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Why the "Trump's a Racist" Narrative Doesn't Hold Any Credibility

EatTheRich

President
Your poll does not say democrats believe it was cold blooded murder. It says they think the grand jury should have sent the issue to trial...not that they'd have found Wilson guilty.
It also didn’t say they thought he should have been indicted for first-degree (premeditated or “cold blooded”) murder. That is righty’s “embellishment.”
 

EatTheRich

President
"Blacks as a group are also overrepresented among persons arrested for so-called white-collar crimes such as counterfeiting, fraud and embezzlement."
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/21/family-secret-what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-bl/

"for anti-trust and security fraud offenses in particular, whites account for some 99% of the perpetrators. But for every single other form of white collar crime, whites are actually under-represented compared to their share of the employed population."
https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/10/poverty-does-not-cause-crime/

Facts aren't "racist." The underlying causes of racial disparities in crime statistics are either racist or racial. If you think their racist, you say things like...

If you say things like that, you need facts to support your position and documentation to back up those facts.

If you believe that the underlying causes of racial disparities in crime statistics are racial, the burden of proof in the present ideological environment of America is on you, so you point to articles like this one:
https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/10/poverty-does-not-cause-crime/
that says things like, 'The “poverty causes crime” thesis does not hold water when we compare crime and poverty rates between racial groups today'
and articles like this one:
https://quillette.com/2019/01/25/how-real-is-systemic-racism-today/
that says things like, 'The beauty of “systemic racism” is its air of permanence. It is here forever, and its victims must be compensated in perpetuity. It has become the elusive and inexpugnable cause of all the ills of people of color.'
It’s a simple decduction.
1. The gaps between whites and Blacks in every aspect of life (for example the high-paying jobs that as @Dawg puts out are largely unavailable to Blacks, especially the minority of Blacks living in the inner city) are well established.
2. Race has no meaning independent of the social meaning we give it but is simply a system of “othering” set up to provide one group with opportunity at the expense of another.
3. Therefore the racial distribution of opportunity is in and of itself proof of systemic racism.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
It’s a simple decduction.
1. The gaps between whites and Blacks in every aspect of life (for example the high-paying jobs that as @Dawg puts out are largely unavailable to Blacks, especially the minority of Blacks living in the inner city) are well established.
2. Race has no meaning independent of the social meaning we give it but is simply a system of “othering” set up to provide one group with opportunity at the expense of another.
3. Therefore the racial distribution of opportunity is in and of itself proof of systemic racism.
Negative, it isn't a simple deduction and if Trump is as racist as progs post who and why gave him the Ellis Island Award? He wasn't called racist when he was donating to democrats or when Hill & Bill attended his wedding.

1. Blacks have as much opportunity as whites if they apply themselves instead of robbing 7/11's at 4am and now 16 year old Qwantterius will never have to worry about a job or his 17 year old partner in crime:

https://www.secondamendmentdaily.com/2019/08/gas-station-customer-shoots-kills-robber-in-self-defense
2. I'm sure the guy that shot Qwantterius was Black if in that part of city at 4am, is he as racist?
3. BS
 

EatTheRich

President
Negative, it isn't a simple deduction and if Trump is as racist as progs post who and why gave him the Ellis Island Award? He wasn't called racist when he was donating to democrats or when Hill & Bill attended his wedding.

1. Blacks have as much opportunity as whites if they apply themselves instead of robbing 7/11's at 4am and now 16 year old Qwantterius will never have to worry about a job or his 17 year old partner in crime:

https://www.secondamendmentdaily.com/2019/08/gas-station-customer-shoots-kills-robber-in-self-defense
2. I'm sure the guy that shot Qwantterius was Black if in that part of city at 4am, is he as racist?
3. BS
Trump got the Ellis Island award for being an ethnic German who was successful in New York. Not for anything to do with anti-racism. Nor was he the topic.

1. No, they don’t. You think he was robbing that store for sh*ts and grins? Or because our society made that the only way he could eat? Did you know that Black teen unemployment (remember, that’s the percentage of Black teens who are actively looking for jobs and can’t get them) is nearly as high as white unemployment during the Great Depression?
2. What is racist is the segregation and lack of opportunity that lead to senseless tragedies like this.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
If that reflected individual choice and not unequal opportunity, the distribution would not be skewed according to the arbitrary racial system of distribution of opportunity.

