A "Bonehead Idea"...

[Zam-Zam]

So sayeth one Joe Biden, circa 1983, on packing the court:



Biden, then a U.S. Senator from Delaware, made the comments during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in July 1983 regarding nominations to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. At the time, Republican President Ronald Reagan had stoked controversy for attempting to replace three members of the commission.

Biden argued at the time that, although it was within the president’s right to do so, it risked damaging the credibility of the commission. He compared it to President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s unsuccessful attempts in 1937 to expand the Supreme Court by six justices – in other words, pack the court.

“President Roosevelt clearly had the right to send to the United States Senate and the United States Congress a proposal to pack the court. It was totally within his right to do that. He violated no law. He was legalistically, absolutely correct,” Biden, then 40, told the committee. “But it was a bonehead idea. It was a terrible, terrible mistake to make. And it put in question, if for an entire decade, the independence of the most-significant body … in this country, the Supreme Court of the United States of America.”



Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-court-packing-stance-1983-bonehead-idea



I'm guessing he and many of his supporters are suddenly enamored with the bonehead idea....



Proving once again, the best way to humiliate a politician is to quote them directly.

 

[Dawg]

Like a fish out of water flip-flopping around

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

This would not even be an issue if the GOP didn’t swipe SCOTUS seats. They should stop pissing on the Constitution.

 

[ObamacareForever]

So sayeth one Joe Biden, circa 1983, on packing the court:



Biden, then a U.S. Senator from Delaware, made the comments during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in July 1983 regarding nominations to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. At the time, Republican President Ronald Reagan had stoked controversy for attempting to replace three members of the commission.

Biden argued at the time that, although it was within the president’s right to do so, it risked damaging the credibility of the commission. He compared it to President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s unsuccessful attempts in 1937 to expand the Supreme Court by six justices – in other words, pack the court.

“President Roosevelt clearly had the right to send to the United States Senate and the United States Congress a proposal to pack the court. It was totally within his right to do that. He violated no law. He was legalistically, absolutely correct,” Biden, then 40, told the committee. “But it was a bonehead idea. It was a terrible, terrible mistake to make. And it put in question, if for an entire decade, the independence of the most-significant body … in this country, the Supreme Court of the United States of America.”



Complete text: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-court-packing-stance-1983-bonehead-idea



I'm guessing he and many of his supporters are suddenly enamored with the bonehead idea....



Proving once again, the best way to humiliate a politician is to quote them directly.

How does that humiliate Biden?

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

This would not even be an issue if the GOP didn’t swipe SCOTUS seats. They should stop pissing on the Constitution.

So, a President who follows the Constitution, who is elected for 4 years (not 3.5), and nominates a justice to the SCOTUS...is pissing on the same constitution they are actually following to the letter.... interesting concept, but I dont think it is founded in reality.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

So, a President who follows the Constitution, who is elected for 4 years (not 3.5), and nominates a justice to the SCOTUS...is pissing on the same constitution they are actually following to the letter.... interesting concept, but I dont think it is founded in reality.

This one thinks there are different constitutional rules for Dem and GOP presidents allowing the GOP to swipe SCOTUS seats.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

You're talking about Biden calling court packing a bonehead idea. Republicans ran with that bonehead idea.

Republican legislatures/governors have been packing their state Supreme Courts.

Florida, Iowa, Georgia.....

Court Packing? It’s Already Happening at the State Level

In recent years, Republican-led legislatures have been adding state supreme court seats and working to change nominating rules, aiming to bolster conservative majorities.

www.governing.com

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

This one thinks there are different constitutional rules for Dem and GOP presidents allowing the GOP to swipe SCOTUS seats.

you are not grounded in reality.

Trump is the sitting President, yes?
Trump's term is not yet up/over, yes?
The Constitution gives the sitting President the right to nominate SC justices, yes?
The Constitution gives the sitting Senate the 'avise and consent' role in the placing of SC justices, yes?

If you answer NO to ANY of those 4 basic questions, then as I stated, you are not grounded in reality.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

You're talking about Biden calling court packing a bonehead idea. Republicans ran with that bonehead idea.

Republican legislatures/governors have been packing their state Supreme Courts.

Florida, Iowa, Georgia.....

Court Packing? It’s Already Happening at the State Level

In recent years, Republican-led legislatures have been adding state supreme court seats and working to change nominating rules, aiming to bolster conservative majorities.

www.governing.com

And Dems would NEVER EVER do that, right?

 

[JuliefromOhio]

And Dems would NEVER EVER do that, right?

Now that Republicans have broken the norms and led the way, why shouldn't Dems do it?

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Now that Republicans have broken the norms and led the way, why shouldn't Dems do it?

btw...your 'source' has a liberal bias... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/governing-magazine/

Dismissed.

 

[Zam-Zam]

You're talking about Biden calling court packing a bonehead idea. Republicans ran with that bonehead idea.

Republican legislatures/governors have been packing their state Supreme Courts.

Florida, Iowa, Georgia.....

Court Packing? It’s Already Happening at the State Level

In recent years, Republican-led legislatures have been adding state supreme court seats and working to change nominating rules, aiming to bolster conservative majorities.

www.governing.com

So, is it a bonehead idea, or a good idea?

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

So, is it a bonehead idea, or a good idea?

Ideas such as packing the courts are never boneheaded in the first person, such as 'our people are packing the courts'. It is only in the third person, such as 'their people are packing the courts' when it becomes a boneheaded idea.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Ideas such as packing the courts are never boneheaded in the first person, such as 'our people are packing the courts'. It is only in the third person, such as 'their people are packing the courts' when it becomes a boneheaded idea.

And that's the problem with politics. Instead of taking a real stand on issues based on core principles, our politicos take the expedient convenient course and label it as bedrock.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

So, is it a bonehead idea, or a good idea?

In 1983, last century, Biden was right that it was a bonehead idea. This century, Republicans have decided it's not boneheaded, but an excellent way to break norms and pack courts in their favor. So Biden/Dems will get to do what they want.

 

[Bernard_Fokke]

This would not even be an issue if the GOP didn’t swipe SCOTUS seats. They should stop pissing on the Constitution.

awww do you feel violated that this President followed the constitution and acted properly just like you lib t's would if the situation was reversed?

my Suggestion is quit whining and give the board a break Please!

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

awww do you feel violated that this President followed the constitution and acted properly just like you lib t's would if the situation was reversed?

my Suggestion is quit whining and give the board a break Please!

This one just ignores the GOP’s application of a completely different “rule” when Obama sought to fill a vacant SCOTUS seat. GOP cultists don’t even notice their cult’s disgraceful dishonesty and hypocrisy.

 

[Zam-Zam]

In 1983, last century, Biden was right that it was a bonehead idea. This century, Republicans have decided it's not boneheaded, but an excellent way to break norms and pack courts in their favor. So Biden/Dems will get to do what they want.

Alas, another "flexible" core principle, based on who benefits. The shallow end of the ethics pool.

I think Joe actually got this one right - It was and is a bonehead idea....No matter who does it.

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

This one just ignores the GOP’s application of a completely different “rule” when Obama sought to fill a vacant SCOTUS seat. GOP cultists don’t even notice their cult’s disgraceful dishonesty and hypocrisy.

Obummer exercised his Constitutional right to make the nomination of Merrick Garland.... the GOP controlled Senate exercised their Constitutional right to NOT give advise and consent.

Simple, even for you.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Alas, another "flexible" core principle, based on who benefits. The shallow end of the ethics pool.

I think Joe actually got this one right - It was and is a bonehead idea....No matter who does it.

Bottom line:
The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices .