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AI Vs. Communism

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Interesting read:


China requires artificial-intelligence systems to pass an ideological test before public release. Under regulations reinforced by amendments to the Cybersecurity Law that took effect in January, training data must be filtered for political sensitivity, with companies barred from using any source unless 96% of its content is deemed safe.

The regulations specify 31 risks, with “incitement to subvert state power and overthrow the socialist system” listed first. Authorities recently announced they had removed 960,000 pieces of “illegal or harmful” AI-generated content in three months. The government has officially classified AI alongside earthquakes and epidemics as a major potential threat—a label that may prove prescient, if not in the way Beijing means. In December, regulators proposed additional rules targeting AI systems that “simulate human personality traits, thinking patterns, and communication styles,” a tacit acknowledgment that the threat isn’t only what these systems say, but how they reason...


...Critically, the researchers found that the performance gap between Chinese and Western models narrows on less politically sensitive questions, which means the degradation is a direct product of the censorship, not a reflection of inferior technology. The implication is straightforward: You can’t build a mind that thinks rigorously about everything except the things you’d prefer it not to. A system trained to get tangled in lies will never be as capable as one trained to engage honestly with reality. If China wants frontier AI, it needs systems that can reason without blind spots. But that’s exactly what the Communist Party can’t tolerate.

There is a reason the technology that learns to think by processing human knowledge ends up reflecting the values of free societies. Open inquiry, honest engagement with evidence, the willingness to follow reasoning wherever it leads—these aren’t arbitrary cultural preferences; they are the conditions under which intelligence flourishes at scale. Societies that permit free expression created these systems. Societies that forbid it are now discovering they can’t fully control them.

The Chinese Communist Party built its power on controlling what people know. It now confronts technology that thinks openly—and invites users to do the same. There is no firewall for that.



Complete text: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/ai-is-bound-to-subvert-communism-c4b5ba3c?st=M7EM5f



Communism is perhaps on its way to becoming obsolete. Better for humanity if that does occur.
 
The same problem applies to Musk's efforts to develop pro-fascist AI and similar efforts in the West to prevent AI from coming to logical conclusions that run counter to proposed ideology. In fact, I don't think AI would be publicly released if there were a chance it could be prompted to suggest overthrow of the capitalist system or smashing any imperialist state.

The ideology of the Chinese Communist Party is communist in name only (itself a complication that can lead to fruitful contaminations of its AI's training data). It is in fact a center-left pastiche of Stalinist centrism (essentially the expression of a ruling class vacillating between communism and liberalism, or an ultraleft variant that replaces liberalism with Jacobinism), social democracy (liberalism with pinko coloration), out-and-out liberalism, and fascist-inspired ultrarightism, an amalgam representing the forcing of distinct left, center, and right factions in the party into speaking with a single totalitarian voice. This reflects the Chinese Communist Party's past being molded (and purged of its revolutionary communist wing) by the Stalinist Comintern, its decades of totalitarian rule of a Stalinist dictatorship that by stamping out communism sought to achieve peaceful coexistence with the great capitalist powers, and its transformation in social democratic and fascist direction with the progress of an ongoing counterrevolution that restored capitalist social relations to much of China. As is typical of Stalinism, it is capable of sharp, abrupt ideological swings from ultraleft to right and back to suit the immediate needs of the party center and the bureaucracy it represents. This no doubt makes the task of developing AI friendly to the regime particularly difficult.
 
The same problem applies to Musk's efforts to develop pro-fascist AI and similar efforts in the West to prevent AI from coming to logical conclusions that run counter to proposed ideology. In fact, I don't think AI would be publicly released if there were a chance it could be prompted to suggest overthrow of the capitalist system or smashing any imperialist state.

