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"What Did The President Know, And When Did He Know It"

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He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)
 
The Secret State no so secret anymore and now we know who their leader is..
 
He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)
So, Comey closes the case in July and Obama asked what they are doing in Sept ? And somehow this is some kind of proof that he interfered in the case ?

Yet you are ignoring that Republican committees, including this one, are coordinating with the White House and, leaking information from their closed door hearings, to, people who may have to testify to them, and/or be interviewed by Mueller's team.

But your story does raise some good questions. Why did the FBI wait until 10 days before the election to spring a surprise that could have been cleared up long before the election and, by doing so, would not have been made public ? Also, why would they say anything about Wiener ? Since he was not part of the Clinton campaign and his illicit behavior, unlike Trump's and the porn star, had no bearing on any future administration ?
 
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He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)

Only Comey and Trump know what they discussed or didn’t discuss. Your Fox Noise hatchet job doesn’t say. They dupe their gullible droids with such faux journalism.
 
"The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing."

In Sept, 2016, Obama wanted to know everything the FBI was doing.....about the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
 
Only Comey and Trump know what they discussed or didn’t discuss. Your Fox Noise hatchet job doesn’t say. They dupe their gullible droids with such faux journalism.

They talked about their grandkids and Golf

no wait

that was Slick and Lynch on the tarmac
 
"The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing."

In Sept, 2016, Obama wanted to know everything the FBI was doing.....about the alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Why, his closet is too small.......
 
So, Comey closes the case in July and Obama asked what they are doing in Sept ? And somehow this is some kind of proof that he interfered in the case ?

Yet you are ignoring that Republican committees, including this one, are coordinating with the White House and, leaking information from their closed door hearings, to, people who may have to testify to them, and/or be interviewed by Mueller's team.

But your story does raise some good questions. Why did the FBI wait until 10 days before the election to spring a surprise that could have been cleared up long before the election and, by doing so, would not have been made public ? Also, why would they say anything about Wiener ? Since he was not part of the Clinton campaign and his illicit behavior, unlike Trump's and the porn star, had no bearing on any future administration ?


It's pretty simple:

The President goes on television to tell the nation, emphatically, that he is not involved in the investigation. That is a fact, and not in dispute.

The emails paint a different story, that of a president who wants to know exactly how the investigation is progressing, in detail. That is also a fact, and not in dispute.

Those are the pertinent facts contained in the top post. I can understand your desire to divert attention away from those salient points, but it will be to no avail. The facts, ever-stubborn, remain.
 
It's pretty simple:

The President goes on television to tell the nation, emphatically, that he is not involved in the investigation. That is a fact, and not in dispute.

The emails paint a different story, that of a president who wants to know exactly how the investigation is progressing, in detail. That is also a fact, and not in dispute.

Those are the pertinent facts contained in the top post. I can understand your desire to divert attention away from those salient points, but it will be to no avail. The facts, ever-stubborn, remain.

Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump


NEW FBI TEXTS ARE BOMBSHELLS!

11:10 AM - Feb 7, 2018

Oops, you've been conned again.

Right-wing media embarrassed again after latest Page-Strzok message conspiracy theory blows up in their faces

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/ri...strzok-message-conspiracy-theory-blows-faces/
 
He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)

Hello? Obama and other government officials spoke publicly about the counter-intelligence investigation into the Kremlin’s interference in our election. He obviously did not deny knowledge of it, nor should he have avoided knowledge of it.

The only mistake Obama made was not telling Americans about it sooner. The delay was caused by Mitch McConnell’s refusal to agree to a bipartisan announcement of the Kremlin’s election meddling.
 
It's pretty simple:

The President goes on television to tell the nation, emphatically, that he is not involved in the investigation. That is a fact, and not in dispute.

The emails paint a different story, that of a president who wants to know exactly how the investigation is progressing, in detail. That is also a fact, and not in dispute.

Those are the pertinent facts contained in the top post. I can understand your desire to divert attention away from those salient points, but it will be to no avail. The facts, ever-stubborn, remain.

You should know better. Democrats and bed wetting Obama sycophants (sorry I repeated myself:rolleyes:) don't like Facts that rival their narrative.

The Russians helped Trump steal the election, why else would people NOT do what their betters told them to do..............:eek:

Anything that does not agree with that statement is a distraction, hatchet job and or fake news..........
 
He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)
You're one of three who have copied-and-pasted this exact piece here. People wonder how I can comment on Fox News when I don't actually watch them or go to their web page, but if you come to Politicaljack, that's not actually necessary. Whatever thoughts the Fox News editorial crew have will immediately become the exact thoughts of the conservative PJ posters.
 
You're one of three who have copied-and-pasted this exact piece here. People wonder how I can comment on Fox News when I don't actually watch them or go to their web page, but if you come to Politicaljack, that's not actually necessary. Whatever thoughts the Fox News editorial crew have will immediately become the exact thoughts of the conservative PJ posters.

twice you've posted same LIE
 
He wanted updates so that he could stay out of it, er, something:

Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

The message, from Page to Strzok, was among thousands of texts between the lovers reviewed by Fox News. The pair both worked at one point for Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Page wrote to Strzok on Sept. 2, 2016, about prepping Comey because "potus wants to know everything we're doing." According to a newly released Senate report, this text raises questions about Obama's personal involvement in the Clinton email investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html



Flashback to 2016:

But in an April 2016 interview on Fox News Sunday, then-President Obama said he "guaranteed" he was staying out of the FBI probe.

Here's an excerpt:

OBAMA: “I can guarantee. I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated. I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it. I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”
WALLACE: “Even if she ends up as the Democratic nominee?”
OBAMA: “How many times do I have to say it, Chris? Guaranteed.”

https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-obama-insists-he-doesnt-get-involved-fbi-investiga



Illustrating once again the disconnect between what is said, and what the truth is.........:>)


Maybe they can have Obama and Trump's obstruction case at the same time...
 
Maybe they can have Obama and Trump's obstruction case at the same time...
I know your self-image requires you to assert equivalence between the parties regardless of the facts. But, just for giggles, let's take a look at each situation and see if they're genuinely similar, in terms of evidence of obstruction:

(1) An FBI agent indicated that Obama wanted to know everything they were doing.... in regards to something. There's no hint about context in the text.... whether Obama was asking for a general update about FBI work, as part of the ordinary process of managing an executive bureau, or whether he was digging for information about a particular investigation.... and, if so, which one. However, reports say he was looking for an update into Russian election meddling.

(2) The director of the FBI says that Trump pulled him aside and pressured him to stop investigating a Trump crony (who Trump has admitted he knew, at the time, was guilty of a federal crime). After the FBI director refused to back off the crook, Trump summarily fired him. Then Trump admitted he'd done so because of "the Russia thing."

Do those really look similar to you? In the first case, it seems Obama was looking for the FBI to keep him informed about a matter of vital national interest, regarding hostile moves from an adversarial power. In the second case, it looks like Trump was looking to end an investigation into one of his criminal cronies, and perhaps trying to halt the inquiry before it reached any higher. To me, they look very different. One is ordinary-course executive management of the FBI. The other is clear obstruction of justice. But, my self-image is wedded to the pursuit of the truth, rather than the pursuit of equivalence.
 
You're one of three who have copied-and-pasted this exact piece here. People wonder how I can comment on Fox News when I don't actually watch them or go to their web page, but if you come to Politicaljack, that's not actually necessary. Whatever thoughts the Fox News editorial crew have will immediately become the exact thoughts of the conservative PJ posters.

Not to mention the subject of Trump’s tweets.

;-)
 
I know your self-image requires you to assert equivalence between the parties regardless of the facts. But, just for giggles, let's take a look at each situation and see if they're genuinely similar, in terms of evidence of obstruction:

(1) An FBI agent indicated that Obama wanted to know everything they were doing.... in regards to something. There's no hint about context in the text.... whether Obama was asking for a general update about FBI work, as part of the ordinary process of managing an executive bureau, or whether he was digging for information about a particular investigation.... and, if so, which one. However, reports say he was looking for an update into Russian election meddling.

(2) The director of the FBI says that Trump pulled him aside and pressured him to stop investigating a Trump crony (who Trump has admitted he knew, at the time, was guilty of a federal crime). After the FBI director refused to back off the crook, Trump summarily fired him. Then Trump admitted he'd done so because of "the Russia thing."

Do those really look similar to you? In the first case, it seems Obama was looking for the FBI to keep him informed about a matter of vital national interest, regarding hostile moves from an adversarial power. In the second case, it looks like Trump was looking to end an investigation into one of his criminal cronies, and perhaps trying to halt the inquiry before it reached any higher. To me, they look very different. One is ordinary-course executive management of the FBI. The other is clear obstruction of justice. But, my self-image is wedded to the pursuit of the truth, rather than the pursuit of equivalence.

Correct, if you are on the left then Trumps is much worse and if you are on the right then Obamas is much worse.

When in fact Obama was most likely just doing his job and Trump was just being Trump thinking he could convince someone of doing something for him.

Two more nothingburgers.
 
It's pretty simple:

The President goes on television to tell the nation, emphatically, that he is not involved in the investigation. That is a fact, and not in dispute.

The emails paint a different story, that of a president who wants to know exactly how the investigation is progressing, in detail. That is also a fact, and not in dispute.

Those are the pertinent facts contained in the top post. I can understand your desire to divert attention away from those salient points, but it will be to no avail. The facts, ever-stubborn, remain.

Except Comey closed that case in July and did do the Hillary frame up until October when he reopened it. So the emails appear not to have been about Hillary, but about the Trump Russia investigation. The truth is Obama could have let that cat out of the bag before the election like Comey did about the duplicate emails which they had already seen, but he didn't.

So if anything the powers that be were helping Trump and Obama did not involve himself in the Clinton investigation.
 
Except Comey closed that case in July and did do the Hillary frame up until October when he reopened it. So the emails appear not to have been about Hillary, but about the Trump Russia investigation. The truth is Obama could have let that cat out of the bag before the election like Comey did about the duplicate emails which they had already seen, but he didn't.

So if anything the powers that be were helping Trump and Obama did not involve himself in the Clinton investigation.

Looking back, the FBI’s bias against Hillary was shocking. They blabbed twice about the inane Hillary email investigation (once 10 days before the election) while remaining completely mum about their very serious investigation into the Team Trump/Kremlin investigation. That tilt toward Trump made Trump president, and yet Trump and his sycophants endlessly whine about the FBI. Amazing stuff.
 
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