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Yes, Pelosi is responsible for the Jan 6 disturbance

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So I had to ask myself why the people here are continuing to bring up Jan 6. Basically, this is Joe's 2024 campaign.

The Trump side: Biden-worst inflation, skyrocketing gasoline prices, record numbers of Covid deaths, Afghanistan given back to the Taliban, armed with Billions of dollars of American military hardware, worst economy in history.

The Biden side: a fairy tale accounting of Jan 6.

And you people somehow believe Jan 6 (which was Pelosi's fault) will somehow get that man reelected?
Really? What did Biden do to cause inflation? How about the increase in the price of gas?

Did Trump sign a surrender agreement with the Taliban? Did he withdraw over 10,000 troops and leave only 2,500 when left office? Did he release over 3,000 Taliban prisoners? Did he stop supporting the Afghan army with air strikes as part of his surrender. The equipment left behind was gear we gave to the Afghan army. Are you suggesting we should have disarmed them as we left?

Why didn't Trump start to withdraw American civilians from Afghanistan when he committed to have all US troops out by May of 2021?

Defense secretary Lloyd Austin, testifying alongside McKenzie, said he agreed with McKenzie’s analysis. He added that the Doha agreement also committed the United States to ending airstrikes against the Taliban, “so the Taliban got stronger, they increased their offensive operations against the Afghan security forces, and the Afghans were losing a lot of people on a weekly basis”.

 

Spamature

President
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/28/jim_jordan_why_didnt_pelosi_call_the_national_guard_on_16_a_question_that_needs_to_be_answered.html#!

Jim Jordan: Why Didn't Pelosi Call The National Guard On 1/6? A Question That Needs To Be Answered
"So they should have had help. They should have had more -- more National Guard or more police there. Why didn't they?" Jordan asked. ""Why didn't -- reports have surfaced that said that, before January 6, Speaker Pelosi vetoed having the National Guard. Press reports said that. Press reports said, on January 6, that Speaker Pelosi hesitated in calling up the National Guard."

We know that legally elected President Trump called for an additional 10,000 National Guard troops.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored

YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6: In some of his first public remarks since losing the November election, former President Donald Trump told Fox News that he warned the Pentagon “days before” that it was not ready for the crowd of Trump backers who would converge on Washington Jan. 6 and recommended calling up 10,000 National Guard troops.
Trump said he told “the top person” at the Pentagon, who at the time was acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, that the crowd was going to be massive based on the fact that “everybody I'd see” would say, ‘Oh, we're going to be at the rally. We're going to be at the rally.’”

“I said, ‘Look, this rally is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.’” Trump told Fox News host Steve Hilton Sunday night. “And I said that I think you should have 10,000 — I think I gave the number — I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready.”

Why did Pelosi tell the Guard to stand down?

Jim Jordan has the answer.

My hunch is, Trace, the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys and protect us is because, what did they do all last summer? They talked about defunding the police. They raised money to bail out rioters who attacked police.
And so when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people who attack police, it's kind of tough to call up more of them to protect yourself on January 6. But they're not going to address that question. They're just going to go after President Trump.


Yes, boys and girls. Legally elected President Trump tried to send the National Guard to riot torn blue state cities last summer. The mayors and governors rejecyed that action, leading to stuff like this, perpetrated by Black Lives Matter

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In fact, it was Kamala Harris who set up a fund to pay the bail for these animals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

https://alphanews.org/kamala-harris-fund/

Only the monumentally stupid can compare this harmless little romp
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(where only five died, none of which were police or members of Congress)

with this.

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with a minimum of 17 deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us
Why didn't Jim Jordan call the National Guard ?
Is he not a member of congress, just like Nancy Pelosi ?

Also, if Trump knew the event was going to cause violence that was beyond the capacity of the normal security to handle.

WHY DIDN'T HE CANCEL THE RALLY/SIMMERING RIOT IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE VP AND THE CONGRESS FROM THE VIOLENCE HE WAS SURE WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ?
 
