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A question for our board atheists........

Jen

Senator
so that I can better understand where you are coming from.

Are you glad that atheism is the truth?

If not, why?

If so, why?
 
so that I can better understand where you are coming from.

Are you glad that atheism is the truth?

If not, why?

If so, why?

What do mean by truth? Is not believing in unicorns "truth"?
I am not glad I am not sad...it just is
 
What do mean by truth? Is not believing in unicorns "truth"?
I am not glad I am not sad...it just is

I could have asked it this way:

Are you glad that atheism is what is?

truth = what is
Your answer was fine once you slid your insult in and gave it. Thank you
 
I could have asked it this way:

Are you glad that atheism is what is?

truth = what is
Your answer was fine once you slid your insult in and gave it. Thank you

What insult?? Everything is an insult to you......get over yourself
What is atheism? How does one answer that question ? It is nothing more than a lack of belief in a god.
 
What insult?? Everything is an insult to you......get over yourself
What is atheism? How does one answer that question ? It is nothing more than a lack of belief in a god.

I didn't ask "what is atheism". I know what it is.
I asked whether you are glad, relieved...........that atheism is what is.
I appreciate your answer. Thanks.
 
So you are glad that (in the broad expanse of earth's existence) you life is a brief blip signifying nothing.

Fair enough.

What do you mean his life signifies nothing? What does your life signify that mine or his doesn't? We pass through once and for some of us we leave legacies and love that exist long after we are gone
 
I didn't ask "what is atheism". I know what it is.
I asked whether you are glad, relieved...........that atheism is what is.
I appreciate your answer. Thanks.

AGain I ask....you keep saying that atheism is what it is.....what do you mean? What relief would an atheist get?
 
What do you mean his life signifies nothing? What does your life signify that mine or his doesn't? We pass through once and for some of us we leave legacies and love that exist long after we are gone

The lives of all but a very few people signify absolutely nothing. They live, they die........it's over. It signifies nothing. That does inspire another question though. If our lives signify nothing, then why make up rules? Why live by rules? We are here only a brief time and it is doubtful that, even if we write a book, it will last for more than a few years in the whole scheme of history - unless our name is Shakespeare.

So why the rules?
Why even make them up?
Why strive for a legacy?
What is the point?
 
Jen,

Are you have questions about your faith and are looking for a new way to see the world, and if so why not become Muslim?

Now before you ponder what the point to my question take a moment and ponder why you ask what you as and then answer my question with a straight face if you can, or not if you can not...
 
AGain I ask....you keep saying that atheism is what it is.....what do you mean? What relief would an atheist get?

My question was whether or not you get relief from believing that atheism is what is.
Didn't you already answer my question?
I believe you did.
 
The lives of all but a very few people signify absolutely nothing. They live, they die........it's over. It signifies nothing. That does inspire another question though. If our lives signify nothing, then why make up rules? Why live by rules? We are here only a brief time and it is doubtful that, even if we write a book, it will last for more than a few years in the whole scheme of history - unless our name is Shakespeare.

So why the rules?
Why even make them up?
Why strive for a legacy?
What is the point?

We write rules because we pass through once and need order. It is you who is saying our lives signify nothing......that's sad to feel that way. My life signifies so much...even more than a book, ....(got the barb)
I still don't know where you're going with this....what does your life "signify"?
 
Jen,

Are you have questions about your faith and are looking for a new way to see the world, and if so why not become Muslim?

Now before you ponder what the point to my question take a moment and ponder why you ask what you as and then answer my question with a straight face if you can, or not if you can not...

I have questions about the faith of others.
I am curious.
My own faith is fine.

As for becoming a Muslim, I think knowing about Muslim penchant for female genital mutilation would stop me cold.
 
I have questions about the faith of others.
I am curious.
My own faith is fine.

As for becoming a Muslim, I think knowing about Muslim penchant for female genital mutilation would stop me cold.

Alright fair enough but I am concern you might be using the PJ forums to discover a new faith and if so please, please, PLEASE do not because most if not all of us suffer from a case of nutterism...
 
Alright fair enough but I am concern you might be using the PJ forums to discover a new faith and if so please, please, PLEASE do not because most if not all of us suffer from a case of nutterism...

Oh, don't be concerned about THAT, Jack.

If I want a new faith (and I don't) I'll use Google. I know that nobody here has the answers or in the last 10+ years we would've found some.
 
Oh, don't be concerned about THAT, Jack.

If I want a new faith (and I don't) I'll use Google. I know that nobody here has the answers or in the last 10+ years we would've found some.

I have the answers to the test but I refuse to give them to you!!!

Those that do not believe in God have that right, and I accept them even though I do not agree with their point of view...

I believe in God but not Church, and see Jesus as a Prophet and not a Messiah, so I can understand how those that do not believe sometimes get upset when ask why they believe this way...
 
I have the answers to the test but I refuse to give them to you!!!

Those that do not believe in God have that right, and I accept them even though I do not agree with their point of view...

I believe in God but not Church, and see Jesus as a Prophet and not a Messiah, so I can understand how those that do not believe sometimes get upset when ask why they believe this way...

I accept atheists as they are too. I have no desire to change their mind, but I do want to understand it better. Simple curiosity.

Like you, I believe in God but am not a fan of Church. I believe Jesus is the Messiah.

I do not believe that I have the mission, the right or the knowledge to try to convince anyone to be swayed to my belief. I think that pre-destination might be in play in some way. If God is all-knowing, then he knows who belongs to him and who does not. We have the choice and power to break away. I do not choose to do that. And some who are not God's from the start of their lives may be His ultimately...........and if that's true, God knows it. And the sad conclusion is that not all people belong to God, I guess. Not sure how that works, but it is what it is. Maybe they can make some change to what is, but it's theirs to do.........not someone elses to do for them or on behalf of them.

That's my basic belief.
 
so that I can better understand where you are coming from.

Are you glad that atheism is the truth?

If not, why?

If so, why?


Atheism is not a faith. Atheism is merely the absence of a faith. One need do nothing to become an atheist. That is the default human condition. Theism, on the other hand, requires the learning of an elaborate mental construct, since God is, by definition, not observable. Atheists don't have a Holy Book.
 
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