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Queen Titania
Senator
Boltlady
Governor
As horrendous as that fire was I can't imagine how horrible it would have been to be there. When I was a young woman I was about 50 feet away from another young woman who had caught on fire all over her arms, hair and face. As she was being taken away I could see the skin just hanging in black strips from her arms. That was over 50 years ago, I've never forgotten it and it was only one poor soul. That was so many including children screaming for help that couldn't get to them. Awful.
Our people probably wouldn't have noticed that the building was approx the same height as bldg #7 that collapsed on our 9/11. The building there (in London) was fully engulfed for many hours and yet it didn't collapse. Our building had a much smaller fire and managed to collapse into it's own footprint in less than 12 seconds. We're not supposed to notice things like that.
Queen Titania
Senator
My daughter lives just down the road, everyone there is in shock, it really is a close knit community - which they are 'regenerating', meaning they are knocking it down to build luxury flats for foreign investors -------- there was a kid talking this morning saying he did not rule out this having been done on purpose because the land is worth so much and you can't blame him for thinking so --- it looked as though someone had poured petrol over it, the way it went up like a match, no one on the top floors could have survived - it has been admitted that the cladding on the outside of the building was of inferior quality and not as flame proof as it should legally be ------------ The victims in hospital are all suffering from smoke inhalation, no burn victims - such an inferno none survived, they jumped or they are still in there.
The fire is still raging - it traveled from the outside in so the center is still on fire -
Children, oh horror
One woman threw har baby out, it was caught by a man underneath but no one knew if she survived -Yes ----------- the building is unsafe because bits keep falling off it but it will not fall down.
From a couple of years ago in Australia
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4243787.htm
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Caroljo
Senator
"Our" building had huge passenger planes crash into them. So there is a difference. I do agree it was 'odd' that especially both buildings fell.
Emily
NSDAP Kanzler
A plane didn't crash into building #7. It was part of the WTC plaza, not one of the twin towers (which were bldgs. nos. 1 & 2)
Barbella
Senator
Actually, some of us noticed...
Queen Titania
Senator
This one is real - am not sold on the 'terrorist' attacks - but this building was where they dump poor people who have no other choice, the new cladding was not for the residence benefit but for the rich people living around the Tower not to be looking at an eyesore - The History of the area is interesting, including parts of it which were labelled the habitat of 'the criminal class' as other parts where really quite 'posh' at different times ( including now) - and even though even the slum houses were great and character filled houses, just over crowded with one loo amongst 21 families etc they began to knock parts of it down in the 1960s and build these inhumane high rise monsters ---- some fell down in 1968 so they changed the rules and this was one that was built after that but it should never have been built - one stair way for 120 families! - The number of dead will rise into 3 figures perhaps - there were 120 apartments spread over 21 floors and they are saying that no one in the top three had a chance of getting out and residence had been told to stay in their flats - I pass that building regularly on the bus - it is so squished in I don't know how the fire brigade got anywhere near it - poor people, poor London - and where will the people live now? They say that there are 200 empty homes in Kensington but outside the ones owned by rich Indians who never come to England they will be run down and awaiting demolition = because they are trying to get the poor out for rich foreign investment - some of the land is owned by the residence, it was given to them by Lord ? who had owned all of the area, to do with as they wished - it is a market Portobello Market - some how an American Corporate has been given it and they want to knock it all down and build a Mall -
Ohhhhh
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Boltlady
Governor
Sorry to disagree Caroljo, but bldg #7 was NOT hit by any plane. If you look up bldg #7, 9/11 I suspect you will find articles about it that will even include a video. It supposedly collapsed because of a fire that happened because of some paint cans in it's basement or utility area. Many people do not even know that it was one of the buildings that collapsed...even though the BBC reported it about 20-25 minutes BEFORE it happened. It was reported as though it already had.
Our media along with the commission report neglected to mention much if anything about bldg #7. You should still be able to find the information about it though.
Boltlady
Governor
Our gov't regularly displaces the poor folks to " beautify" an area without good options for where those folks can go to next.
Queen Titania
Senator
With all of the 'terrorist' attacks the next day we see smiling families telling us how 'wonderful' their dead one was ----------- ! don't think that we shall see the Ethiopian mother who turned to see her 12 year old daughter suddenly engulfed in smoke and flames, as they were trying to escape Grenfell Tower, on the TV any time soon! Do you?
She and so many others are totally broken - sent mad with grief ------------
Boltlady
Governor
Somehow we're generally only shown that which will further a particular agenda. If it's not useful along those lines they don't bother sharing with us.
Queen Titania
Senator
Oh they rehouse some of them here, but where? - but the EU disallows us to build social housing and Thatcher sold off many of the council housing and at the same time allowed 'buy to let' so that people could get a 100% mortgage in order to rent out the property sending rents sky high - oh and loads of other shit which has displaced the old Londoners as well as so many many others ------------ Those who lived but lost their homes in this fire are staying put because if they stay there the council have to rehome them there -- if they go and stay anywhere else they will be another councils problem -
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Queen Titania
Senator
Oh they are showing us the grief and the anger but there are no 'grieving' families giving pretty smiling press interviews - they are just raw. This is too big to cover up - too shocking - and how many 1000s of people are living in buildings just as dangerous all over the country?
They cut corners to pretty up an ugly building - and this is the cost - same old same old as was so in the 1960 70s when they started building these monstrosities for the poor.
Caroljo
Senator
I was referring to just bldgs 1 & 2....I actually forget about 7. And yes, I have never heard much about that one.
Building 7? Are you sure? Damn!!
Queen Titania
Senator
The residence were actually throwing things at him ---------- I have heard from people who were there
