through. You are using one incident and citing one politician to make the case why an entire political party is "idiots". Using your logic, I could portray the entire Demcoratic Party as "idiots" because they haven't been able to get any meaningful gun control laws passed, despite the Thug-in-Chief taking every possible opportunity to demonize guns.

Just who is it that's the idiot????????????

I suggest you look int he mirror.
you're are probably right, Obama should personally land in your yard, under the cover of night in a stealth helicopter, bust down your front door, and take your guns.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
The goal of Obamacare is too decrease the number uninsured. it's working by every measure. The number is of uninsured isn't gonna completely drop to 0, a decrease is a step in the right direction.
Nope, not what was promised, and it was not a move that will be cost-effective.

This was a major scam from jump street. The idiots are the ones who didn't realize it or don't have the brains to face the facts.
"Idiot" Republicans can't repeal it because of opposition from the destructive Democratic Party.
Your blame is again misplaced.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
you're are probably right, Obama should personally land in your yard, under the cover of night in a stealth helicopter, bust down your front door, and take your guns.
Wow, you did even better than look in the mirror with that rant. Thanks for proving my point beyond my wildest expectations. Please, just post more. Anything will do. I need not saying anything more with you on my side.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
The goal of Obamacare is too decrease the number uninsured. it's working by every measure. The number is of uninsured isn't gonna completely drop to 0, a decrease is a step in the right direction.
Complete and total dishonesty. Obama promised $2,500 per family savings over and over and over again. Instead, premiums have risen substantially. Why are you so dishonest?
 

oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
The goal of Obamacare is too decrease the number uninsured. it's working by every measure. The number is of uninsured isn't gonna completely drop to 0, a decrease is a step in the right direction.

well by golly what a surprise!

if you give it to some at a zero cost to them,,or, like section 8 housing,,remove 75% of that cost..you think the ones getting for free/greatly reduced wont love it?

do you think the others footing the bill WILL love it?

LOL!
 

Lukey

Senator
well by golly what a surprise!

if you give it to some at a zero cost to them,,or, like section 8 housing,,remove 75% of that cost..you think the ones getting for free/greatly reduced wont love it?

do you think the others footing the bill WILL love it?

LOL!
Exactly! 80% of the "newly insured" are from the Medicaid expansion. Free!

The rest are probably those who would have gotten insured without Obamacare because they went to work somewhere that provides insurance.
 
Complete and total dishonesty. Obama promised $2,500 per family savings over and over and over again. Instead, premiums have risen substantially. Why are you so dishonest?
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
Has the Obama cartel taken that position? I doubt it, given it sounds like desperate Obama drone tripe. In fact, some of it reads downright silly. Here's an example:

it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance.


Explain to me how giving heavily subsidized insurance lowers the price curve. Of course, that's assuming that's what you meant. Your sentence isn't very well-worded at all. Do you not realize that it INCREASES the price curve by having those of us who pay the bills pay more?

Honestly, you don't seem to have even rudimentary reasoning skills to handle an issue much more complicated than red, yellow and green traffic lights.

Yeah, just keep typing. All I need to do is repost your own words and confront them with reality. By all means, please continue.
 

Lukey

Senator
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
Irrelevant political propaganda:

http://www.barchart.com/headlines/story/11375791/another-obamacare-shock-is-coming-2016-deductibles

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-09-22/next-health-care-fight-out-of-pocket-costs

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/11/209513-bad-news-obamacare-release-newest-gallup-poll-results/
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
Oh and you say ObamaScam doesn't affect supply or demand for health care???? Are you insane???????????? How could it NOT affect supply and demand when it forces people, under threat of IRS penalty, to purchase health insurance????????

My god man do you realize what complete tripe you are posting??????

 

UPNYA2

Mayor
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
Yeah.

So if some are forced to pay for their own AND other people's health insurance, in the long run that is a good thing because, hey, it will eventually be cheaper than some being forced to pay for their own AND other people's health care .................

Clear as mud, I can't begin to even imagine why it is some people might feel inclined to oppose such a noble gesture.
 
Oh and you say ObamaScam doesn't affect supply or demand for health care???? Are you insane???????????? How could it NOT affect supply and demand when it forces people, under threat of IRS penalty, to purchase health insurance????????

My god man do you realize what complete tripe you are posting??????

Obamacare has nothing do with supply and demand for healthcare. People are gonna get sick and hurt and go to the doctor doesn't matter if they have insurance or not. Obamacare does not create any doctors. No change in supply or demand for healthcare. it does affect the amount of people that pay for the healthcare their receive. It does affect the supply and demand for health insurance, but their are provisions to make sure the insurers don't run wild and charge what ever they want. Granted, Hospitals can still bill whatever the hell they want, they can increase their profit margin if they want. but now they don't increasing overheads as justification for raising prices.
 

Saladin2

Senator
Supporting Member
The goal of Obamacare is too decrease the number uninsured. it's working by every measure. The number is of uninsured isn't gonna completely drop to 0, a decrease is a step in the right direction.
You sound like you actually care about many of your fellow Americans....remember these Republican ass holes are out for themselves...Screw everybody else
 

Saladin2

Senator
Supporting Member
The savings come from what you would be saving if we were stuck still using the health insurance system before Obamacare. health insurance premiums were rising before Obamacare took effect. Obamacare does not affect supply or demand for healthcare. it lowers the price curve by lowering the amount of indigents who don't pay for their healthcare by not getting insurance. hospitals are required to care for those people who choose not take personal responsibility and get insurance. people without insurance are just overhead for the hospitals. Eventually the cost of healthcare will stabilize because the healthcare providers overhead will stabilize. That is where your savings come from.
Again you are using logic and facts...Something these Republican idiots don't adhere to...They rather believe lies and hysterical non sense...It makes them feel better
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Obamacare has nothing do with supply and demand for healthcare. People are gonna get sick and hurt and go to the doctor doesn't matter if they have insurance or not. Obamacare does not create any doctors. No change in supply or demand for healthcare. it does affect the amount of people that pay for the healthcare their receive. It does affect the supply and demand for health insurance, but their are provisions to make sure the insurers don't run wild and charge what ever they want. Granted, Hospitals can still bill whatever the hell they want, they can increase their profit margin if they want. but now they don't increasing overheads as justification for raising prices.
No, you are incorrect. People with insurance will seek health care services more than if they don't have insurance. Once again you demonstrate you have not even a basic understanding of human nature or reality. You really have no business debating issues more complex than how pretty is a Barbie doll.
 
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