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You know what went away after two years?

I'm going to go ahead and assume you meant "organism," or this conversation just got really weird.
Ironically, the Fairyphile Party Should Have Been the First to Think of Immune Deficiency Instead of Contagiousness

Maybe it was a Freudian slip, because totalitarian Democrats had an orgasm over how much they could control our lives and the economy by pushing this scare story.
 
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Alzheimer's has been around throughout human history. It kills around120,000 people in the US per year, year in and year out. So, just since Ronald Reagan died, about two million other Americans have died of Alzheimer's. That's a whole lot more than the number who have died of COVID so far, even though COVID is killing at a much faster rate. So we would naturally expect to know more famous people killed by Alzheimer's than COVID.

Yet, of course, we know of a number of famous people who have died of COVID. Cloris Leachman died of COVID, so did Dawn Wells, Charley Pride, Tom Seaver, Herman Cain, Roy Horn, Phil Spector, David Prowse (Darth Vader), and countless others, including many who could easily afford the diet you imagine keeps people safe from COVID.
American Medical A$$ociation

They all died of old age. That term no longer appears on death certificates, because greedy doctors need to create more fake cases for their pet diseases in order to get more funding.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Not heard of Antoine Bechamp then?
Yes..if I recall correctly..he is credited with the creation of synthetic dyes and I believe the initial components of chemotherapeutics

His theories on granulynes or some such were rejected by scientists..
 
Oh. Ok. Then which other Antoine Bechamp

I'll give you a clue -

Antoine Bechamp 1816- 1908

Master of Pharmacy
Doctor of Science
Doctor of Medicine
Professor of Medical Chemistry and Pharmacy at Montpellier
Fellow and Professor of Physics and Toxicology — Strasbourg Higher School of Pharmacy
Professor of Chemistry at Strasbourg
Professor of Biological Chemistry and Dean of Faculty of Medicine of Lille
Chevalier of the Legion of Honour — Commander of the Rose of Brazil etc.

"These microorganisms (germs) feed upon the poisonous material which they find in the sick organism and prepare it for excretion. These tiny organisms are derived from still tinier organisms called microzyma. These microzyma are present in the tissues and blood of all living organisms where they remain normally quiescent and harmless. When the welfare of the human body is threatened by the presence of potentially harmful material, a transmutation takes place. The microzyma changes into a bacterium or virus which immediately goes to work to rid the body of this harmful material. When the bacteria or viruses have completed their task of consuming the harmful material they automatically revert to the microzyma stage".--Bechamp.

His work was plagiarized, when it suited him and twisted when it suited him, by that imposter Pasteur.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I'll give you a clue -

Antoine Bechamp 1816- 1908

Master of Pharmacy
Doctor of Science
Doctor of Medicine
Professor of Medical Chemistry and Pharmacy at Montpellier
Fellow and Professor of Physics and Toxicology — Strasbourg Higher School of Pharmacy
Professor of Chemistry at Strasbourg
Professor of Biological Chemistry and Dean of Faculty of Medicine of Lille
Chevalier of the Legion of Honour — Commander of the Rose of Brazil etc.

"These microorganisms (germs) feed upon the poisonous material which they find in the sick organism and prepare it for excretion. These tiny organisms are derived from still tinier organisms called microzyma. These microzyma are present in the tissues and blood of all living organisms where they remain normally quiescent and harmless. When the welfare of the human body is threatened by the presence of potentially harmful material, a transmutation takes place. The microzyma changes into a bacterium or virus which immediately goes to work to rid the body of this harmful material. When the bacteria or viruses have completed their task of consuming the harmful material they automatically revert to the microzyma stage".--Bechamp.

His work was plagiarized, when it suited him and twisted when it suited him, by that imposter Pasteur.
Yes. That's whom I spoke of. No. All of science rejected his notions
 
No. I am correct. I have all of scientific history and discovery behind me.
Rubbish, You have a powerful pseudo scientific/medical body plus big tec, politicians/governments, Media, the Military et al ( dictators of your Brave New World) behind you.


Bechamp discovered germs, he descovered them as a protective mechianism within all of creation but specifically now within all human cells - he found tiny organisms which he called microzymus ''Bad bacteria and viruses were simply the forms assumed by the microzymas when there was a condition of disease. In a diseased body, the microzymas became pathological bacteria and viruses. In a healthy body, microzymas formed healthy cells. When a plant or animal died, the microzymas lived on. To this day, the whole theory of microzymas has never been disproved. '' Tim O'Shea.

Pasteur stole his discovery (his plagiarism is verifiable if one reads French) but twisted Bechamp's finding that 'virus' are made within each individual to fight off disease into germs come from without the body which it, the body, needs help to fight off.

Question; which theory is a profit maker? ''Vaccines are the backbone of the whole pharmaceutical industry. If they can make these children sick at an early age - they become customer's for life.'' Dr Sheri Tenpenny D.O.

The two battled for years --- but the loudest and most ardent critics of Pasture's vaccines came from within the medical profession - until the 1940s many sat on such bodies as The National Anti-Vaccine League but honest Dr after honest Dr after honest Dr have been ostracized, struck off, persecuted - The Media will never ask them or even mention them in debate ect and so on.

