Parents of slain CO girl shot ordered to pay ammo makers legal fees

[Bo-4]

You probably remember Jessica Ghawi, the aspiring sportscaster who James Holmes shot and killed. Well, her parents sued the ammo manufacturers who mail ordered him thousands of rounds.

The judge tossed it.

But losing a daughter and the lawsuit wasn't enough. Looks like they'll have to pay around a quarter million for the bullet boys' legal fees. Really ...

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/index.php/parents-lost-daughter-mass-shooter-now-owe-220000-suppliers/

Only at "Sputtering" or "Conniption" - Rachel has a few more stories sure to take you all the way to Apoplectic!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/news-gods-are-testing-your-outrage-tolerance-449081411877

 

[connieb]

You probably remember Jessica Ghawi, the aspiring sportscaster who James Holmes shot and killed. Well, her parents sued the ammo manufacturers who mail ordered him thousands of rounds.

The judge tossed it.

But losing a daughter and the lawsuit wasn't enough. Looks like they'll have to pay around a quarter million for the bullet boys' legal fees. Really ...

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/index.php/parents-lost-daughter-mass-shooter-now-owe-220000-suppliers/

Only at "Sputtering" or "Conniption" - Rachel has a few more stories sure to take you all the way to Apoplectic!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/news-gods-are-testing-your-outrage-tolerance-449081411877

There was no basis for holding them legally responsible. Frivolous lawsuits trying to make a name for the attorney's come with costs. HOPEFULLY they can make their own lawyers who should have advised the this will get tossed pay it.

 

[Lukey]

Have you offered to help them pay?

 

[Bo-4]

There was no basis for holding them legally responsible. Frivolous lawsuits trying to make a name for the attorney's come with costs. HOPEFULLY they can make their own lawyers who should have advised the this will get tossed pay it.

Wow.. you didn't even make it to "Peeved" eh? Ok, but i find this story really sad. Thanks NRA for the Colorado law that protected your overlords.

 

[Bo-4]

Have you offered to help them pay?

No Lukey, but someone will start a GoFundMe site and i'll certainly kick in.

 

[as seen on tv]

this guy (the judge) was born in 1930. he's now 85 years old.

isn't there some sort of statute of limitation on how long you can serve?

once again, the public's demand for term limits is rebuffed.

 

[Bo-4]

this guy (the judge) was born in 1930. he's now 85 years old.

isn't there some sort of statute of limitation on how long you can serve?

once again, the public's demand for term limits is rebuffed.

I missed that ASOT, thanks and WoW.. yep, 85 is long past retirement time.

 

[connieb]

Wow.. you didn't even make it to "Peeved" eh? Ok, but i find this story really sad. Thanks NRA for the Colorado law that protected your overlords.

It is a really sad case. What is really sad is that a person like James Holmes was not forcibly admitted to treatment long before he could massacre all those people including their daughter.

BUT - it doesn't make the ammo manufacturer liable. And, I am appalled and disgusted at people using our legal system to "make statements" etc. That is not the place for it. And, its an abuse of the system to be honest. And, I do not think that we should in any way encourage people to file lawsuits they have no chance of winning just to make a point. And, if making them pay the fees of those whose money the waste is teh way to do that. Fine with me. No matter how tragic the circumstance.

 

[Bo-4]

It is a really sad case. What is really sad is that a person like James Holmes was not forcibly admitted to treatment long before he could massacre all those people including their daughter.

BUT - it doesn't make the ammo manufacturer liable. And, I am appalled and disgusted at people using our legal system to "make statements" etc. That is not the place for it. And, its an abuse of the system to be honest. And, I do not think that we should in any way encourage people to file lawsuits they have no chance of winning just to make a point. And, if making them pay the fees of those whose money the waste is teh way to do that. Fine with me. No matter how tragic the circumstance.

Connie, you should read up on these sleazy mail order ammo companies who sold Holmes the goods.

While i understand your point and while the Ghawi's attorney probably should have advised them against bringing the case, mail order bullets in these kinds of quantities should be outlawed.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/special/how-the-aurora-shooter-got-his-ammo/html_3e70a8af-dc60-5d52-b7fc-98476c257d28.html

 

[connieb]

Connie, you should read up on these sleazy mail order ammo companies who sold Holmes the goods.

While i understand your point and while the Ghawi's attorney probably should have advised them against bringing the case, mail order bullets in these kinds of quantities should be outlawed.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/special/how-the-aurora-shooter-got-his-ammo/html_3e70a8af-dc60-5d52-b7fc-98476c257d28.html

Fine, but that is completely different than suing them after the fact for something that is legal. I despise judicial activisim. I despise abusing the courts in that manner. And, it doesn't matter how tragic your story is - you do not get to rewrite the law by filing frivolous claims tying up resources and using other's money to do so.

