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#5 Notre Dame BARELY survived BYU 17-14

Bo-4

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I only made one college bet yesterday. On BYU +13.5 points. I knew that was ridiculous based on the defense we all saw here in Boise which allowed us to barely survive the Cougars. And Riley Nelson is a smart, scrappy QB who moves well and has a stunning gift for converting third and longs.

Wasn't wrong in my assessment. BYU held a 14-7 lead much of the time and were it not for 2 plays.. a missed tackle and Nelson missing a wide open guy for a TD, it would have been all Cougars in a dominant route.

The best mid-majors out west can hang with anyone and i'll put BYU's and BSU's Defenses this year up against any offense in the country (yep, we're better than our D last year even after losing 5 of those guys to NFL).

Oh, the blackout at Bronco Stadium was fun yesterday. 99% of us fans wore black and the Broncs rolled on UNLV. There were a few traditionalists (likely Republicans :) who insisted on wearing orange and blue.. they stuck out like sore thumbs. :D

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I wouldn't get quite so hyped up based upon a victory over the Irish. Instead, I would say that the best mid-majors out west can hang with the best mid-majors out west -- and Notre Dame. ;)

I've got them pretty highly ranked (along with MSU) because they are undefeated. I don't really expect either team to remain undefeated for very much longer.
 
NightSwimmer said:
I wouldn't get quite so hyped up based upon a victory over the Irish. Instead, I would say that the best mid-majors out west can hang with the best mid-majors out west -- and Notre Dame. ;)

I've got them pretty highly ranked (along with MSU) because they are undefeated. I don't really expect either team to remain undefeated for very much longer.
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Well this year Irish beat both Michigan and Michigan State. And they beat Stanford who beat USC. And of course in the past few years we beat Georgia, VA Tech and Oregon two years straight.

So no, i'll stick with my assessment. ;-)
 
OldGaffer said:
My Sooners will dismantle the Irish next week, and it wont be close.
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I agree that ND is overrated, but you lost to Kansas State.

Can't find a spread on ND/OK yet. I'd expect a Sooner win in Norman, but don't think it will be a blowout.

Should be a dandy!
 
Kstate won just like they did back in 2003, with a swarming defense . They stripped Landry on the 3 yeard line and picked it up for an easy touch. KState got 3 turnovers and made 3 scores off them.
 
OldGaffer said:
Kstate won just like they did back in 2003, with a swarming defense . They stripped Landry on the 3 yeard line and picked it up for an easy touch. KState got 3 turnovers and made 3 scores off them.
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Defense in the college game is certainly not overrated. Ours has saved our bacon this year on several occasions. Our new QB Joe Southwick still isn't Kellen Moore (nor will be be) but we're seeing some great signs; particularly yesterday. Getting O and D both running simultaneously is what the top 10-15 teams will have figured out by season's end.
 
Bo-4 said:
Well this year Irish beat both Michigan and Michigan State. And they beat Stanford who beat USC. And of course in the past few years we beat Georgia, VA Tech and Oregon two years straight.

So no, i'll stick with my assessment. ;-)
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I've been trying to explain for some time that Georgia is merely a paper tiger fashioned from some cream-puff scheduling. Lowly Kentucky confirmed that yesterday. Beamer's two trademarks at VA Tech are great special teams play and finding a way to lose big games. They had some good years in the late 90s, but they get 10 wins a year now only because they joined the ACC. Face it -- the ACC is a weak football conference.

I'm not saying that these weren't quality wins anyway, but so was Alabama's opening win over Michigan -- and I don't hear anyone praising the Crimson Tide very much for that win. Instead, many are complaining that their schedule is too weak.

Notre Dame has thus far played:

Navy - 4 & 3
Purdue - 3 & 3
Michigan State - 4 & 4
Michigan - 5 & 2
Miami - 4 & 4
Stanford - 5 & 2
BYU - 4 & 4

Among those, only Michigan and Stanford have a respectable W/L ratio. I'll be surprised if the Sooners don't absolutely annihilate the Fighting Irish next Saturday.
 
BYU played a really good game yesterday. ND is a little less predictable when Golson is in at QB. I expect a good game next week in Norman. What's more, I'm rooting for Notre Dame!
 
Four points:

(1) I expect Oklahoma will pretty much clobber Notre Dame next week. Notre Dame has not seen an offense with the power and efficiency of Oklahoma.
(2) You say that Oklahoma lost to Kansas State. Well, let me tell you: Kansas State is one of the top four teams in the country. They may be one of the top two!!
(3) Notre Dame's strength is in its defense, not its offense. So...saying you would put the BYU and Boise State defenses up against anybody....well, if they went up against Kansas State, or even Texas Tech....I think it would get ugly.
(4) Kansas State quarterback Collin Klein should be the overwhelming favorite at this point for the Heisman.
 
You think OK is going to beat ND as bad as they beat TX, TX Tech or KS? No way. The line is OK by 10. I'm down with taking those spots. ND will hang within 10 of OK or beat OK. I'll bet against that line and hope the crow lands on your plate.
 
I'm not a fan of either team and I expect Oklahoma to win. It will be an interesting game, and I wouldn't bet on it -- even if I were a gambler. Notre Dame might well be an elite team this year, but they haven't yet proved it. Neither is there any evidence of them playing at an elite level in the past several years. The Oklahoma game will reveal whether ND has actually returned to elite status in CFB. It's been a while since they were in that category.
 
ARMCX1 said:
You think OK is going to beat ND as bad as they beat TX, TX Tech or KS? No way. The line is OK by 10. I'm down with taking those spots. ND will hang within 10 of OK or beat OK. I'll bet against that line and hope the crow lands on your plate.
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For one thing, Oklahoma did NOT beat Kansas State. Kansas State is undefeated, remember? Kansas State won AT Oklahoma; even more impressive. But, as I said, Notre Dame has been feasting on Big Ten teams this year, and the Big Ten is having a down year. Some of these Big 12 teams have offenses that are simply LETHAL. I think Oklahoma could win by three touchdowns....or more!
 
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