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PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
If they have not been released, how do you know they'd show anything favorable to Trump or his mob?
I say that there's plenty of unreleased video that provides even more incriminating evidence against the people that attacked the capital. See how easy that was to play that game.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I say that there's plenty of unreleased video that provides even more incriminating evidence against the people that attacked the capital. See how easy that was to play that game.
The one reason I can think of to keep remaining video unreleased is because once released the suspects may well destroy evidence, email, video, Text messages...
 

Boltlady

Mayor
True or false hundreds if not thousands of people stormed the capital?
Can.t give a definitive answer since some of the videos that are out there show some capitol police opening the gates and motioning for people to come in. While hundreds did go in, it's hard to know how many of them were actually 'storming' and how many were just there protesting in much milder ways than those involved in the 560 'protests' that had gone on in the summer. Those resulted in 30 people being killed, hundreds injured and thousands of businesses being looted and destroyed, many of those by fire.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Can.t give a definitive answer since some of the videos that are out there show some capitol police opening the gates and motioning for people to come in. While hundreds did go in, it's hard to know how many of them were actually 'storming' and how many were just there protesting in much milder ways than those involved in the 560 'protests' that had gone on in the summer. Those resulted in 30 people being killed, hundreds injured and thousands of businesses being looted and destroyed, many of those by fire.
Then produce that video I'd like to see it.

Whether they we're actually storming or doing something milder.. what business did they have entering the Capitol building uninvited, without permission or permit, and in the company of people visiting violence and threatening to kill others?

In that context I say prosecute them

As far as the events of the summer, I say prosecute them all, I say levy the same level of scrutiny as the storming of the capital is receiving, identify as many as possible and prosecute them.

That's where I call out the Democrats and there's other tree, they won't put forth the same level of effort against their own...
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Then produce that video I'd like to see it.

Whether they we're actually storming or doing something milder.. what business did they have entering the Capitol building uninvited, without permission or permit, and in the company of people visiting violence and threatening to kill others?

In that context I say prosecute them

As far as the events of the summer, I say prosecute them all, I say levy the same level of scrutiny as the storming of the capital is receiving, identify as many as possible and prosecute them.

That's where I call out the Democrats and there's other tree, they won't put forth the same level of effort against their own...
Video shows U.S. Capitol Police giving Jan. 6 protesters ...
https://www.worldtribune.com › video-shows-u-s-capitol-police-giving-jan-6-protesters-ok-to-demonstrate-inside-building
Analysis by WorldTribune Staff, May 17, 2021. A newly obtained video shows United States Capitol Police officers instructing several Jan. 6 protesters inside the Capitol about how to peacefully ...

Video of police appearing to open doors, let protesters ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com › 2021 › 01 › 09 › video-of-police-opening-doors-inviting-protesters-into-capitol-building-is-baffling-to-say-the-least-1014206
Video footage from Wednesday's riot in the U.S. Capitol shows uniformed U.S. Capitol PoliceOfficers allegedly opening the doors of the Capitol Building and then standing idly by as the pro ...

Capitol police hold door for pro-Trump protesters, video shows
https://nypost.com › 2021 › 01 › 07 › capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows
Jan 7, 2021A Capitol police officer was seen politely holding the door for pro-Trump protesters to walk out of the building after causing mayhem that forced lawmakers to barricade themselves inside.

Video: Cops Open Barricade To Let Trump Supporters In Amid ...
https://www.dailydot.com › debug › cops-trump-barricades-video
IRL. Published Jan 6, 2021 Updated Jan 7, 2021, 5:06 pm CST. A video has emerged showingcops outside the Capitol letting supporters of President Donald Trump past a barricade without pushing back ...

There are quite a few of them out there.:)
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Video shows U.S. Capitol Police giving Jan. 6 protesters ...
https://www.worldtribune.com › video-shows-u-s-capitol-police-giving-jan-6-protesters-ok-to-demonstrate-inside-building
Analysis by WorldTribune Staff, May 17, 2021. A newly obtained video shows United States Capitol Police officers instructing several Jan. 6 protesters inside the Capitol about how to peacefully ...

