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The best reason to support and vote for Bernie

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I have an idea, libs will be crickets on this one..............do doctors slap lib female babies in the face instead of on their ass when born? Majority looks like heir parents had to tie a bone around their neck just to get the dog to play with them!
 

Bo-4

Senator
I have an idea, libs will be crickets on this one..............do doctors slap lib female babies in the face instead of on their ass when born? Majority looks like heir parents had to tie a bone around their neck just to get the dog to play with them!
Remind me ... WHO'S changing the subject? ;-)

 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Remind me ... WHO'S changing the subject? ;-)

I posted an opinion on you Bernie post and since you posted a picture of that scare crow ask a question.......wasn't any subject to change on your socialist candidate...............

BTW: I must have ben correct, look at the number of lib replies!

Hopefully the funeral I'm fixing to attend is more interesting than this.......
 

Lukey

Senator
Yeah, it would be worth putting a socialist in the White House just to do that. Oh, maybe it would be better just to elect Trump, because that would get rid of her without us having to "fundamentally transform" America into a communist country? Oh, wait, that's what you really want - you're just using DWS as the bait to fool people into going along with it!!! I guess the ends justify the means...
 

Bo-4

Senator
Yeah, it would be worth putting a socialist in the White House just to do that. Oh, maybe it would be better just to elect Trump, because that would get rid of her without us having to "fundamentally transform" America into a communist country? Oh, wait, that's what you really want - you're just using DWS as the bait to fool people into going along with it!!! I guess the ends justify the means...
A lot of very conservative folks as well as indies and mods support Bernie.

You'd like him too, but ya just can't get over that "Democratic Socialist" thing.
 

Charcat

One of the Patsy's
A lot of very conservative folks as well as indies and mods support Bernie.

You'd like him too, but ya just can't get over that "Democratic Socialist" thing.
Like is different than "support." I like Bernie, too, but I would NEVER vote for him.
 

Lukey

Senator
A lot of very conservative folks as well as indies and mods support Bernie.

You'd like him too, but ya just can't get over that "Democratic Socialist" thing.
Yes, conservative "socialists" are everywhere, man. And ef that "Democratic Socialist" thing - he is on record praising ourright communism (and took his honeymoon in the Soviet Union). He is an effing communist!

He will just keep pushing the Obamuist agenda. It has failed under Obama and Bernie will take us straight to Venezuela. And you think this is a good thing?
 

Bo-4

Senator
Yes, conservative "socialists" are everywhere, man. And ef that "Democratic Socialist" thing - he is on record praising ourright communism (and took his honeymoon in the Soviet Union). He is an effing communist!

He will just keep pushing the Obamuist agenda. It has failed under Obama and Bernie will take us straight to Venezuela. And you think this is a good thing?
Ahem .. he once praised Cuba's health care and education systems under Castro. And he praised Communist bread lines (yes it is a good thing when people have health care, access to education and don't starve).

There are major differences between socialism Commie style and Democratic Socialism. Beyond that, experts disagree as to whether Sanders even meets the definition of the latter.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/presidential-campaign/271652-what-does-sanders-mean-by-democratic-socialism

As for the honeymoon? Well, kind of sort of .. LoL!

The trip took place while Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vt., from 1981 to 1989. Toward the end of his mayoral tenure, the small city on Lake Champlain launched a sister-city program with Yaroslavl, located 160 miles northeast of Moscow.

The program, which is still operating today, has facilitated exchanges between the two cities involving "mayors, business people, firefighters, jazz musicians, youth orchestras, mural painters, high school students, medical students, nurses, librarians and the (Yaroslavl) ice-hockey team," according to its website.


http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/aug/12/george-will/george-will-reminds-readers-about-bernie-sanders-u/
 

Bo-4

Senator
DWS is a Democrat and Bern is being vindictive. This is not the time for that if there is one. Bern has taken zero responsibility for the failures of his campaign.
Not sure you could call his campaign a failure BD. But i'll grant you that at some point he needs to cool it and do his best to unify the party.

That time is fast approaching unless of course he wants Trump to be president.
 
Pssst . . Bo . . . wanna know a secret?

Wasserman Schutz is toast, no matter who wins in November.

