Will there be a Civil War in America?

[Woolleybugger]

I have been just about everywhere in Texas. Other than Austin, the richest parts of Dallas and Houston, the rest of it is a shit hole. They are very proud of their shit holes though. I have yet to see one single thing in Texas that can compare to countless spots anywhere in the West. Not one single thing. I take that back, the Big Bend is spectacular. That's it folks. The hill country? Nothing special, its only special compared to the rest of the state which says nothing. I drove from Great Falls Montana to Missoula last month. Every mile of it is more spectacular than anything in Texas. The west is filled with drives like that one, drives of every type of scenery you can imagine. I met a Texan once that said his favorite place in California was Bakersfield. He said it reminded him of Texas. That was the most honest thing I have ever heard a Texan say.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

I have been just about everywhere in Texas. Other than Austin, the richest parts of Dallas and Houston, the rest of it is a shit hole. They are very proud of their shit holes though. I have yet to see one single thing in Texas that can compare to countless spots anywhere in the West. Not one single thing. I take that back, the Big Bend is spectacular. That's it folks. The hill country? Nothing special, its only special compared to the rest of the state which says nothing. I drove from Great Falls Montana to Missoula last month. Every mile of it is more spectacular than anything in Texas. The west is filled with drives like that one, drives of every type of scenery you can imagine. I met a Texan once that said his favorite place in California was Bakersfield. He said it reminded him of Texas. That was the most honest thing I have ever heard a Texan say.

Californ is just another shithole state
Hell they even have shit trackers on an app.

 

[Woolleybugger]

Californ is just another shithole state
Hell they even have shit trackers on an app.

Keep working it, I am sure Texans lap this stuff up. We really don't care if you like our state. We know what we have, we love it and the less impact we have from shithole states the better.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Keep working it, I am sure Texans lap this stuff up. We really don't care if you like our state. We know what we have, we love it and the less impact we have from shithole states the better.

I'm not defending Texas, it can do that on it's own.
Californa is a shithole better to give it back to Mexico.

 

[freyasman]

My life is pretty damn good.

I'd say I'm sorry yours sucks, but to be honest I really don't give a shit.

My life doesn't suck by any means, and I intend to keep it that way. More importantly, I am doing what I can to ensure my grandchildren's lives don't suck anymore than necessary..... and pretending everything is just fine and there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about in this country (eyeroll) is not a good way to do that.

(And I honestly don't care how your life is going either.)

 

[freyasman]

I have been just about everywhere in Texas. Other than Austin, the richest parts of Dallas and Houston, the rest of it is a shit hole. They are very proud of their shit holes though. I have yet to see one single thing in Texas that can compare to countless spots anywhere in the West. Not one single thing. I take that back, the Big Bend is spectacular. That's it folks. The hill country? Nothing special, its only special compared to the rest of the state which says nothing. I drove from Great Falls Montana to Missoula last month. Every mile of it is more spectacular than anything in Texas. The west is filled with drives like that one, drives of every type of scenery you can imagine. I met a Texan once that said his favorite place in California was Bakersfield. He said it reminded him of Texas. That was the most honest thing I have ever heard a Texan say.

There's some beautiful country out west, no doubt.... but isn't most of it owned by the US government?

 

[guvnah]

My life doesn't suck by any means, and I intend to keep it that way. More importantly, I am doing what I can to ensure my grandchildren's lives don't suck anymore than necessary..... and pretending everything is just fine and there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about in this country (eyeroll) is not a good way to do that.

(And I honestly don't care how your life is going either.)

lol

There’s no rule that says curmudgeonly geezers necessarily have to believe the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

 

[guvnah]

The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split.

So my question to those who believe we’re on the brink of another civil war, is how do you envision the military splitting, thus giving both sides a fighting chance? Because if they don’t split, then it would be less like the Civil War and more like Shay’s Rebellion.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split.

So my question to those who believe we’re on the brink of another civil war, is how do you envision the military splitting, thus giving both sides a fighting chance? Because if they don’t split, then it would be less like the Civil War and more like Shay’s Rebellion.

Actually, the Guard makes up a large percentage of the military
Which is at the discretion of the state Governors.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/232330/us-military-force-numbers-by-service-branch-and-reserve-component/

 

[guvnah]

Actually, the Guard makes up a large percentage of the military
Which is at the discretion of the state Governors.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/232330/us-military-force-numbers-by-service-branch-and-reserve-component/

And?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

And?

The federal government doesn't control all of America's military hardware
There is your military split
That was the point you were trying to make wasn't it?

 

[guvnah]

The federal government doesn't control all of America's military hardware
There is your military split
That was the point you were trying to make wasn't it?

You said federal, not me.

And you still didn’t answer the question.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

You said federal, not me.

And you still didn’t answer the question.

Dodge away
1.Who were you thinking controlled the military?
"The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split."
If the governors recall their guards there is your military split.
And yes I did answer your question it's not my fault you failed to comprehend the results.

 

[guvnah]

Dodge away
1.Who were you thinking controlled the military?
"The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split."
If the governors recall their guards there is your military split.
And yes I did answer your question it's not my fault you failed to comprehend the results.

At the very least your answer is incomplete.

Are you saying it’d be state run military vs federal or are you saying it’ll be red states vs blue states? And if it’s the latter, how would the federally controlled military split?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

At the very least your answer is incomplete.

Are you saying it’d be state run military vs federal or are you saying it’ll be red states vs blue states? And if it’s the latter, how would the federally controlled military split?

you are trying to conflate a simple answer
"The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split"
Your military split would be the governors recalling their guard.

 

[guvnah]

you are trying to conflate a simple answer
"The key element that made The Civil War even possible was that the military split"
Your military split would be the governors recalling their guard.

You need at least two sides to have a war. So what side(s) would the governors take?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

You need at least two sides to have a war. So what side(s) would the governors take?

So you are moving the goal post since I solved your problem?

 

[guvnah]

So you are moving the goal post since I solved your problem?

No. I’m simply exploring the topic further.

I’m trying to understand how a civil war might actually come to pass. I would have thought someone who believed one was imminent might have actually thought it through.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

No. I’m simply exploring the topic further.

I’m trying to understand how a civil war might actually come to pass. I would have thought someone who believed one was imminent might have actually thought it through.

It's called moving the goal post I'm not speculating on something that hasn't happened yet.
I helped you with the issue you had.

 

[guvnah]

It's called moving the goal post I'm not speculating on something that hasn't happened yet.
I helped you with the issue you had.

My mistake.

I was under the impression you believed we were on the brink of a civil war.

Now that I know that you don’t, all that’s left to say is I agree.