Video of police appearing to open doors, let protesters ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com › 2021 › 01 › 09 › video-of-police-opening-doors-inviting-protesters-into-capitol-building-is-baffling-to-say-the-least-1014206
Video footage from Wednesday's riot in the U.S. Capitol shows uniformed U.S. Capitol PoliceOfficers allegedly opening the doors of the Capitol Building and then standing idly by as the pro ...

Capitol police hold door for pro-Trump protesters, video shows
https://nypost.com › 2021 › 01 › 07 › capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows
Jan 7, 2021A Capitol police officer was seen politely holding the door for pro-Trump protesters to walk out of the building after causing mayhem that forced lawmakers to barricade themselves inside.

Video: Cops Open Barricade To Let Trump Supporters In Amid ...
https://www.dailydot.com › debug › cops-trump-barricades-video
IRL. Published Jan 6, 2021 Updated Jan 7, 2021, 5:06 pm CST. A video has emerged showingcops outside the Capitol letting supporters of President Donald Trump past a barricade without pushing back ...

There are quite a few of them out there.:)
I bet those are the cops who committed suicide or were fired.
 

BlueHeel

Council Member
Video shows U.S. Capitol Police giving Jan. 6 protesters ...
https://www.worldtribune.com › video-shows-u-s-capitol-police-giving-jan-6-protesters-ok-to-demonstrate-inside-building
Analysis by WorldTribune Staff, May 17, 2021. A newly obtained video shows United States Capitol Police officers instructing several Jan. 6 protesters inside the Capitol about how to peacefully ...

Video of police appearing to open doors, let protesters ...
https://www.bizpacreview.com › 2021 › 01 › 09 › video-of-police-opening-doors-inviting-protesters-into-capitol-building-is-baffling-to-say-the-least-1014206
Video footage from Wednesday's riot in the U.S. Capitol shows uniformed U.S. Capitol PoliceOfficers allegedly opening the doors of the Capitol Building and then standing idly by as the pro ...

Capitol police hold door for pro-Trump protesters, video shows
https://nypost.com › 2021 › 01 › 07 › capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows
Jan 7, 2021A Capitol police officer was seen politely holding the door for pro-Trump protesters to walk out of the building after causing mayhem that forced lawmakers to barricade themselves inside.

Video: Cops Open Barricade To Let Trump Supporters In Amid ...
https://www.dailydot.com › debug › cops-trump-barricades-video
IRL. Published Jan 6, 2021 Updated Jan 7, 2021, 5:06 pm CST. A video has emerged showingcops outside the Capitol letting supporters of President Donald Trump past a barricade without pushing back ...

There are quite a few of them out there.:)
In case you didn't know, several Capitol Police Officers were fired, and some arrested, for their actions in aiding the invaders that day.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
I'm just glad I don't meet any people in life as these PJ leftist
I'm actually living with one. I'm renting a room to a lady who is on disability (for mental illness), and she is a diehard liberal. She spends much of her time on her college studies. She has almost completed her work on 2 master's degrees and that's with straight A's. She's in her 60's. She's had 2 vaccine shots, 1 booster and a flu shot. She's gung- ho.

We are able to discuss a wide variety of things as long as we don't discuss politics or the covid fiasco much.;)
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I'm actually living with one. I'm renting a room to a lady who is on disability (for mental illness), and she is a diehard liberal. She spends much of her time on her college studies. She has almost completed her work on 2 master's degrees and that's with straight A's. She's in her 60's. She's had 2 vaccine shots, 1 booster and a flu shot. She's gung- ho.

We are able to discuss a wide variety of things as long as we don't discuss politics or the covid fiasco much.;)
Good Luck
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Appears he stays up all night gethering his Trump did this and Trump did that but never on what Biden does.

Inflation is reported to enter double digits in 2022 and of course it will not be Biden's fault according to PJ leftist.

 
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