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Trial Balloons for a Military Coup

Arkady

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Lately I've been reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." It's a brilliantly well-written history of Nazi Germany. So far, I'm still in the early stages, but already it has filled in lots of blanks in my understanding of the era. Previously, I'd known some of the big landmarks of the early history of the party, but I didn't know or appreciate the detailed strategies that went into taking the Nazi party from very humble origins to absolute national dominance.

One of Hitler's strengths was his recognition that a successful power grab would need the enthusiastic support of at least some existing power structures, and at least the tacit acceptance of others. Without that, it would be doomed. So, he pursued the tacit acceptance of the Catholic Church (which was quite strong in Bavaria), and the active support of the military's officer corps. He knew he needed the military on his side, and eventually he got it. The failure of the Beer Hall Putsch came down to putting too much faith in the ability of a couple decorated military officers (Ludendorff and Goering) to get support from the military -- after his prison stay, he did a better job consolidating support among the military before flexing his political muscle.

In the US, as well, there's been a history of right-wing anti-democratic forces trying to harness the military to overturn governments they don't approve of. Most famous was the "Business Plot" -- a conspiracy by right-wing business powers to have the military oust FDR from office, in favor of a fascist dictatorship of some sort. Fortunately, Maj. General Smedley Butler did the patriotic thing and clued Congress into the plot and it never made it very far.

Could that kind of thing happen today in the US? I think some of the key ingredients are there, including a right-leaning tendency in the military. I think you can see trial balloons for that kind of plot occasionally coming from conservative politicians, like this:

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/14/gop...t_launched_coup_against_domestic_enemy_obama/

You can see what an early organizational effort for that kind of military treason could look like, here:

http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/2009/03/oath-keepers-declaration-of-orders-we.html

That group calls for an oath, by members of the armed forces, that they won't obey orders to invade any state that "asserts its sovereignty" and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which the state entered the union. The group carefully avoids any outright calls for treason, but it's the kind of organizational effort one would expect in the very early stages of gathering together like-minded people with military connections who could later be radicalized to form the backbone of a military coup.

On a side note, one thing that's fascinating about the rise of the Nazi party is how leniently right-wing traitors were treated, in Weimar Germany, compared to far less disloyal lefties. On the left, whistle-blowers who shared information about the military's attempts to cheat the terms of the Versailles Treaty were treated extremely harshly, yet Hitler committed high treason against the state and only got a five-year sentence, serving barely over a single year of easy time before being pardoned. He had led an actual armed insurrection against the nation, in which many lost their lives, and had been completely unrepentant at trial (using it as an opportunity to rant about his own righteousness), and yet a year later he was a free man. This reminds me a bit of today, when whistle-blowers (like Bradley Manning) have the book thrown at them, and yet high crimes against the state, including arming our enemies (the Iran Contra conspirators) and betraying our intelligence assets (the identification of Valerie Plame) don't result in a day behind bars. It just seems a whole lot safer to skirt the law to the right than to the left.
 
Ark--- another vital read for you is "Confessions Of A European Intellectual". It was written by the editor of the progressive magazine in Germany at the time you are now reading about and gives the inside story of how Hitler came into power. Hitler also won the support of the heads of the major corporations in Germany, Siemens etc. His deal and promise to them was: If you financially back me, we'll never have elections again, so no one will be hitting you up for money before election time! They went for it! Pretty crafty. He had the wealthiest men in Germany behind him and they ran all the major corporations and of course he promised---and then when he came to power---he fed them huge military contracts as Germany built its massive military machine and the economy boomed in Germany and so many celebrated the good Right Wing life. Meanwhile lefties and intellectuals were prosecuted, disappeared or forced to leave Germany.

Indeed, the Right Wing in every country share so many similarities and yes that "love of country" they profess so ardently wins them leniency for their crimes then and now.
 
Ark--- another vital read for you is "Confessions Of A European Intellectual". It was written by the editor of the progressive magazine in Germany at the time you are now reading about and gives the inside story of how Hitler came into power. Hitler also won the support of the heads of the major corporations in Germany, Siemens etc. His deal and promise to them was: If you financially back me, we'll never have elections again, so no one will be hitting you up for money before election time! They went for it! Pretty crafty. He had the wealthiest men in Germany behind him and they ran all the major corporations and of course he promised---and then when he came to power---he fed them huge military contracts as Germany built its massive military machine and the economy boomed in Germany and so many celebrated the good Right Wing life. Meanwhile lefties and intellectuals were prosecuted, disappeared or forced to leave Germany.

Indeed, the Right Wing in every country share so many similarities and yes that "love of country" they profess so ardently wins them leniency for their crimes then and now.
I'll check it out.