If Trump wins, she's gone for presiding over a losing efforts (like the GOP dumped michael Steele)

If Hillary wins, she'll replace the ineffective and polarizing wasserman with one of her own people, who can "unify the party" and do exactly as Hillary instructs. One of Hillary's top campaign staff members.
 

Bo-4

Senator
Pssst . . Bo . . . wanna know a secret?

Wasserman Schutz is toast, no matter who wins in November.

If Trump wins, she's gone for presiding over a losing efforts (like the GOP dumped michael Steele)

If Hillary wins, she'll replace the ineffective and polarizing wasserman with one of her own people, who can "unify the party" and do exactly as Hillary instructs. One of Hillary's top campaign staff members.
Boy i dunno ASOT - She's been so in the tank for Hillary, Hilly may have to send in a deep sea diver for the rescue.

Not sure why she would do that. Debbie is the Hillary wizard behind the curtain!
 

Arkady

President
He'd get rid of Little Debbie Wasserman .. likely on day one. Enough with crooked "in the tank" Dem campaigns.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz_us_5740c0cee4b045cc9a713056?utm_hp_ref=politics

What makes you think it's been a crooked "in the tank" campaign? I voted for Sanders and am disappointed that he won't be the nominee, but the campaign looked fairly above-board to me.

I could see if there'd only been a few debates and forums, which might have looked like an attempt to keep anyone who didn't have name recognition at the start from competing. But there have already been nine debates and thirteen other candidate forums, none of which shut out Sanders.

It wasn't an ideal primary -- for example, ridiculously undemocratic caucuses continue to have an out-sized role, and the earliness of New Hampshire and Iowa favor candidates who are good at appealing to the (disproportionately white and rural) voters of those states. We can and should fix the process for future elections. I'd like to see open primaries in all states, with early states being more representative of the US as a whole (e.g., NY), or swing states (e.g., Ohio). But, even with there being room for improvement, it seems to have been a pretty honest and representative process.
 
J

JoeBlam

Guest
DWS is a Democrat and Bern is being vindictive. This is not the time for that if there is one. Bern has taken zero responsibility for the failures of his campaign.
Bernie keeps winning primaries by wide margins yet Hilly gets as many delegates as the old commie....I've been following Politico's primary numbers state by state and it's unreal...he gets the votes, she gets the delegates.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Bernie keeps winning primaries by wide margins yet Hilly gets as many delegates as the old commie....I've been following Politico's primary numbers state by state and it's unreal...he gets the votes, she gets the delegates.
Which states in particular are you talking about?
 

Bo-4

Senator
What makes you think it's been a crooked "in the tank" campaign? I voted for Sanders and am disappointed that he won't be the nominee, but the campaign looked fairly above-board to me.

I could see if there'd only been a few debates and forums, which might have looked like an attempt to keep anyone who didn't have name recognition at the start from competing. But there have already been nine debates and thirteen other candidate forums, none of which shut out Sanders.

It wasn't an ideal primary -- for example, ridiculously undemocratic caucuses continue to have an out-sized role, and the earliness of New Hampshire and Iowa favor candidates who are good at appealing to the (disproportionately white and rural) voters of those states. We can and should fix the process for future elections. I'd like to see open primaries in all states, with early states being more representative of the US as a whole (e.g., NY), or swing states (e.g., Ohio). But, even with there being room for improvement, it seems to have been a pretty honest and representative process.
Boy, where to start? Here are a few links that pretty well cover it. It's not just DWS - the DNC is also complicit.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-petition-hillary-clinton-favoritism-angry-fuming

http://billmoyers.com/story/democrats-cant-unite-unless-wasserman-schultz-goes/

http://usuncut.com/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-hillary-clinton/

http://observer.com/2016/03/the-countless-failings-of-the-dnc/
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
Kansas, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire Bern got over 60% of the votes...look at the delegate totals... in Michigan and Rhode Island she lost and got more delegates. All I have time to look up....go to Politico and see for yourself.

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president
Well.... let's just look at Kansas. It has 33 pledged delegates. Bern got 67.% of the vote. 33 x .677 = 22 but Bern got 23 of the pledged delegates. The delegate numbers at Politico include superdelegates but if you look at the % of the popular vote to the number of pledged delegates awarded,Bern hasn't been shorted in any state.
 
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