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Yes, Pelosi is responsible for the Jan 6 disturbance

reason10

Governor
You hate elections because your guy lost. So you make facts up. You believe what you've been told by the pillow guy and get pissed because anyone with a brain knows he is a bag of shit and doesn't know wtf he is talking about.
I don't hate elections. Edited
I have a problem with rigged illegal elections (similar like the ones you left wing people have fantasized for three years of legally elected President Trump's glorious first administration). Remember Russia Russia Russia? For that matter, remember when you edited whined about the Bush victory over Algore in 2000.

Blame the My Pillow guy?

And you wonder why everybody says liberals are such children.
 
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reason10

Governor
The uneducated idiots are all the ones who think as you do...that Trump won and somehow the democrats in republican states managed to bypass all of the cross checks and audits to get away with it....

Lucky for you, Giuliani was able to book some free time at the Four Season (landscaping company) to tell you all about it and then the Cyber Numbnuts were able to go broke doing an audit in AZ....

You have yet to come up with a credible way to sneak millions of ballots into the system...but stay convinced that it happened.
Your system managed to sneak 50 million illegal votes in the last election. It has already been proven, so take a few ccs of shut up.
 

reason10

Governor
Funny thing...millions of illegal ballots and there are about 200 people who are being prosecuted. Ya know why? Because there were about 200 instances of election fraud and that includes not just voting, but registration.

If you want anyone to believe you you'll have to come up with evidence that is not so easily kicked to the curb. Why do you think the people pushing that bullshit are so low on the credibility scale? Trump, Giuliani, Powell, Johnson, Lindell....gimme a break.
Asked and answered.

And Trump has more credibility than any of you people. He was the greatest president of all time and the last legally elected president.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I don't hate elections. Edited
I have a problem with rigged illegal elections (similar like the ones you left wing people have fantasized for three years of legally elected President Trump's glorious first administration). Remember Russia Russia Russia? For that matter, remember when you edited whined about the Bush victory over Algore in 2000.

Blame the My Pillow guy?

And you wonder why everybody says liberals are such children.
Since you have no credible evidence of a rigged election the only conclusion I can come to is that you just hate elections that your guy loses.

Bush victory in 2000? You mean the one decided when the supreme court overruled the Florida supreme court and stopped the legal recount? The one that was decided in a state run by Bush's brother and the election run by his campaign co-chair?

Yeah, what was the problem?

There was a good reason to investigate the self proclaimed advisor to the Kremlin who was also on Trump's campaign....especially after the Russians helped WIKI to get DNC email. Did anyone actually claim any votes went to Trump as a result? Nope. Only a hard core Trump loyalist would argue there was no reason to investigate.

As far as your problem with "rigged" elections...get some evidence. So far judges in 61 lawsuits say it wasn't rigged. The Supreme Court said it wasn't rigged. Trump's AG says it wasn't rigged...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Asked and answered.

And Trump has more credibility than ANY of you people. He was the greatest president of all time and the last LEGALLY ELECTED president.

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Trump tells you Washington's troops attacked British airfields to win the war and you think he has any credibility?

His AG says no evidence of significant fraud. His director of cyber security says no evidence of anyone hacking Dominion systems.

Sydney Powell tells you Dominion systems have computers in Germany and they were seized by the US military. Trump repeats that bullshit, but the DoD says it didn't happen. Sydney then tells you that nobody should believe that what she said was factual...but Trump still spews that crap on a regular basis.

Your greatest president ever called the Georgia SoS to beg for 11,000 votes...
Your greatest president criticizes his own judicial appointments for the decisions related to his losing lawsuits...not because their decisions are wrong, but because he thinks they show a lack of loyalty to him. The true sign of a wannabe dictator.

You have no answer to any of the points I raise...instead you insist I shut up. Ain't gonna happen.
 

reason10

Governor
Trump tells you Washington's troops attacked British airfields to win the war and you think he has any credibility?

That's a lie. Obama said you could keep your doctor.

His AG says no evidence of significant fraud. His director of cyber security says no evidence of anyone hacking Dominion systems.

That's a lie and you know it.

Sydney Powell tells you Dominion systems have computers in Germany and they were seized by the US military. Trump repeats that bullshit, but the DoD says it didn't happen. Sydney then tells you that nobody should believe that what she said was factual...but Trump still spews that crap on a regular basis.

The Joe DOD.

Your greatest president ever called the Georgia SoS to beg for 11,000 votes...
Your greatest president criticizes his own judicial appointments for the decisions related to his losing lawsuits...not because their decisions are wrong, but because he thinks they show a lack of loyalty to him. The true sign of a wannabe dictator.


That is all a lie.

As far as the actual Trump record,
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
Unprecedented Economic Boom

Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy.


  • America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
  • Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
  • The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
  • Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
  • More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.
  • Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
  • The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
  • Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.

Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of all backgrounds.


  • Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a High school diploma all reached record lows.
  • Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
  • Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
  • Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
  • Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
  • The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
  • Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
  • African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.

