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Arab Spring Update

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It's all good, right?



Five days of protests in Egypt, with dozens of people killed and entire cities in turmoil, have revealed a whopping deficit of public trust in the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic group that dominates the leadership of this young democracy of the Arab Spring.

n cities like Port Said, the protesters have displayed an open defiance of President Mohamed Morsi’s orders on a curfew and state of emergency. Egypt’s Army chief warns of the state collapsing. And indeed, many Egyptians now talk of splitting up the Arab world’s most populous state.

The triggers for this upheaval were the second anniversary of the fall of Hosni Mubarak and a court sentencing 21 people for the deaths of 74 people after a soccer match last year. But below the surface of this dissent lies a deeper struggle. It is one trying to define the source of legitimacy for Egypt’s new leaders, or the kind of sentiment that cements trust between a government and its people.

As it has slowly risen to power in the past two years, the Muslim Brotherhood has broken many promises about the role it would play in representative government. Its flip-flops and power grabs in forming a new regime have only added to a worry among democracy advocates that Mr. Morsi would define his authority from Islam, or sharia law, rather than from constitutional rights and secular pluralism.




Complete text: http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary...-Brotherhood?nav=87-frontpage-entryCommentary



I'm glad that's fixed.
 
There is no instant gratification with a revolution. We've tried installing puppet governments and suppressing revolution by force in the past. That hasn't worked out so well, has it? I doubt that we'll convince Middle Easterners to convert from Islam overnight. Maybe we should try another Crusade?
 
Do you think we should have sent in the U.S. Army to support the previous tyrant, Mubarak?


No. What I am saying is that all those people who tried to put a smiley face on this really didn't know what they were talking about. I've offered evidence that supports that assertion.
 
There is no instant gratification with a revolution. We've tried installing puppet governments and suppressing revolution by force in the past. That hasn't worked out so well, has it? I doubt that we'll convince Middle Easterners to convert from Islam overnight. Maybe we should try another Crusade?



Islam is not the problem. Radical Islam, on the other hand, bears no good fruit.
 
No. What I am saying is that all those people who tried to put a smiley face on this really didn't know what they were talking about. I've offered evidence that supports that assertion.

I don't know of too many people, offhand, who have been putting "a smiley face" on this situation.
 
It certainly wasn't me. Maybe it was the strawman?



Here's a couple of strawmen for you:



"We stand with the Egyptian people in their quest for universal freedoms and protections," Clinton said. "Egypt's international standing does depend both on peaceful relations with its neighbors and also on the choices it makes at home and whether or not it fulfills its own promises to its own people."

The Obama administration has earmarked some $1 billion in assistance for countries emerging from the Arab Spring revolutions, and has asked Congress for a separate $770 million fund tied to specific political and economic reforms.
 
Here's a couple of strawmen for you:



"We stand with the Egyptian people in their quest for universal freedoms and protections," Clinton said. "Egypt's international standing does depend both on peaceful relations with its neighbors and also on the choices it makes at home and whether or not it fulfills its own promises to its own people."

The Obama administration has earmarked some $1 billion in assistance for countries emerging from the Arab Spring revolutions, and has asked Congress for a separate $770 million fund tied to specific political and economic reforms.



Both Cameron and La Clinton went to Egypt to bedevil the greatest dread of the USA, Democracy.
 
Q: When did refraining from propping up an unelected dictator become an attack on democracy?

A: The very day that it became official US foreign policy.

The puppets of the West .When have we ever allowed anyone else Democracy ? Egypt is complex .......we had two choices of whom we should support The Brotherhood, which even took away the pretence of secularism or the Young Revolutionaries ....we chose th Brotherhood, many of the young Revolutionaries are now in Jail or 'Mental Hospitals' .so much for supporting Democracy.

Now here is an interesting thing, to me anyway .............I love this site and used it as a quick reference often. It disappeared for ages, or rather it was changed into only telling of their course, after the Brotherhood came in but I have kept the link and now it is back as was. Ah well ..........just one of those ? odd things

http://www.alazhr.com/


http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html


Do you know where our [Unwelcome language removed] bastard PM is now Knight ? Guess ....In Algeria selling them Arms ......evil little shit.
 
"We" chose the Brotherhood...

You got a mouse in your pocket, Queenie? So far as I know, you don't speak for the US government -- much as you'd like to.
 
Arab Spring Update

It's all good, right?


maybe we should've sent Junior and Cheney to spread democracy in Egypt.
 
Here's a couple of strawmen for you:



"We stand with the Egyptian people in their quest for universal freedoms and protections," Clinton said. "Egypt's international standing does depend both on peaceful relations with its neighbors and also on the choices it makes at home and whether or not it fulfills its own promises to its own people."

The Obama administration has earmarked some $1 billion in assistance for countries emerging from the Arab Spring revolutions, and has asked Congress for a separate $770 million fund tied to specific political and economic reforms.

I am deeply puzzled as to how any of that qualifies as "putting a smiley face on it". Perhaps you'd care to explain?
 
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