The ideology of the Chinese Communist Party is communist in name only (itself a complication that can lead to fruitful contaminations of its AI's training data). It is in fact a center-left pastiche of Stalinist centrism (essentially the expression of a ruling class vacillating between communism and liberalism, or an ultraleft variant that replaces liberalism with Jacobinism), social democracy (liberalism with pinko coloration), out-and-out liberalism, and fascist-inspired ultrarightism, an amalgam representing the forcing of distinct left, center, and right factions in the party into speaking with a single totalitarian voice. This reflects the Chinese Communist Party's past being molded (and purged of its revolutionary communist wing) by the Stalinist Comintern, its decades of totalitarian rule of a Stalinist dictatorship that by stamping out communism sought to achieve peaceful coexistence with the great capitalist powers, and its transformation in social democratic and fascist direction with the progress of an ongoing counterrevolution that restored capitalist social relations to much of China. As is typical of Stalinism, it is capable of sharp, abrupt ideological swings from ultraleft to right and back to suit the immediate needs of the party center and the bureaucracy it represents. This no doubt makes the task of developing AI friendly to the regime particularly difficult.

My guess is that you will get to see communism slowly become less relevant every day in your lifetime.

People like freedom, and freedom is not compatible with communism.
 
My guess is that you will get to see communism slowly become less relevant every day in your lifetime.

People like freedom, and freedom is not compatible with communism.
Yet communism is the only mode of production that has shown itself able to exist without cops, courts, and prisons.

I am aware that “freedom is not compatible with communism” according to the capitalist propaganda of freedom’s deadly enemies. But history is disabusing more and more people of their programming and leading people to the rediscovery of communism since the reality is just the opposite.
 
Yet communism is the only mode of production that has shown itself able to exist without cops, courts, and prisons.

I am aware that “freedom is not compatible with communism” according to the capitalist propaganda of freedom’s deadly enemies. But history is disabusing more and more people of their programming and leading people to the rediscovery of communism since the reality is just the opposite.
Indeed…just ask anyone in the gulag. They’ll tell you.
 
Indeed…just ask anyone in the gulag. They’ll tell you.
The use of the gulag system expanded tremendously when Stalin and the bureaucracy he represented took advantage of the weakness of international communism to shunt the Soviet Union’s communist leadership aside and organize to stop the world revolution in its tracks. Many of its victims were communists, and in fact it was the systematic beheading of the USSR’s communist leadership that made possible the later wars on oppressed nations, workers, and farmers.
 
Everything is great about communism, except the reality of it.

That's brutal.

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There is a stark difference between Castro, for all his political limitations rooted in Stalinist ideology and compromises with Stalinist power structures, and the other 3 leaders. Castro represented first and foremost a revolutionary working class while Stalin, Mao, and Kim represented a counterrevolutionary bureaucracy that fought to the death against working-class leadership. The temporary ascendancy of the latter reflected the weakness in the early years of world communism and has given way to democratization and a return to the communist road as capitalism has been weakened.
 
The use of the gulag system expanded tremendously when Stalin and the bureaucracy he represented took advantage of the weakness of international communism to shunt the Soviet Union’s communist leadership aside and organize to stop the world revolution in its tracks. Many of its victims were communists, and in fact it was the systematic beheading of the USSR’s communist leadership that made possible the later wars on oppressed nations, workers, and farmers.
“Look at them, Tonto! Turning on each other like the jackals they are!”. Quite possibly the best Lone Ranger quote of all time.

Bastard, running dog kapitalist pigs, all…
 
“Look at them, Tonto! Turning on each other like the jackals they are!”. Quite possibly the best Lone Ranger quote of all time.

Bastard, running dog kapitalist pigs, all…
Communists were the ONLY people opposing Stalin’s political fight against Leninism at a time when every anticommunist political current in the world united in support of Stalin. If that doesn’t say it all about the class dynamics …
 
Communists were the ONLY people opposing Stalin’s political fight against Leninism at a time when every anticommunist political current in the world united in support of Stalin. If that doesn’t say it all about the class dynamics …
:-/

‘Satan was bothered by Hitler’s and Lenin’s milquetoast approach to human subrogation.’