Brought jobs, factories, and industries back to the USA.


  • Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
  • Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
  • Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.

That's a better record than the last five Democrat presidents.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Trump tells you Washington's troops attacked British airfields to win the war and you think he has any credibility?

That's a lie. Obama said you could keep your doctor.

His AG says no evidence of significant fraud. His director of cyber security says no evidence of anyone hacking Dominion systems.

That's a lie and you know it.

Sydney Powell tells you Dominion systems have computers in Germany and they were seized by the US military. Trump repeats that bullshit, but the DoD says it didn't happen. Sydney then tells you that nobody should believe that what she said was factual...but Trump still spews that crap on a regular basis.

The Joe DOD.

Your greatest president ever called the Georgia SoS to beg for 11,000 votes...
Your greatest president criticizes his own judicial appointments for the decisions related to his losing lawsuits...not because their decisions are wrong, but because he thinks they show a lack of loyalty to him. The true sign of a wannabe dictator.


That is all a lie.

As far as the actual Trump record,
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
Unprecedented Economic Boom

Before the China Virus invaded our shores, we built the world’s most prosperous economy.


  • America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
  • Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
  • The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
  • Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
  • More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.
  • Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
  • The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
  • Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.

Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of all backgrounds.


  • Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a High school diploma all reached record lows.
  • Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
  • Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
  • Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
  • Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
  • The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
  • Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
  • African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.

Brought jobs, factories, and industries back to the USA.


  • Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
  • Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
  • Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.

That's a better record than the last five Democrat presidents.
How can you stand to be wrong ALL THE F*CKING TIME?


Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

Fired Official Says Correcting Trump's Fraud Claims The 'Right Thing To Do'


Trump claimed colonial troops attacked British airports


Sydney Powell and the army raid in Germany...

She made that claim in November 2020. You say it was Joe's DoD. That would be wrong.

The rest of the claims of how wonderful Trump's economy was misses the fact that trump didn't do anything you can point to as having created that economy. His tax cuts were a temporary bump in GDP, but was largely the same as Obama's once Bush's recession was into recovery mode.

Unemployment was 4.2% in September 2017...and Trump watched as it went down to 3.7%. After jumping up to 15% it is now at 3.9%...

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GDP in q3 2017 was $19.558 T, which would be the last impacted by Obama's budget and the q4 GDP was $19.882 T...The first quarter into Trump's. Q1 2020 was $21.481t

It is now $23.202t....one year into Biden's after having dropped to $19.477t in q2
2020.

 

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reason10

Governor
How can you stand to be wrong ALL THE F*CKING TIME?


Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud

Fired Official Says Correcting Trump's Fraud Claims The 'Right Thing To Do'


Trump claimed colonial troops attacked British airports


Sydney Powell and the army raid in Germany...

She made that claim in November 2020. You say it was Joe's DoD. That would be wrong.

The rest of the claims of how wonderful Trump's economy was misses the fact that trump didn't do anything you can point to as having created that economy. His tax cuts were a temporary bump in GDP, but was largely the same as Obama's once Bush's recession was into recovery mode.

Unemployment was 4.2% in September 2017...and Trump watched as it went down to 3.7%. After jumping up to 15% it is now at 3.9%...

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GDP in q3 2017 was $19.558 T, which would be the last impacted by Obama's budget and the q4 GDP was $19.882 T...The first quarter into Trump's. Q1 2020 was $21.481t

It is now $23.202t....one year into Biden's after having dropped to $19.477t in q2
2020.

A bunch of liberal opinion sites and you somehow feel like a man?

How can you be so STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
A bunch of liberal opinion sites and you somehow feel like a man?

How can you be so STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID?
facts...the GDP or unemployment rates are not opinions.

Try coming up with something, anything to back you up...I won't hold my breath. You are denying video of Trump being an idiot..making you a felony trump lover.
 
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reason10

Governor
facts...the GDP or unemployment rates are not opinions.

Try coming up with something, anything to back you up...I won't hold my breath. You are denying video of Trump being an idiot..making you a felony trump lover.
I gave you the most reliable link in the universe. It told the truth. You responded with the far left NPR?

Trump graduated from the Wharton School of Finance, which makes Harvard and Yale look like cheap community colleges by comparison. He is the smartest president in history.

And you wonder why everyone says liberals are such felony idiots.

You voted for the dumbest most racist president in history, Joe. He has destroyed the American economy, one that was expanding when he was illegally put in office.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I gave you the most reliable link in the universe. It told the truth. You responded with the far left NPR?

Trump graduated from the Wharton School of Finance, which makes Harvard and Yale look like cheap community colleges by comparison. He is the smartest president in history.

And you wonder why everyone says liberals are such felony idiots.

You voted for the dumbest most racist president in history, Joe. He has destroyed the American economy, one that was expanding when he was illegally put in office.
I gave you information from the St. Louis Federal reserve...you think that is a liberal opinion site. The Associated Press and Reuters reported quotes, which you think are a matter of opinion...but you cannot find anywhere that disputes that.

You think NPR is a liberal opinion site...but the fact is they reported a quote. from Christopher Krebs. Feel free to search for his name...you will find that quote in lots of places...try fox. Here was their story on Krebs.

Fired election security official calls fraud claims 'nonsense'; Trump slams system as 'international joke'



And what reliable source did you provide? Trump....

As far as the actual Trump record,
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
Once again...you lose.
 

reason10

Governor
I gave you information from the St. Louis Federal reserve...you think that is a liberal opinion site. The Associated Press and Reuters reported quotes, which you think are a matter of opinion...but you cannot find anywhere that disputes that.

You think NPR is a liberal opinion site...but the fact is they reported a quote. from Christopher Krebs. Feel free to search for his name...you will find that quote in lots of places...try fox. Here was their story on Krebs.

Fired election security official calls fraud claims 'nonsense'; Trump slams system as 'international joke'



And what reliable source did you provide? Trump....

As far as the actual Trump record,
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
Once again...you lose.
Again, I provided the only true and reliable source. You didn't.
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Trump's information is factual. Yours isn't.
 
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middleview

President
Supporting Member
Again, I provided the only true and reliable source. You didn't.
Edited
Trump's information is factual. Yours isn't.
sure thing....what kind of planes do you think the Brits had in 1775?

Hey...I was driving through an area with a lot of windmills the other day...should I get checked for cancer?
 

Spamature

President
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/28/jim_jordan_why_didnt_pelosi_call_the_national_guard_on_16_a_question_that_needs_to_be_answered.html#!

Jim Jordan: Why Didn't Pelosi Call The National Guard On 1/6? A Question That Needs To Be Answered
"So they should have had help. They should have had more -- more National Guard or more police there. Why didn't they?" Jordan asked. ""Why didn't -- reports have surfaced that said that, before January 6, Speaker Pelosi vetoed having the National Guard. Press reports said that. Press reports said, on January 6, that Speaker Pelosi hesitated in calling up the National Guard."

We know that legally elected President Trump called for an additional 10,000 National Guard troops.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-says-he-told-the-pentagon-10-000-national-guard-troops-would-be-needed-jan-6-but-was-ignored

YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6: In some of his first public remarks since losing the November election, former President Donald Trump told Fox News that he warned the Pentagon “days before” that it was not ready for the crowd of Trump backers who would converge on Washington Jan. 6 and recommended calling up 10,000 National Guard troops.
Trump said he told “the top person” at the Pentagon, who at the time was acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, that the crowd was going to be massive based on the fact that “everybody I'd see” would say, ‘Oh, we're going to be at the rally. We're going to be at the rally.’”

“I said, ‘Look, this rally is going to be bigger than anyone thinks.’” Trump told Fox News host Steve Hilton Sunday night. “And I said that I think you should have 10,000 — I think I gave the number — I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, and I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready.”

Why did Pelosi tell the Guard to stand down?

Jim Jordan has the answer.

My hunch is, Trace, the reason they couldn't have more police presence here to protect those guys and protect us is because, what did they do all last summer? They talked about defunding the police. They raised money to bail out rioters who attacked police.
And so when you talk about defunding the police and supporting people who attack police, it's kind of tough to call up more of them to protect yourself on January 6. But they're not going to address that question. They're just going to go after President Trump.


Yes, boys and girls. Legally elected President Trump tried to send the National Guard to riot torn blue state cities last summer. The mayors and governors rejecyed that action, leading to stuff like this, perpetrated by Black Lives Matter

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In fact, it was Kamala Harris who set up a fund to pay the bail for these animals.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-kamala-harris-thomas-moseley

https://alphanews.org/kamala-harris-fund/

Only the monumentally stupid can compare this harmless little romp
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(where only five died, none of which were police or members of Congress)

with this.

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with a minimum of 17 deaths.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us
So that means Trump was responsible for the actions of 2020 protesters.

Trumplandia is a sick sad world indeed.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So that means Trump was responsible for the actions of 2020 protesters.

Trumplandia is a sick sad world indeed.
YES, TRUMP DID CALL FOR 10,000 GUARD TROOPS FOR JAN 6:

And the DoD ignored him. Guess he was a pretty shitty CinC, eh? According to @reason10 Pelosi out ranked him...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So you voted against Obama, but for the white guy.
This is what passes for logic at your house....

"No, I'm not a PAL of Obama's"
"So you voted for the White Guy"

In fact I wasn't "pals" with McCain or Romney either. Does that mean I didn't vote...since it seems you guys believe people only vote for their pals.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
This is what passes for logic at your house....

"No, I'm not a PAL of Obama's"
"So you voted for the White Guy"

In fact I wasn't "pals" with McCain or Romney either. Does that mean I didn't vote...since it seems you guys believe people only vote for their pals.
You lost again.

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