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Backing Down......

Zam-Zam

Senator
When the sky refused to fall, the jig was up......


President Barack Obama used to want a grand deficit deal because he philosophically believed it was best for the country, and politically believed it was best for him.

Now he needs it because he has no choice.

Obama’s failure to avert $85 billion in spending cuts known as the sequester underscored the limits of his outside strategy and signaled that he could not persuade Republicans to raise revenue again without a comprehensive agreement to overhaul the Tax Code and entitlements.

A lull in the deadline-driven budget battles could soon give way to a fresh round of fiscal crises — from rising public pressure to lift the sequester to a looming summer deadline to increase the debt limit. If the president is to have any hope of resolving either fight to his liking, he’ll need more revenue. But Republicans won’t even consider it unless entitlement reforms are on the table.

So after more than two months in hiding, talk of a grand bargain has suddenly resurfaced in Washington.

Obama is doing things he’s never done — like dine out this week with a dozen Republican senators at a meal in which they talked fiscal issues, invite House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to the White House for lunch — and to re-engage with lawmakers after almost two years of campaigning against them.

“This week, we’ve gone 180,” House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Thursday. “After being in office now for four years, he’s actually going to sit down and talk to members.”




Complete text: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/its-back-the-grand-bargain-is-on-the-table-88610.html?hp=l1


I can't imagine he's too happy about that.....
 
Obama is a family man. During his first term, he was spending the evenings with his family. And now, as he himself has explained, Sasha and Malia are getting to the age where they don't WANT to spend so much time with the old man. He now has more free time.

And I think he is quite happy about that. He has ALWAYS been interested in a 'grand bargain'. Boehner walked away from the last one.
 
Obama is a family man. During his first term, he was spending the evenings with his family. And now, as he himself has explained, Sasha and Malia are getting to the age where they don't WANT to spend so much time with the old man. He now has more free time.

And I think he is quite happy about that. He has ALWAYS been interested in a 'grand bargain'. Boehner walked away from the last one.





That may be the funniest excuse I've ever heard.
 
It's a perfectly good excuse. Unless, of course, you're totally opposed to 'family values'. Such an admission would be VERY funny, coming from a conservative.


You're right. He's the first President ever to have a family.

Of course, he found time for Letterman, the View, golf with Tiger, etc., He just couldn't find time for his job.
 
in 2009, Pres Obama invited republicans to the White House for many social events. the majority of the time, the pricks declined the invitation.
 
in 2009, Pres Obama invited republicans to the White House for many social events. the majority of the time, the pricks declined the invitation.



So, according to you, the President hasn't talked to the opposition party since 2009? That's four years, which is exactly what the article in 'Politico' said. And even then, according to you (since you provided no other source), it was for "social events".


Thanks for backing me up.
 
more than half of freshman Republicans elected in 2010 declined their invitation to a reception with the president and first lady Michelle Obama.

why?
 
more than half of freshman Republicans elected in 2010 declined their invitation to a reception with the president and first lady Michelle Obama.

why?

Why's should they go's to attend some party put on by a Kenyan Muslim Commienist atheist whose hell-bent on destroyin' Amerca? HUH??
 
more than half of freshman Republicans elected in 2010 declined their invitation to a reception with the president and first lady Michelle Obama.

why?




You provide no source so it's hard to say without knowing both sides. However, that has nothing at all to do with the President meeting with opposition party members for the purpose of getting something done. You seem to not want to discuss that.
 
Julie, you're quite right. This is more a case of the Republicans backing down, than it is of the President backing down. But don't expect our Zam-Zam to admit that.....



Can you back that up with something other than just saying it? According to 'Politico',


Obama is doing things he’s never done — like dine out this week with a dozen Republican senators at a meal in which they talked fiscal issues, invite House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to the White House for lunch — and to re-engage with lawmakers after almost two years of campaigning against them.
 
Can you back that up with something other than just saying it? According to 'Politico',


Obama is doing things he’s never done — like dine out this week with a dozen Republican senators at a meal in which they talked fiscal issues, invite House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to the White House for lunch — and to re-engage with lawmakers after almost two years of campaigning against them.

He's never done that before, BECAUSE Republicans customarily rejected his invitations to dine together.
 
He's never done that before, BECAUSE Republicans customarily rejected his invitations to dine together.


So the answer would be no, you can't.


Let's see what a prominent Democrat has to say about it:


Former White House press secretary Dee Dee Myers said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the sequester fight showed that “there were limits to [Obama’s] effectiveness campaigning against the Republican House.”

“That approach wasn’t particularly successful,” said Myers, who was press secretary under Bill Clinton. “So it’s time to try something else. And this is something he’s been getting a lot of advice about recently, that he’s been a little aloof. He hasn’t invested time building relationships on either side of the aisle, quite frankly, and maybe it’s time to try a different approach.”




Oops.
 
Julie, you're quite right. This is more a case of the Republicans backing down, than it is of the President backing down. But don't expect our Zam-Zam to admit that.....

yes, those senators and reps FINALLY backed down and decided to accept invites from Pres Obama.

I recall both Boehner and Cantor on separate occasions BOLTING from meetings with Pres Obama.
 
repubs didn't accept prior invitations because they were too busy calling Pres Obama everything but a black man.....to each other, to their constituents, to birthers, etc.
 
repubs didn't accept prior invitations because they were too busy calling Pres Obama everything but a black man.....to each other, to their constituents, to birthers, etc.



Never a source with you, is there. Just sputtering hatred backed by nothing.




Even people within the administration conceded the President has had to change his gameplan:


White House officials began privately acknowledging several weeks ago that the president would have to return to a big deal if he hoped to wring any more revenue out of Congress.




http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/its-back-the-grand-bargain-is-on-the-table-88610_Page3.html




Oops again.
 
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