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Yes, Pelosi is responsible for the Jan 6 disturbance

reason10

Governor
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/28/jim_jordan_why_didnt_pelosi_call_the_national_guard_on_16_a_question_that_needs_to_be_answered.html#!

Jim Jordan: Why Didn't Pelosi Call The National Guard On 1/6? A Question That Needs To Be Answered
"So they should have had help. They should have had more -- more National Guard or more police there. Why didn't they?" Jordan asked. ""Why didn't -- reports have surfaced that said that, before January 6, Speaker Pelosi vetoed having the National Guard. Press reports said that. Press reports said, on January 6, that Speaker Pelosi hesitated in calling up the National Guard."

We know that legally elected President Trump called for an additional 10,000 National Guard troops.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored

YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6: In some of his first public remarks since losing the November election, former President Donald Trump told Fox News that he warned the Pentagon “days before” that it was not ready for the crowd of Trump backers who would converge on Washington Jan. 6 and recommended calling up 10,000 National Guard troops.
Trump said he told “the top person” at the Pentagon, who at the time was acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, that the crowd was going to be massive based on the fact that “everybody I'd see” would say, ‘Oh, we're going to be at the rally. We're going to be at the rally.’”

“I said, ‘Look, this rally is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.’” Trump told Fox News host Steve Hilton Sunday night. “And I said that I think you should have 10,000 — I think I gave the number — I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready.”

Why did Pelosi tell the Guard to stand down?

Jim Jordan has the answer.

My hunch is, Trace, the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys and protect us is because, what did they do all last summer? They talked about defunding the police. They raised money to bail out rioters who attacked police.
And so when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people who attack police, it's kind of tough to call up more of them to protect yourself on January 6. But they're not going to address that question. They're just going to go after President Trump.


Yes, boys and girls. Legally elected President Trump tried to send the National Guard to riot torn blue state cities last summer. The mayors and governors rejecyed that action, leading to stuff like this, perpetrated by Black Lives Matter

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In fact, it was Kamala Harris who set up a fund to pay the bail for these animals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

https://alphanews.org/kamala-harris-fund/

Only the monumentally stupid can compare this harmless little romp
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(where only five died, none of which were police or members of Congress)

with this.

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with a minimum of 17 deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us
 

reason10

Governor
So I had to ask myself why the people here are continuing to bring up Jan 6. Basically, this is Joe's 2024 campaign.

The Trump side: Biden-worst inflation, skyrocketing gasoline prices, record numbers of Covid deaths, Afghanistan given back to the Taliban, armed with Billions of dollars of American military hardware, worst economy in history.

The Biden side: a fairy tale accounting of Jan 6.

And you people somehow believe Jan 6 (which was Pelosi's fault) will somehow get that man reelected?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
This is dumb as shit.
Doesn't change the fact that a sea of podunks stormed the capital, destroyed, hurt, and shit on things
 

reason10

Governor
This is dumb as shit.
Doesn't change the fact that a sea of podunks stormed the capital, destroyed, hurt, and shit on things
Nothing was destroyed. Nothing was burned down. It wasn't like that police station in Minneapolis that WAS burned down.

Had LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP ordered that half a million supporters to riot, the Capitol building would be gone and most of Congress would be dead or in the hospital.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Nothing was destroyed. Nothing was burned down. It wasn't like that police station in Minneapolis that WAS burned down.

Had LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP ordered that half a million supporters to riot, the Capitol building would be gone and most of Congress would be dead or in the hospital.
Otay. But no. There's video.

PS Trump lost ..
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/28/jim_jordan_why_didnt_pelosi_call_the_national_guard_on_16_a_question_that_needs_to_be_answered.html#!

Jim Jordan: Why Didn't Pelosi Call The National Guard On 1/6? A Question That Needs To Be Answered
"So they should have had help. They should have had more -- more National Guard or more police there. Why didn't they?" Jordan asked. ""Why didn't -- reports have surfaced that said that, before January 6, Speaker Pelosi vetoed having the National Guard. Press reports said that. Press reports said, on January 6, that Speaker Pelosi hesitated in calling up the National Guard."