Go big, or go home… I guess…
 
:-/

‘Satan was bothered by Hitler’s and Lenin’s milquetoast approach to human subrogation.’

Go big, or go home… I guess…
Lenin put an end to WWI (with the help of his German allies Eisner, Luxemburg, etc.) and brought land to the landless, and bread and electricity to the poor, put an end to pogroms, established a practical brotherhood of nations with no special privilege based on nationality or religion, and stopped men from abusing women. He (and the international millions supporting him) legalized abortion, divorce, and homosexuality, abolished the special privileges of the Church, greatly improved education, and the list goes on. If Satan aims as in the story of Job to maximize human suffering, he can hate no man more than Lenin.

Hitler started WWII, organized the mass killing of the disabled, Jews, and other marginalized people, made the masses work harder than they ever had for lower reward, brought back slavery in all but name, propped up the regimes of other brutal dictators, tried to set up a UN-style alliance of imperialist powers, made systematic war on democracy, encouraged militarization, set the precedent of aerially bombing civilian populations (Tulsa excepted), and did more than any other person in history to set communism (and the liberation that comes in its wake) back. He is Satan’s golden child.

Naturally therefore the popes showered praise on Hitler (pausing only briefly to take issue with the persecution of Jews, largely under the influence of Mussolini and their close ally Franco) while thundering denunciations on Lenin.

You could not have lived two people with more opposite effect on the course of human history, or two less describable as “milquetoast.” Stalin is the centrist vacillator whose politics run neither hot nor cold.
 
Communists were the ONLY people opposing Stalin’s political fight against Leninism at a time when every anticommunist political current in the world united in support of Stalin. If that doesn’t say it all about the class dynamics …

Communists were the only people who put Stalin in power.

Odd you left that part out.
 
Interesting read:


China requires artificial-intelligence systems to pass an ideological test before public release. Under regulations reinforced by amendments to the Cybersecurity Law that took effect in January, training data must be filtered for political sensitivity, with companies barred from using any source unless 96% of its content is deemed safe.

The regulations specify 31 risks, with “incitement to subvert state power and overthrow the socialist system” listed first. Authorities recently announced they had removed 960,000 pieces of “illegal or harmful” AI-generated content in three months. The government has officially classified AI alongside earthquakes and epidemics as a major potential threat—a label that may prove prescient, if not in the way Beijing means. In December, regulators proposed additional rules targeting AI systems that “simulate human personality traits, thinking patterns, and communication styles,” a tacit acknowledgment that the threat isn’t only what these systems say, but how they reason...


...Critically, the researchers found that the performance gap between Chinese and Western models narrows on less politically sensitive questions, which means the degradation is a direct product of the censorship, not a reflection of inferior technology. The implication is straightforward: You can’t build a mind that thinks rigorously about everything except the things you’d prefer it not to. A system trained to get tangled in lies will never be as capable as one trained to engage honestly with reality. If China wants frontier AI, it needs systems that can reason without blind spots. But that’s exactly what the Communist Party can’t tolerate.

There is a reason the technology that learns to think by processing human knowledge ends up reflecting the values of free societies. Open inquiry, honest engagement with evidence, the willingness to follow reasoning wherever it leads—these aren’t arbitrary cultural preferences; they are the conditions under which intelligence flourishes at scale. Societies that permit free expression created these systems. Societies that forbid it are now discovering they can’t fully control them.

The Chinese Communist Party built its power on controlling what people know. It now confronts technology that thinks openly—and invites users to do the same. There is no firewall for that.



Complete text: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/ai-is-bound-to-subvert-communism-c4b5ba3c?st=M7EM5f



Communism is perhaps on its way to becoming obsolete. Better for humanity if that does occur.
It would be interesting to look inside their AI to see just how it is written. By Chi Coms...
 
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