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All this unrest over politics scares me...

Marcus Aurelius

Governor
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So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.
 
So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.

seems the move toward reducing gun sales was helped by the acceptance of wanton destruction, theft, violence, and beatings......

o_O
 
So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.

Now imagine being in one of those Democrat-controlled shitholes where they make sure you can't carry, or even own, a firearm. They want you completely at the mercy of the criminals who run loose in the cities.
 
So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.
It has become unfathomably bad - particularly here in the Northwest. The civil authorities are barred by statute from protecting us. I saw this coming a couple of months ago and beefed up my arms stash - adding both an AR 15 rife as well as a CMMG Banshee, along with quite a few 30 round magazines. As our government continues to intentionally fortify the efforts of murderous rioters, the need for large-capacity weaponry is made apparent.
I have never been a big gun guy. I’ve owned a .357 for years, but that was it.
The government made this stuff necessary. Let me be clear here. The government, particularly here in Oregon and Washington, hates us. There can be no other conclusion to draw when they order the police to stand down and watch law abiding citizens be cut down, rendered victims of arson, and murdered in cold blood in the streets. So, my advice to fellow citizens is to arm up, practice up, and be sure to have a decent stash of ammo. Most of all, take this opportunity to teach your children about evil, that they are able to recognize it despite state-sponsored public school brainwashing.
 
It has become unfathomably bad - particularly here in the Northwest. The civil authorities are barred by statute from protecting us. I saw this coming a couple of months ago and beefed up my arms stash - adding both an AR 15 rife as well as a CMMG Banshee, along with quite a few 30 round magazines. As our government continues to intentionally fortify the efforts of murderous rioters, the need for large-capacity weaponry is made apparent.
I have never been a big gun guy. I’ve owned a .357 for years, but that was it.
The government made this stuff necessary. Let me be clear here. The government, particularly here in Oregon and Washington, hates us. There can be no other conclusion to draw when they order the police to stand down and watch law abiding citizens be cut down, rendered victims of arson, and murdered in cold blood in the streets. So, my advice to fellow citizens is to arm up, practice up, and be sure to have a decent stash of ammo. Most of all, take this opportunity to teach your children about evil, that they are able to recognize it despite state-sponsored public school brainwashing.

Good luck. I hope everything works out ok for you and your family. Stay away from crowds.
 
Good luck. I hope everything works out ok for you and your family. Stay away from crowds.
We’ll be good. We’re not runts in my family, and we are informed. As we discussed in prior posts, we look forward to moving soon but were trying to allow our youngest daughter (16) to finish her last two years of HS with her friends here for stability. However if we need to accelerate our timetable we will.
 
We’ll be good. We’re not runts in my family, and we are informed. As we discussed in prior posts, we look forward to moving soon but were trying to allow our youngest daughter (16) to finish her last two years of HS with her friends here for stability. However if we need to accelerate our timetable we will.

Wow, we're in almost exactly the same boat here in CA. My daughter just started her senior year of HS; our older one is in college in Texas. We're planning to move there, but wanted to wait until the younger one graduates. My wife is in TX right now looking at houses, though, so who knows...
 
So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.
I imagine I might feel the same way if I lived somewhere other than where I do.
 
Wow, we're in almost exactly the same boat here in CA. My daughter just started her senior year of HS; our older one is in college in Texas. We're planning to move there, but wanted to wait until the younger one graduates. My wife is in TX right now looking at houses, though, so who knows...
Awesome. We lived in TX prior to moving back to Oregon in 2002. We loved the Hill Country and that is on our short list of places to move. We even talked a bit about accelerating the move in order to entice our daughter to choose a Texas school. What part of Texas are you guys considering?
 
Awesome. We lived in TX prior to moving back to Oregon in 2002. We loved the Hill Country and that is on our short list of places to move. We even talked a bit about accelerating the move in order to entice our daughter to choose a Texas school. What part of Texas are you guys considering?

Right now it's down to San Marcos or Georgetown. Our daughter is at Baylor in Waco. My wife is in San Marcos looking at neighborhoods this week.
 
Right now it's down to San Marcos or Georgetown. Our daughter is at Baylor in Waco. My wife is in San Marcos looking at neighborhoods this week.
Both good areas. We lived in Dripping Springs (rural ‘burb west of Austin) and loved it. Passively looking in the same area. With one kid graduated and onto his career in SF, another at the Air Force Academy, we’re trying to steer the youngest as best we can. UT, A&M, Baylor, TCU, and Rice are all great options.
 
Lotta people are.


My son is a Baylor graduate. Still lives in Waco.
Yes many people are looking there. Our home we sold in Dripping Springs in ‘02 is now valued at 2X what we sold it for (and we did well on it). I’m not certain this is where we’ll end up but we really loved central Texas. And wifey’s brother and his family live in The Woodlands/Houston, so there’s family as well.

Baylor is a great school, agreed. My daughter is one of those driven, over-achiever types...so she’s aggressively looking (at TOO MANY schools, frankly).
 
So much so, that for the first time, I have applied for a CCL in PA. I have multiple firearms, shoot fairly regularly, and am a lifetime NRA member. But I've never felt until now that I might actually be unsafe in public. Shooting has always been a hobby for me, although I've always said I would have no problems defending me or mine should the need arise.

It has arisen.

This crap being allowed to go on in Portland, Seattle, Shitcago, etc., was the deciding factor.

Side note: I'll not be carrying my 1911, as it's too expensive to worry about losing or damaging, and I like it on the range.

So I am likely going for a PPK clone.....preferably the Bersa Thunder 380 (or possibly the plus if the larger grip isnt too uncomfortable). Similar balistics to a 9mm, weghs less, and better recoil management. Walthers are just too expensive.
Try a Sig P238. That's my carry. Lightweight but has stopping power. You may have to change grips for a larger hand, but it works well and is accurate at 15-20 yards.
 
It has become unfathomably bad - particularly here in the Northwest. The civil authorities are barred by statute from protecting us. I saw this coming a couple of months ago and beefed up my arms stash - adding both an AR 15 rife as well as a CMMG Banshee, along with quite a few 30 round magazines. As our government continues to intentionally fortify the efforts of murderous rioters, the need for large-capacity weaponry is made apparent.
I have never been a big gun guy. I’ve owned a .357 for years, but that was it.
The government made this stuff necessary. Let me be clear here. The government, particularly here in Oregon and Washington, hates us. There can be no other conclusion to draw when they order the police to stand down and watch law abiding citizens be cut down, rendered victims of arson, and murdered in cold blood in the streets. So, my advice to fellow citizens is to arm up, practice up, and be sure to have a decent stash of ammo. Most of all, take this opportunity to teach your children about evil, that they are able to recognize it despite state-sponsored public school brainwashing.
Uh, how would sacrificing police in futile, symbolic resistance to the rebels who would put them to rout be a better option?
 
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