Except that it doesn't indicate any such thing. Dirt poor whites commit less crime than poor blacks. Rich blacks commit more crime than rich whites. Once again, you have a statistics problem on your side. You are still unable, as a mentally ill left winger, to process the fact that people CHOOSE to commit crimes. You are unable to admit that blacks commit higher rates of crime regardless of economic conditions. These are left wing racist philosophies. I don't want to hear anymore garble about how these criminals had no choice or how these statistics don't exist. That is worst of racism.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Are you backtracking your statement about race?

"As people get poorer, lazier, and more criminal they skew left."

That's a blanket statement that describes a small number of voters. I could make the following claim:

"As people get, more in favor of white supremacy, they skew right."

See, anybody can be ignorant, not just you.

That's a lot of dancing and dodging, tweedledumb. LOL. No one is worried about white nationalism because it represents such a small fraction of the electorate. You seem so scared of these imaginary boogeyman who have no representation. They are coming for you you mentally ill twit! They and the Russians. LMFAO.

Now you going to get back to my question? Why does the majority of your electorate come from such awful elements in society? The lazy, poor, and criminal chief among them. And, yes, whites tend to be less of all those things.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Trump got the Ellis Island award for being an ethnic German who was successful in New York. Not for anything to do with anti-racism. Nor was he the topic.

1. No, they don’t. You think he was robbing that store for sh*ts and grins? Or because our society made that the only way he could eat? Did you know that Black teen unemployment (remember, that’s the percentage of Black teens who are actively looking for jobs and can’t get them) is nearly as high as white unemployment during the Great Depression?
2. What is racist is the segregation and lack of opportunity that lead to senseless tragedies like this.
1. I doubt seriously that the two in that link were committing a crime so they could eat. There are simply too many safety net programs to make sure nobody is starving.
2. Note the fact that both mustered up enough cash to buy guns.
3. There are lots of jobs. We currently have 22 employees and advertise all over for applicants...and we are paying $12.50 an hour, free meal when working, half price when not on shift. People don't want to work.

Those guys were stealing to support a life style. Clothes, weed, booze....etc. Working is hard. We've had a pretty diverse group of employees, including one young man who did time for dealing and is now one of our managers. Born in the US, parents deported for illegal entry. We've also had another who seemed to start the day we magically started coming up short on the register. He wasn't stealing because he was hungry or had a family to support...His value system sucked.
 

EatTheRich

President
Except that it doesn't indicate any such thing. Dirt poor whites commit less crime than poor blacks. Rich blacks commit more crime than rich whites. Once again, you have a statistics problem on your side. You are still unable, as a mentally ill left winger, to process the fact that people CHOOSE to commit crimes. You are unable to admit that blacks commit higher rates of crime regardless of economic conditions. These are left wing racist philosophies. I don't want to hear anymore garble about how these criminals had no choice or how these statistics don't exist. That is worst of racism.
70% of poor whites live in neighborhoods where the majority of people are above the poverty line. 85% of poor Blacks live in neighborhoods where the majority is poor. In those neighborhoods, whites are actually more likely to commit violent crimes.

What is your explanation why Blacks commit crimes at higher rates? Good luck coming up with one that isn’t racist,
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Your poll does not say democrats believe it was cold blooded murder. It says they think the grand jury should have sent the issue to trial...not that they'd have found Wilson guilty.
So you think your ilk believe an innocent man should be sent to trial? Wow. I know you were desperate to support the low IQ and gullibility of your electorate but what you are suggesting is sheer evil. They know it never happened....but they want him prosecuted anyway. It is mentally sick.

middleview said:
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3636

That is people on the left, independents and people on the right.
Same poll I linked, buffoon. Try reading your material before you post, fool. It says only 8% of Republicans feel Donald Trump is racist. Do you lie for the sake of lying or do you just have a really low IQ? More than likely it's both.