We know that legally elected President Trump called for an additional 10,000 National Guard troops.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored

YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6: In some of his first public remarks since losing the November election, former President Donald Trump told Fox News that he warned the Pentagon “days before” that it was not ready for the crowd of Trump backers who would converge on Washington Jan. 6 and recommended calling up 10,000 National Guard troops.
Trump said he told “the top person” at the Pentagon, who at the time was acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, that the crowd was going to be massive based on the fact that “everybody I'd see” would say, ‘Oh, we're going to be at the rally. We're going to be at the rally.’”

“I said, ‘Look, this rally is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.’” Trump told Fox News host Steve Hilton Sunday night. “And I said that I think you should have 10,000 — I think I gave the number — I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready.”

Why did Pelosi tell the Guard to stand down?

Jim Jordan has the answer.

My hunch is, Trace, the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys and protect us is because, what did they do all last summer? They talked about defunding the police. They raised money to bail out rioters who attacked police.
And so when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people who attack police, it's kind of tough to call up more of them to protect yourself on January 6. But they're not going to address that question. They're just going to go after President Trump.


Yes, boys and girls. Legally elected President Trump tried to send the National Guard to riot torn blue state cities last summer. The mayors and governors rejecyed that action, leading to stuff like this, perpetrated by Black Lives Matter

View attachment 68053

In fact, it was Kamala Harris who set up a fund to pay the bail for these animals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

https://alphanews.org/kamala-harris-fund/

Only the monumentally stupid can compare this harmless little romp
View attachment 68054
(where only five died, none of which were police or members of Congress)

with this.

View attachment 68055

with a minimum of 17 deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us
"Harmless romp"?

So you believe Trump, the commander in chief, suggested to his secretary of defense to have 10,000 guard troops ready...and Pelosi ordered the guard to stand down? Where the hell is she in the chain of command?

Since Trump called for the rally and then feared for the potential violence...why didn't he call it off? Why did he tell his mob to go fight like hell if he knew there weren't enough cops there?
 

reason10

Governor
"Harmless romp"?

So you believe Trump, the commander in chief, suggested to his secretary of defense to have 10,000 guard troops ready...and Pelosi ordered the guard to stand down? Where the hell is she in the chain of command?

Trump ordered the 10,000 National Guard troops based on the RIOTS of last summer in blue states. He was fearful that BLM and ANTIFA animals would come and threaten the rally. He was right. ANTIFA was involved in the dustup in the Capitol.


Since Trump called for the rally and then feared for the potential violence...why didn't he call it off? Why did he tell his mob to go fight like hell if he knew there weren't enough cops there?


The rally was a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED exercise of the First Amendment. He had every right to be there. And that HALF A MILLION TAXPAYERS had ever right to be there and protest the illegal theft of the election.

And you are not going to get away with that fuckkkkking lie.
Trump told this crowd of a half a million people

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.
The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

NO calls for a riot. Just peaceful protest.

And AGAIN, (for the feeble minded here who have a lot of trouble with simple logic) if LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP had actually told that quarter of a million people to riot, the Capitol would look like this.

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THIS IS YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE.

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It is MORONIC to compare REAL left wing carnage to this stupid schitt.

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PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
"Harmless romp"?

So you believe Trump, the commander in chief, suggested to his secretary of defense to have 10,000 guard troops ready...and Pelosi ordered the guard to stand down? Where the hell is she in the chain of command?


Trump ordered the 10,000 National Guard troops based on the RIOTS of last summer in blue states. He was fearful that BLM and ANTIFA animals would come and threaten the rally. He was right. ANTIFA was involved in the dustup in the Capitol.


Since Trump called for the rally and then feared for the potential violence...why didn't he call it off? Why did he tell his mob to go fight like hell if he knew there weren't enough cops there?