It really is astonishing a guy could lead an armed insurrection, in an attempt to overthrow the government, leaving scores dead, show no remorse, and yet see only a year in jail for what was traditionally regarded as a capital crime. But, then again, look at the US, where a guy organized thugs to threaten federal agents with guns, to preserve his illegal use of federal lands, and he gets away with it, while non-violent petty drug dealers can get decades in jail. Even in a country like ours, which prides itself on draconian punishment for crimes, right-wing crooks get kid-glove treatment.
 
I'll check it out.

It really is astonishing a guy could lead an armed insurrection, in an attempt to overthrow the government, leaving scores dead, show no remorse, and yet see only a year in jail for what was traditionally regarded as a capital crime. But, then again, look at the US, where a guy organized thugs to threaten federal agents with guns, to preserve his illegal use of federal lands, and he gets away with it, while non-violent petty drug dealers can get decades in jail. Even in a country like ours, which prides itself on draconian punishment for crimes, right-wing crooks get kid-glove treatment.

Yes and a GOP candidate can call out for the US military to take out President Obama and that too is not a "crime".
 
Lately I've been reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." It's a brilliantly well-written history of Nazi Germany. So far, I'm still in the early stages, but already it has filled in lots of blanks in my understanding of the era. Previously, I'd known some of the big landmarks of the early history of the party, but I didn't know or appreciate the detailed strategies that went into taking the Nazi party from very humble origins to absolute national dominance.

One of Hitler's strengths was his recognition that a successful power grab would need the enthusiastic support of at least some existing power structures, and at least the tacit acceptance of others. Without that, it would be doomed. So, he pursued the tacit acceptance of the Catholic Church (which was quite strong in Bavaria), and the active support of the military's officer corps. He knew he needed the military on his side, and eventually he got it. The failure of the Beer Hall Putsch came down to putting too much faith in the ability of a couple decorated military officers (Ludendorff and Goering) to get support from the military -- after his prison stay, he did a better job consolidating support among the military before flexing his political muscle.

In the US, as well, there's been a history of right-wing anti-democratic forces trying to harness the military to overturn governments they don't approve of. Most famous was the "Business Plot" -- a conspiracy by right-wing business powers to have the military oust FDR from office, in favor of a fascist dictatorship of some sort. Fortunately, Maj. General Smedley Butler did the patriotic thing and clued Congress into the plot and it never made it very far.

Could that kind of thing happen today in the US? I think some of the key ingredients are there, including a right-leaning tendency in the military. I think you can see trial balloons for that kind of plot occasionally coming from conservative politicians, like this:

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/14/gop...t_launched_coup_against_domestic_enemy_obama/

You can see what an early organizational effort for that kind of military treason could look like, here:

http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/2009/03/oath-keepers-declaration-of-orders-we.html

That group calls for an oath, by members of the armed forces, that they won't obey orders to invade any state that "asserts its sovereignty" and declares the national government to be in violation of the compact by which the state entered the union. The group carefully avoids any outright calls for treason, but it's the kind of organizational effort one would expect in the very early stages of gathering together like-minded people with military connections who could later be radicalized to form the backbone of a military coup.

On a side note, one thing that's fascinating about the rise of the Nazi party is how leniently right-wing traitors were treated, in Weimar Germany, compared to far less disloyal lefties. On the left, whistle-blowers who shared information about the military's attempts to cheat the terms of the Versailles Treaty were treated extremely harshly, yet Hitler committed high treason against the state and only got a five-year sentence, serving barely over a single year of easy time before being pardoned. He had led an actual armed insurrection against the nation, in which many lost their lives, and had been completely unrepentant at trial (using it as an opportunity to rant about his own righteousness), and yet a year later he was a free man. This reminds me a bit of today, when whistle-blowers (like Bradley Manning) have the book thrown at them, and yet high crimes against the state, including arming our enemies (the Iran Contra conspirators) and betraying our intelligence assets (the identification of Valerie Plame) don't result in a day behind bars. It just seems a whole lot safer to skirt the law to the right than to the left.

It is a brilliant read. Thing is, Shirer was only afforded the opportunity to write that Pulitzer Prize winner after getting black-listed. He got caught-up in the post-war, un-American brouhaha. One should also explore his other books. Berlin Diary is excellent, much shorter, and there are more.
 
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I'll check it out.

It really is astonishing a guy could lead an armed insurrection, in an attempt to overthrow the government, leaving scores dead, show no remorse, and yet see only a year in jail for what was traditionally regarded as a capital crime. But, then again, look at the US, where a guy organized thugs to threaten federal agents with guns, to preserve his illegal use of federal lands, and he gets away with it, while non-violent petty drug dealers can get decades in jail. Even in a country like ours, which prides itself on draconian punishment for crimes, right-wing crooks get kid-glove treatment.

I just hope the next time we find our people flouting our laws we make an example out of them.
 
Yes, laws like WAR CRIMES. If so Cheney and Bush would be wearing stripes instead of appearing on talk shows spewing crap that the 9/11 horror was nothing compared to what's coming next!!
 
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