''Medical science has made such tremendous progress there is hardly a healthy human left'' Aldous Huxley
 

Mina Park

Council Member
American Medical A$$ociation

They all died of old age. That term no longer appears on death certificates, because greedy doctors need to create more fake cases for their pet diseases in order to get more funding.
Thanks to society no longer dismissing deaths as vaguely caused by "old age," we've managed to give people many more years of healthy and productive life. There was a time, not so very long ago, where people were considered to have died of old age when they dropped dead in their 60's. Yet often that was caused by something that could be remedied with modern medicine, buying people decades more life. This has been a huge improvement.
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Understood. I meant more in terms of the context of the mandate. For example, should private employers be able to make COVID vaccination a condition of employment, or should government step in and tell them they're not allowed to do that? Should those who care for the elderly in assisted living facilities be required to be vaccinated, to lower the risk of them passing along the deadly disease to their charges, or should they be free to be reckless?

I'm not in favor of a blanket COVID vaccine mandate, where everybody must get vaccinated. I am, however, comfortable with requiring proof of vaccination before people enter into public settings with High risk of transmission.
 

Mina Park

Council Member
I didn't link you to the work of a lay person at all, wtf is that about?
Yes, you linked me to the work of a lay person named Eleanor McBean.

You didn't quote from her book
Yes, I did. The material inside quotation marks was copied and pasted directly from her book.

Antoine Bechamp, (the real discoverer of bacteria)
Antoni van Leeuwenhoek discovered bacteria, long before Bechamp was born.

....we are done!
Of course we are. I reacted to what you posted by diving into the details. That left you feeling badly out of your depth, so you have decided to retreat. That was expected.
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Ironically, the Fairyphile Party Should Have Been the First to Think of Immune Deficiency Instead of Contagiousness

Maybe it was a Freudian slip, because totalitarian Democrats had an orgasm over how much they could control our lives and the economy by pushing this scare story.
As you're aware, the Democratic party hasn't been particularly interested in controlling people's lives. For example, they're not the party that has pushed through draconian limits on the ability of women to end unwanted pregnancies. They weren't the party that was pretty much unanimously united against recreational drug use, or the party that was the epicenter of intermittent freak-outs about pornography, or the party where people are desperately eager to police which bathrooms trans people are able to use, or which gender people are allowed to marry. They've been much less eager to lock large portions of the population behind bars, as well.

So, as you can see, this isn't a matter of the Democrats having a particular lust for controlling lives. Instead, it's simply a matter of them being more amenable to some short-term restrictions to get us past this pandemic, so we can get back to normal.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Post Hoc, Propter Hoc

You do all the time, from the self-appointed self-interested "experts" whom the ruling class anoints to rule over the public's mind.

My proof is the fact that these plagues happened again and again before the invention of the internal-combustion engine. Second, your evidence is the deaths after the Lockdown allowed the virus to survive.

As for "novel," which is another lying term slipped in by the slick and deceptive media, the Chinese have only suffered 5,000 deaths. Obviously, they are almost totally immune to this creature. That could only have happened if the virus has been around for thousands of years, before recorded history, which goes back many millennia in China.
So which is it...are the experts self appointed or were they appointed by the ruling class? Make up your mind.

How in hell did the lockdowns "allow" the virus to survive?

Do you actually trust the Chinese numbers? Funny that you are pretty sure that the US doctors and hospitals, CDC are lying, but trust them.
 
Yes, you linked me to the work of a lay person named Eleanor McBean.



Yes, I did. The material inside quotation marks was copied and pasted directly from her book.



Antoni van Leeuwenhoek discovered bacteria, long before Bechamp was born.



Of course we are. I reacted to what you posted by diving into the details. That left you feeling badly out of your depth, so you have decided to retreat. That was expected.

Eleanor McBean has a PhD in Naturopathic Medicine -

So no she does not belong to the Great Medical Mafia - which is lucky for her because 'their KGB' cannot touch her as she outside their clutches - they cannot 'strike her off' nor persecute her 'as a witch' but they can and, do as we see with your input, discredit her ---- but the proof of the pudding is still in the eating - the freedom to read what we wish is still with us in our lands. People must judge for themselves. Her book is still an important one for those who do not trust Gov and dare to question ....

Cherry picking a few lines here and there, putting you own meaning to the 'cherries' is hardly an honest way to claim that you have quoted a person.

Antoni van Leeuwenhoek, an absolute layman! Gosh how daring of you to mention his name, He isolated bacteria - he didn't explain it. His argument was against a very different belief system ie spontanious generation ( the concept held at the time for creation = out of nothing it just happened).

Your inferiority complex is showing ....
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
Understood. I meant more in terms of the context of the mandate. For example, should private employers be able to make COVID vaccination a condition of employment, or should government step in and tell them they're not allowed to do that? Should those who care for the elderly in assisted living facilities be required to be vaccinated, to lower the risk of them passing along the deadly disease to their charges, or should they be free to be reckless?