And like I said, this poll reads much like the other polls. Dems believe Michael Brown was murdered in cold-blood. Dems believe Russian collusion. Dems believe Smollett was the victim of a hate crime. Dems believe Kavanaugh is a serial rapist. Your ilk were embarrassingly wrong then and now.

The regulations proposed by McCain in the senate were not blocked by anyone. The republicans had the majority. You claim democrats in the House blocked the legislation...tell me how.
John McCain was a SENATOR you moron. Not a simple Congressman. There are filibuster rules in the Senate. Dems promised to use the filibuster to block any attempt to reform the GSEs because they claimed doing so was really sinister and racist. It really shows the sickness of your people to push bad loans out so that your disgusting electorate can own homes. The worst of America.

The video was not as someone who saw Pelosi speak would have seen. The repetitive loop was obviously doctoring the video, making it look like she repeatedly said the same thing.
That's how highlights....and lowlights work in news programs, clown. Try watching SportsCenter. They'll show things in repetitive loops every single day. It is done to make sure people get the point of the play. No one actually thinks the same exact thing happened 5 times. Unless of course you are low IQ left winger. Then God only knows how your brain works. Face it, the claim that it was "doctored" was another one of your left wing lies.

Someone in the advance team from the White House did request the name be covered or the ship moved. I never said Trump made the request.
Nope. You are peddling backwards now. That was not YOURS nor the original left wing lie. Originally you floated a pic around of the name covered and claimed Trump did it. The pic was not from the day he visited the POTUS never made the request. When exposed as left wing liars you just changed it to "someone somewhere may have asked something but nothing ever happened.....please stop talking about it". LMFAO

Using buzzfeed to defend buzzfeed???? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! Good mentally ill, left winger. Now what did Mueller say? https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439594-mueller-report-rebuts-claim-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress

"with regard to Cohen's false statements to Congress, while there is evidence ... that the President knew Cohen provided false testimony to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow project, the evidence available to us does not establish that the President directed or aided Cohen's false testimony."

You are eviscerated and humiliated again. Dude, take some pride for once. You are getting worked and everyone is laughing at you. Admit you are gullible dunce and just stop doing it. Just doubling down on this left wing insanity is only making your mental health and IQ look worse.

Here is Obama's speech at the funeral. Feel free to find the place in that speech where he criticized the Dallas police department or the dead officers.


https://time.com/4403543/president-obama-dallas-shooting-memorial-service-speech-transcript/
"And while some suffer far more under racism’s burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination’s sting. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our police departments. We know this."

There is zero justification talking about racism in police departments in front of the families, friends, co-workers, and other mourners who were to honor these fallen officers who had put there lives on the line to protect the ability of the black lies matter group to protest and who had been viciously slaughtered by a left wing terrorist targeting white officers in direct response to Obama's rhetoric. Even at the funeral Obama couldn't let it go without taking a jab at police departments. This is sheer evil. Period. Your defense of it makes you just as evil.
 

EatTheRich

President
1. I doubt seriously that the two in that link were committing a crime so they could eat. There are simply too many safety net programs to make sure nobody is starving.
2. Note the fact that both mustered up enough cash to buy guns.
3. There are lots of jobs. We currently have 22 employees and advertise all over for applicants...and we are paying $12.50 an hour, free meal when working, half price when not on shift. People don't want to work.

Those guys were stealing to support a life style. Clothes, weed, booze....etc. Working is hard. We've had a pretty diverse group of employees, including one young man who did time for dealing and is now one of our managers. Born in the US, parents deported for illegal entry. We've also had another who seemed to start the day we magically started coming up short on the register. He wasn't stealing because he was hungry or had a family to support...His value system sucked.
$12.50 an hour is a starvation wage particularly for someone trying to support a family. Also, even if you were hiring 50 people, there are nearly 2 million unemployed Black youth in the U.S.

Maybe this kid did get addicted to alcohol as a result of the hand life dealt him. I’ve never heard of anyone stealing to support a weed habit. If you don’t have new clothes you can’t get a job.
 

EatTheRich

President
So you think your ilk believe an innocent man should be sent to trial? Wow. I know you were desperate to support the low IQ and gullibility of your electorate but what you are suggesting is sheer evil. They know it never happened....but they want him prosecuted anyway. It is mentally sick.