I have no love for the NRA or ammo manufacturers and don't even own a gun. But, I have a strong abhorrence to using the courts for your own purposes. And, I do not feel bad they got slapped for their over-reach. Hopefully it will make others think twice.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You probably remember Jessica Ghawi, the aspiring sportscaster who James Holmes shot and killed. Well, her parents sued the ammo manufacturers who mail ordered him thousands of rounds.

The judge tossed it.

But losing a daughter and the lawsuit wasn't enough. Looks like they'll have to pay around a quarter million for the bullet boys' legal fees. Really ...

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/index.php/parents-lost-daughter-mass-shooter-now-owe-220000-suppliers/

Only at "Sputtering" or "Conniption" - Rachel has a few more stories sure to take you all the way to Apoplectic!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/news-gods-are-testing-your-outrage-tolerance-449081411877

Hey stranger.

The real problem is the federal and state laws that immunize gun dealers and ammo dealers from any lawsuits, and that further provide that anyone daring to sue those merchants of death must pay their legal fees.

Such blanket immunity is reserved for gun and anmo dealers. Gun and ammo dealers have this nation in a stranglehold.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Connie, you should read up on these sleazy mail order ammo companies who sold Holmes the goods.

While i understand your point and while the Ghawi's attorney probably should have advised them against bringing the case, mail order bullets in these kinds of quantities should be outlawed.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/special/how-the-aurora-shooter-got-his-ammo/html_3e70a8af-dc60-5d52-b7fc-98476c257d28.html

Sheesh, don't ordinary people of good will buy 3,300 bullets? Why would that send up a red flag?

;-)

 

[Barbella]

You probably remember Jessica Ghawi, the aspiring sportscaster who James Holmes shot and killed. Well, her parents sued the ammo manufacturers who mail ordered him thousands of rounds.

The judge tossed it.

But losing a daughter and the lawsuit wasn't enough. Looks like they'll have to pay around a quarter million for the bullet boys' legal fees. Really ...

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/index.php/parents-lost-daughter-mass-shooter-now-owe-220000-suppliers/

Only at "Sputtering" or "Conniption" - Rachel has a few more stories sure to take you all the way to Apoplectic!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/news-gods-are-testing-your-outrage-tolerance-449081411877

Slumming?

That asked, I'd like to remind you that it's usually the Left who reminds people that "The Law" is "The Law", and must be strictly adhered to. In fact, the Left has never met a new law it didn't like. What happened here?

The judge followed the law.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

You probably remember Jessica Ghawi, the aspiring sportscaster who James Holmes shot and killed. Well, her parents sued the ammo manufacturers who mail ordered him thousands of rounds.

The judge tossed it.

But losing a daughter and the lawsuit wasn't enough. Looks like they'll have to pay around a quarter million for the bullet boys' legal fees. Really ...

http://blog.thomsonreuters.com/index.php/parents-lost-daughter-mass-shooter-now-owe-220000-suppliers/

Only at "Sputtering" or "Conniption" - Rachel has a few more stories sure to take you all the way to Apoplectic!

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/news-gods-are-testing-your-outrage-tolerance-449081411877

Mr. Bo,

That's what happens when you bring about frivolous lawsuits.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

No Lukey, but someone will start a GoFundMe site and i'll certainly kick in.

Mr. Lukey,

In answer to your question, that would be "no."

 

[Bo-4]

Hey stranger.

The real problem is the federal and state laws that immunize gun dealers and ammo dealers from any lawsuits, and that further provide that anyone daring to sue those merchants of death must pay their legal fees.

Such blanket immunity is reserved for gun and anmo dealers. Gun and ammo dealers have this nation in a stranglehold.

Hola Bugs. Indeed, Wayne LaPierre and his henchmen continue to pad the wallets of politicians (mostly Republicans).

 

[Bo-4]

Sheesh, don't ordinary people of good will buy 3,300 bullets? Why would that send up a red flag?

;-)

Only a prepper or murderous madman would buy 175 pounds of ammo. One look in Holmes eyes and a lot of ammo dealers probably would have refused to sell. Hell, what's to keep a 10 year old from building that kind of arsenal?

 

[Bo-4]

Mr. Lukey,

In answer to your question, that would be "no."

No Mr. Hey .. it was a "not yet".

 

[ya-ta-hey]

No Mr. Hey .. it was a "not yet".

Mr. Bo,

No, if it was "not yet" you would have responded that you were sending them a check.

 

[Bo-4]

Mr. Bo,

No, if it was "not yet" you would have responded that you were sending them a check.

Lol, some things haven't changed.