I'm not in favor of a blanket COVID vaccine mandate, where everybody must get vaccinated. I am, however, comfortable with requiring proof of vaccination before people enter into public settings with High risk of transmission.
Either vaccines work or they don't. The worst thing that can happen is a vaccine like this one that is failing to such a degree that the vaccinated become incubators of potentially worse disease. Furthermore, this, despite the lie of it, remains an experimental gene therapy injection. The only exception for mandate I'd feel was justified because of the nature of the disease is requiring the vaccine for nursing home workers, or the use of anti-viral medication prophylactically.
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Eleanor McBean has a PhD in Naturopathic Medicine -

So no she does not belong to the Great Medical Mafia - which is lucky for her because 'their KGB' cannot touch her as she outside their clutches - they cannot 'strike her off' nor persecute her 'as a witch' but they can and, do as we see with your input, discredit her ---- but the proof of the pudding is still in the eating - the freedom to read what we wish is still with us in our lands. People must judge for themselves. Her book is still an important one for those who do not trust Gov and dare to question ....

Cherry picking a few lines here and there, putting you own meaning to the 'cherries' is hardly an honest way to claim that you have quoted a person.

Antoni van Leeuwenhoek, an absolute layman! Gosh how daring of you to mention his name, He isolated bacteria - he didn't explain it. His argument was against a very different belief system ie spontanious generation ( the concept held at the time for creation = out of nothing it just happened).

Your inferiority complex is showing ....
She is not in expert in any field related to vaccination or control of infectious disease. She's just a lay-person when it comes to that.

Anyway, it really points out how nuts her ideas were that when I quoted them verbatim, you naturally assumed they couldn't possibly be quotations from her work. That's how crazy they are: even her devotees can't believe anyone would be unhinged enough to make such a claim.

As for Van Leewenhoek, there's a reason that when you Google "discoverer of bacteria," his name pops up in big bold letters at the very top of the list.

Regarding inferiority complexes, in I'll just remind you that you just dismissed the whole of the expert community as the "medical mafia." Does that sound like a woman who is secure in her views?
 

Mina Park

Council Member
Either vaccines work or they don't. The worst thing that can happen is a vaccine like this one that is failing to such a degree that the vaccinated become incubators of potentially worse disease. Furthermore, this, despite the lie of it, remains an experimental gene therapy injection. The only exception for mandate I'd feel was justified because of the nature of the disease is requiring the vaccine for nursing home workers, or the use of anti-viral medication prophylactically.
These vaccines work. They have already saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and they have proven effective at decreasing transmission.

One simple way to look at that is by comparing vaccination rates and hospitalization rates. In the US, the highest hospitalization rate among states with over 60% vaccination is Washington, at 27 cases were 100k. There are 28 states with higher hospitalization rates, every single one of which has a lower vaccination rate. And 15 of the 18 states that are suffering the worst right now have vaccination rates below 50%. At the other end of the spectrum, the seven lowest hospitalization rates all belong to states with vaccination rates above 60%.

This isn't like antibiotics, where something less than 100% effectiveness risks breeding a superbug and could be worse than doing nothing. Even something below 100% will decrease the R0 of the disease (the average number of people infected by each infected person, and all we need to do to put this pandemic behind us is get the R0 below 1 and keep it there long enough.

Anyway, this was experimental, at one point: during the initial clinical trials, when they didn't know how safe or effective it would be. But, since then, pretty much every advanced nation has approved these vaccines, because they're safe and effective.
 

God of War

Lets go Brandon!
These vaccines work. They have already saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and they have proven effective at decreasing transmission.
They have proven effective at allowing the vaccinated to still get sick on an experimental gene therapy injection basis. In Israel the efficacy of the vaccine is waning and requiring a 2nd booster shot (3rd total shot). The experimental nature precludes health authorities from definitively being able to say 3rd, 4th, or 5th booster are or are not needed going into the future. At a population level that is a disaster.

One simple way to look at that is by comparing vaccination rates and hospitalization rates. In the US, the highest hospitalization rate among states with over 60% vaccination is Washington, at 27 cases were 100k. There are 28 states with higher hospitalization rates, every single one of which has a lower vaccination rate. And 15 of the 18 states that are suffering the worst right now have vaccination rates below 50%. At the other end of the spectrum, the seven lowest hospitalization rates all belong to states with vaccination rates above 60%.
Until the season changes and the efficacy of the "vaccine" wanes with time?

This isn't like antibiotics, where something less than 100% effectiveness risks breeding a superbug and could be worse than doing nothing.
It most definitely is. The sick vaccinated affords the virus a chance to mutate away from the vaccine and/or become more deadly for all or just the unvaxxed. I don't know how you could have said that at all.

Even something below 100% will decrease the R0 of the disease (the average number of people infected by each infected person, and all we need to do to put this pandemic behind us is get the R0 below 1 and keep it there long enough.
Psssst... antivirals.


Anyway, this was experimental, at one point: during the initial clinical trials, when they didn't know how safe or effective it would be. But, since then, pretty much every advanced nation has approved these vaccines, because they're safe and effective.
You can't short change the passage of time. Nobody knows what the vaccine may or may not do to the vaccinated 3 years down the road let alone 5 years and with increasing booster counts. No, you're kidding yourself.
 
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