Same poll I linked, buffoon. Try reading your material before you post, fool. It says only 8% of Republicans feel Donald Trump is racist. Do you lie for the sake of lying or do you just have a really low IQ? More than likely it's both.

And like I said, this poll reads much like the other polls. Dems believe Michael Brown was murdered in cold-blood. Dems believe Russian collusion. Dems believe Smollett was the victim of a hate crime. Dems believe Kavanaugh is a serial rapist. Your ilk were embarrassingly wrong then and now.



John McCain was a SENATOR you moron. Not a simple Congressman. There are filibuster rules in the Senate. Dems promised to use the filibuster to block any attempt to reform the GSEs because they claimed doing so was really sinister and racist. It really shows the sickness of your people to push bad loans out so that your disgusting electorate can own homes. The worst of America.



That's how highlights....and lowlights work in news programs, clown. Try watching SportsCenter. They'll show things in repetitive loops every single day. It is done to make sure people get the point of the play. No one actually thinks the same exact thing happened 5 times. Unless of course you are low IQ left winger. Then God only knows how your brain works. Face it, the claim that it was "doctored" was another one of your left wing lies.



Nope. You are peddling backwards now. That was not YOURS nor the original left wing lie. Originally you floated a pic around of the name covered and claimed Trump did it. The pic was not from the day he visited the POTUS never made the request. When exposed as left wing liars you just changed it to "someone somewhere may have asked something but nothing ever happened.....please stop talking about it". LMFAO



Using buzzfeed to defend buzzfeed???? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! Good mentally ill, left winger. Now what did Mueller say? https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439594-mueller-report-rebuts-claim-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress

"with regard to Cohen's false statements to Congress, while there is evidence ... that the President knew Cohen provided false testimony to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow project, the evidence available to us does not establish that the President directed or aided Cohen's false testimony."

You are eviscerated and humiliated again. Dude, take some pride for once. You are getting worked and everyone is laughing at you. Admit you are gullible dunce and just stop doing it. Just doubling down on this left wing insanity is only making your mental health and IQ look worse.



"And while some suffer far more under racism’s burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination’s sting. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our police departments. We know this."

There is zero justification talking about racism in police departments in front of the families, friends, co-workers, and other mourners who were to honor these fallen officers who had put there lives on the line to protect the ability of the black lies matter group to protest and who had been viciously slaughtered by a left wing terrorist targeting white officers in direct response to Obama's rhetoric. Even at the funeral Obama couldn't let it go without taking a jab at police departments. This is sheer evil. Period. Your defense of it makes you just as evil.
If the funeral of people that police racism got killed is the wrong time to bring up police racism, when is the right time?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
70% of poor whites live in neighborhoods where the majority of people are above the poverty line. 85% of poor Blacks live in neighborhoods where the majority is poor. In those neighborhoods, whites are actually more likely to commit violent crimes.

What is your explanation why Blacks commit crimes at higher rates? Good luck coming up with one that isn’t racist,
Why cuz all yo0ur reasons were racist? Bad move.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
70% of poor whites live in neighborhoods where the majority of people are above the poverty line. 85% of poor Blacks live in neighborhoods where the majority is poor. In those neighborhoods, whites are actually more likely to commit violent crimes.

What is your explanation why Blacks commit crimes at higher rates? Good luck coming up with one that isn’t racist,

Poor whites above the poverty line .

Poor Blacks Living where majority is poor. Where whites are more likely to commit crime?

What on earth are you smoking. Makes zero sense.
 

EatTheRich

President
Poor whites above the poverty line .

Poor Blacks Living where majority is poor. Where whites are more likely to commit crime?

What on earth are you smoking. Makes zero sense.
Try reading again more carefully.

Most poor whites live alongside people who aren’t poor. Most poor Blacks live alongside other people who are also poor.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
If the funeral of people that police racism got killed is the wrong time to bring up police racism, when is the right time?
Cool. Maybe someone at the funeral of the American citizens killed in El Paso can get up and talk about how illegal immigration caused their murders. You are one sick, disgusting left winger. There is no reason to respond to your evil.
 
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