The rally was a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED exercise of the First Amendment. He had every right to be there. And that HALF A MILLION TAXPAYERS had ever right to be there and protest the illegal theft of the election.

And you are not going to get away with that fuckkkkking lie.
Trump told this crowd of a half a million people

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.
The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

NO calls for a riot. Just peaceful protest.

And AGAIN, (for the feeble minded here who have a lot of trouble with simple logic) if LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP had actually told that quarter of a million people to riot, the Capitol would look like this.

View attachment 68083

THIS IS YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE.

View attachment 68084

It is MORONIC to compare REAL left wing carnage to this stupid schitt.

View attachment 68086
Still gonna jail every last one possible....
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
"Harmless romp"?

So you believe Trump, the commander in chief, suggested to his secretary of defense to have 10,000 guard troops ready...and Pelosi ordered the guard to stand down? Where the hell is she in the chain of command?


Trump ordered the 10,000 National Guard troops based on the RIOTS of last summer in blue states. He was fearful that BLM and ANTIFA animals would come and threaten the rally. He was right. ANTIFA was involved in the dustup in the Capitol.


Since Trump called for the rally and then feared for the potential violence...why didn't he call it off? Why did he tell his mob to go fight like hell if he knew there weren't enough cops there?

The rally was a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED exercise of the First Amendment. He had every right to be there. And that HALF A MILLION TAXPAYERS had ever right to be there and protest the illegal theft of the election.

And you are not going to get away with that fuckkkkking lie.
Trump told this crowd of a half a million people

So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give.
The Democrats are hopeless, they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don’t need any of our help. We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

NO calls for a riot. Just peaceful protest.

And AGAIN, (for the feeble minded here who have a lot of trouble with simple logic) if LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP had actually told that quarter of a million people to riot, the Capitol would look like this.

View attachment 68083

THIS IS YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE.

View attachment 68084

It is MORONIC to compare REAL left wing carnage to this stupid schitt.

View attachment 68086
The vandalism, arson and violence of last summer was not encouraged by the president of the United States or any elected democrat....unlike the assault on the capitol building and violence against the police who had 140 or so cops who needed medical care.

Did Trump say this on January 6th, just minutes before the riot?

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

You are the one comparing the riots of january 6th 2021 and the summer of 2020. The riot attempting to overturn the election was prompted by the loser who presented one lie after another to the mob...

Were there more votes cast than there are registered voters in Detroit? No. Trump made that claim. In fact turnout in Detroit was 250,138 voters out of 504,714 registered voters. He lied.


That was just one of many.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The vandalism, arson and violence of last summer was not encouraged by the president of the United States or any elected democrat....unlike the assault on the capitol building and violence against the police who had 140 or so cops who needed medical care.

Did Trump say this on January 6th, just minutes before the riot?

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

You are the one comparing the riots of january 6th 2021 and the summer of 2020. The riot attempting to overturn the election was prompted by the loser who presented one lie after another to the mob...

Were there more votes cast than there are registered voters in Detroit? No. Trump made that claim. In fact turnout in Detroit was 250,138 voters out of 504,714 registered voters. He lied.


That was just one of many.
Meanwhile, it's a poverty that these municipalities aren't hunting down every last one of these arson looting scum as possible ..too. amirite?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Meanwhile, it's a poverty that these municipalities aren't hunting down every last one of these arson looting scum as possible ..too. amirite?
The four who burned the third precinct in Minneapolis were charged, found guilty and are in jail. One man who set a fire that burned a pawn shop was found guilty. Another who set a fire in a cell phone store was found guilty of arson.

You don't think police departments are trying to track the guilty down?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The four who burned the third precinct in Minneapolis were charged, found guilty and are in jail. One man who set a fire that burned a pawn shop was found guilty. Another who set a fire in a cell phone store was found guilty of arson.

