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Caitlyn Jenner running for Senate?

Gee, I wonder if Mitch McConnell will let her use the ladies room?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/politics/caitlyn-jenner-senate-run/index.html
Ugh. I could see if Jenner wanted to be, say, the President's physical fitness adviser or something like that. But in light of the complete lack of any relevant experience, it's disgustingly presumptuous to run for such high office. Start out with a state legislative position or some sort of staffer position and get some experience. It would be different if Jenner lacked actual public office experience, but had spent years as a policy wonk, dealing with a large array of important issues. But Jenner's experience mostly comes down to time as a D-list celebrity, first as a current and former athlete, then as a reality TV star.

In the past we could have written such nonsense off as nothing but a publicity stunt by a fading trash TV personality who had no intention of actually winning. But with Trump, we've learned the problem with such stunts.

If we have to have radically inexperienced people running for high office, at least let it be Stephen Colbert types, who have spent many years engaging thoughtfully with a wide range of issues, not brainless personalities who are mostly just famous for being famous.
 
Ugh. I could see if Jenner wanted to be, say, the President's physical fitness adviser or something like that. But in light of the complete lack of any relevant experience, it's disgustingly presumptuous to run for such high office. Start out with a state legislative position or some sort of staffer position and get some experience. It would be different if Jenner lacked actual public office experience, but had spent years as a policy wonk, dealing with a large array of important issues. But Jenner's experience mostly comes down to time as a D-list celebrity, first as a current and former athlete, then as a reality TV star.

In the past we could have written such nonsense off as nothing but a publicity stunt by a fading trash TV personality who had no intention of actually winning. But with Trump, we've learned the problem with such stunts.

If we have to have radically inexperienced people running for high office, at least let it be Stephen Colbert types, who have spent many years engaging thoughtfully with a wide range of issues, not brainless personalities who are mostly just famous for being famous.

I almost hope she wins just to see her waltzing into the Senate with her high heels. The expressions on the faces of the GOP's old bulls in the Senate would be priceless.

Almost.

;-)
 
Ugh. I could see if Jenner wanted to be, say, the President's physical fitness adviser or something like that. But in light of the complete lack of any relevant experience, it's disgustingly presumptuous to run for such high office. Start out with a state legislative position or some sort of staffer position and get some experience. It would be different if Jenner lacked actual public office experience, but had spent years as a policy wonk, dealing with a large array of important issues. But Jenner's experience mostly comes down to time as a D-list celebrity, first as a current and former athlete, then as a reality TV star.

In the past we could have written such nonsense off as nothing but a publicity stunt by a fading trash TV personality who had no intention of actually winning. But with Trump, we've learned the problem with such stunts.

If we have to have radically inexperienced people running for high office, at least let it be Stephen Colbert types, who have spent many years engaging thoughtfully with a wide range of issues, not brainless personalities who are mostly just famous for being famous.

You play the pronoun game pretty well. Don't want to offend anyone sitting next to you at DNC HQ, huh?
 
You play the pronoun game pretty well. Don't want to offend anyone sitting next to you at DNC HQ, huh?
As you're well aware, I don't work for the DNC. If offending someone at the DNC were an issue, I wouldn't post the many things I've posted critical of major Democrats, nor the handful of things I've posted supporting the Republicans. I post what I believe.
 
As you're well aware, I don't work for the DNC. If offending someone at the DNC were an issue, I wouldn't post the many things I've posted critical of major Democrats, nor the handful of things I've posted supporting the Republicans. I post what I believe.

So why the pronoun game?
 
Ugh. I could see if Jenner wanted to be, say, the President's physical fitness adviser or something like that. But in light of the complete lack of any relevant experience, it's disgustingly presumptuous to run for such high office. Start out with a state legislative position or some sort of staffer position and get some experience. It would be different if Jenner lacked actual public office experience, but had spent years as a policy wonk, dealing with a large array of important issues. But Jenner's experience mostly comes down to time as a D-list celebrity, first as a current and former athlete, then as a reality TV star.

In the past we could have written such nonsense off as nothing but a publicity stunt by a fading trash TV personality who had no intention of actually winning. But with Trump, we've learned the problem with such stunts.

If we have to have radically inexperienced people running for high office, at least let it be Stephen Colbert types, who have spent many years engaging thoughtfully with a wide range of issues, not brainless personalities who are mostly just famous for being famous.
He would be no worse than Maxine Waters.

Plus. Sonny Bono did it. Sonny Bono...:eek:
 
I see no adults babbling about some "pronoun game." I see you trolling about it.

Granted, though, you may be an adult troll.

;-)
I noticed Ark's deliberate avoidance of having to use a pronoun too. Difference is, I get it. While I don't have any problem with using (and deliberately do use) the pronoun of the subject's choice, I know that some people are uncomfortable with that. Some are deliberately insulting by insisting on using a pronoun someone doesn't want. @Arkady chose to not be insulting, but isn't [yet] comfortable with going whole hog. That's a perfectly acceptable position, IMO.
 
I noticed Ark's deliberate avoidance of having to use a pronoun too. Difference is, I get it. While I don't have any problem with using (and deliberately do use) the pronoun of the subject's choice, I know that some people are uncomfortable with that. Some are deliberately insulting by insisting on using a pronoun someone doesn't want. @Arkady chose to not be insulting, but isn't [yet] comfortable with going whole hog. That's a perfectly acceptable position, IMO.

I got it just fine, which is why I raised the issue. Watching @Arkady run from it was enjoyable, too. I just didn't have the patience to talk all the way down to @Bugsy McGurk, who is clearly in the dark. Kudos to you for going there.
 
I got it just fine, which is why I raised the issue. Watching @Arkady run from it was enjoyable, too. I just didn't have the patience to talk all the way down to @Bugsy McGurk, who is clearly in the dark. Kudos to you for going there.
@Arkady has been up front about his views on transgender and I don't see his avoidance of pronouns as an issue at all. I'm surprised anyone does. Careful avoidance is respectful while one is still figuring things out. Deliberate use of the pronoun not of a person's choosing is disrespectful and unnecessary.
 
@Arkady has been up front about his views on transgender and I don't see his avoidance of pronouns as an issue at all. I'm surprised anyone does. Careful avoidance is respectful while one is still figuring things out. Deliberate use of the pronoun not of a person's choosing is disrespectful and unnecessary.

I heard you the first time, thanks.
 
Ugh. I could see if Jenner wanted to be, say, the President's physical fitness adviser or something like that. But in light of the complete lack of any relevant experience, it's disgustingly presumptuous to run for such high office. Start out with a state legislative position or some sort of staffer position and get some experience. It would be different if Jenner lacked actual public office experience, but had spent years as a policy wonk, dealing with a large array of important issues. But Jenner's experience mostly comes down to time as a D-list celebrity, first as a current and former athlete, then as a reality TV star.

In the past we could have written such nonsense off as nothing but a publicity stunt by a fading trash TV personality who had no intention of actually winning. But with Trump, we've learned the problem with such stunts.

If we have to have radically inexperienced people running for high office, at least let it be Stephen Colbert types, who have spent many years engaging thoughtfully with a wide range of issues, not brainless personalities who are mostly just famous for being famous.
At the time I thought the movie Idiocracy was pretty dumb, but it actually turned it out fairly prescient. We already have a president with professional wrestling on his resume. Next stop is watering our plants with gatorade because of electrolytes.
 
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