You don't think police departments are trying to track the guilty down?
I think.not enough... But appreciate gthe reply
 

EatTheRich

President
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/28/jim_jordan_why_didnt_pelosi_call_the_national_guard_on_16_a_question_that_needs_to_be_answered.html#!

Jim Jordan: Why Didn't Pelosi Call The National Guard On 1/6? A Question That Needs To Be Answered
"So they should have had help. They should have had more -- more National Guard or more police there. Why didn't they?" Jordan asked. ""Why didn't -- reports have surfaced that said that, before January 6, Speaker Pelosi vetoed having the National Guard. Press reports said that. Press reports said, on January 6, that Speaker Pelosi hesitated in calling up the National Guard."

We know that legally elected President Trump called for an additional 10,000 National Guard troops.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored

YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6: In some of his first public remarks since losing the November election, former President Donald Trump told Fox News that he warned the Pentagon “days before” that it was not ready for the crowd of Trump backers who would converge on Washington Jan. 6 and recommended calling up 10,000 National Guard troops.
Trump said he told “the top person” at the Pentagon, who at the time was acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, that the crowd was going to be massive based on the fact that “everybody I'd see” would say, ‘Oh, we're going to be at the rally. We're going to be at the rally.’”

“I said, ‘Look, this rally is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.’” Trump told Fox News host Steve Hilton Sunday night. “And I said that I think you should have 10,000 — I think I gave the number — I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready.”

Why did Pelosi tell the Guard to stand down?

Jim Jordan has the answer.

My hunch is, Trace, the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys and protect us is because, what did they do all last summer? They talked about defunding the police. They raised money to bail out rioters who attacked police.
And so when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people who attack police, it's kind of tough to call up more of them to protect yourself on January 6. But they're not going to address that question. They're just going to go after President Trump.


Yes, boys and girls. Legally elected President Trump tried to send the National Guard to riot torn blue state cities last summer. The mayors and governors rejecyed that action, leading to stuff like this, perpetrated by Black Lives Matter

View attachment 68053

In fact, it was Kamala Harris who set up a fund to pay the bail for these animals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

https://alphanews.org/kamala-harris-fund/

Only the monumentally stupid can compare this harmless little romp
View attachment 68054
(where only five died, none of which were police or members of Congress)

with this.

View attachment 68055

with a minimum of 17 deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us
My guess is, they didn’t want Trump to have a handpicked NG unit standing by to assist the insurrectionists. Also, it wasn’t Pelosi’s decision to make in any way.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I think.not enough... But appreciate gthe reply
I think there is a difference in terms of evidence. The DC riot happened in daylight and a lot of people took video or pictures and then posted them, bragging about their participation. The demonstrations during the day were largely peaceful as much as we saw from our restaurant...We stayed open until dark and then either provided rides or money for Uber for our employees to go home and we closed and boarded up our doors. The people who showed up after dark were largely white kids...late teens, early 20s and were there to riot and steal. The looted a Target store by us. Someone drove a car into the front of a grocery store and ran in to steal stuff...That was miles away from where the demonstrators were and again, happened after dark.

A lot of people were taking advantage of the crowd, thinking they'd get away with crimes they wouldn't think of committing if they thought they'd get caught.

By the way...the driver of the car that drove into the grocery store was an idiot. There were cameras all over the building and parking lot...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
My guess is, they didn’t want Trump to have a handpicked NG unit standing by to assist the insurrectionists. Also, it wasn’t Pelosi’s decision to make in any way.
There are some very different accounts of any conversation related to security at the capitol.


Sund says during a conference call with several law enforcement officials at about 2:26 p.m., he asked the Pentagon to provide backup.

Senior Army official Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, director of the Army Staff, said on the call he couldn't recommend that Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy authorize deployment, Sund and others on the call told the Post. Piatt reportedly said, "I don't like the visual of the National Guard standing a police line with the Capitol in the background," the Post reported.

It would be more than three hours before any National Guard troops arrived, well after the damage at the Capitol had been done.


 
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