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Boehner Resigning

Arkady

Arkady

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Boehner's leaving Congress at the end of October. The hard right is thrilled. Boehner was never going to be mistaken for an old school moderate Republican in the Eisenhower tradition, but he still wasn't right-wing enough for them. For example, he wasn't eager to shut down government in order to force a symbolic fight over Planned Parenthood funding. The GOP just continues its plunge into extremism.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/john-boehner-resigning-as-speaker/index.html
 
I think we're overdue for a new speaker.

resigning your house seat because you're not feeling the love from newcomers is over the top, however.

typically you only resign your seat 10 months into your term if you're fatally ill, or facing indictment.
 
as seen on tv said:
I think we're overdue for a new speaker.

resigning your house seat because you're not feeling the love from newcomers is over the top, however.

typically you only resign your seat 10 months into your term if you're fatally ill, or facing indictment.
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Notice how when Hillary left Secretary of state, there were no malicious theories about why? She simply just wanted to step down?

How about all of the Obama appointees who have run like dogs after being involved in scandals, like Lois Lerner, the head of the VA, etc.

I'm sure they just innocently got the calling to leave politics at that moment.

But Boehner? Well, let's all think as to what ugly, desperate, or evil motivation he could be acting on.

Don't you find that odd?
 
as seen on tv said:
I think we're overdue for a new speaker.

resigning your house seat because you're not feeling the love from newcomers is over the top, however.

typically you only resign your seat 10 months into your term if you're fatally ill, or facing indictment.
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We may not be getting the whole story. Someone may have had something on him and forced the resignation.
 
Arkady said:
Boehner's leaving Congress at the end of October. The hard right is thrilled. Boehner was never going to be mistaken for an old school moderate Republican in the Eisenhower tradition, but he still wasn't right-wing enough for them. For example, he wasn't eager to shut down government in order to force a symbolic fight over Planned Parenthood funding. The GOP just continues its plunge into extremism.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/john-boehner-resigning-as-speaker/index.html
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Boehner won't be leaving until after he leads the House through the budget vote aka the PP/shutdown vote.
I watched a speech by Sen Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) begging her fellow senators to leave PP alone. She's frantic as her reelect is in 2016 and repub senators don't do well in prez election years.
 
Mr. Friscus said:
Notice how when Hillary left Secretary of state, there were no malicious theories about why? She simply just wanted to step down?
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She served out for Obama's first four-year term and then stepped aside, according to the normal pattern of Secretaries of State. Why would there have been a need for any theories about that? Rice, Powell, Albright, Chistopher, and Eageleberger all, likewise, served a four-year run. In the modern era, the only SoS's to serve longer than that were George Schultz, under Reagan, and Dean Rusk, in the Kennedy/Johnson years. And Schultz was a special case since he took over "off cycle" because Haig was forced out in mid-'82. So, if Clinton had taken over in 2009 and stayed on past when she did, it would have been a break with a long tradition going back to the late 1960s. That's why there wasn't a lot of theorizing about her stepping down. It was an "ordinary course" turnover.
 
Cerulean Mutt said:
Yep.

Boehner saw the handwriting on the wall and decided that he had had enough.

Maybe he could take up herding cats - he has some relevant experience.
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I think he'd make a fine lobbyist for big government liberal interests.
 
Arkady said:
We may not be getting the whole story. Someone may have had something on him and forced the resignation.
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Frankly, it would be hard to believe otherwise- just going by how politics works in general, and ESPECIALLY at the level of Speaker of the House.
 
Arkady said:
We may not be getting the whole story. Someone may have had something on him and forced the resignation.
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After listening to his press conference, I believe he's just tired of the bullshit. If he was making headway, I think he would have continued to swim in that river of crap, but since he wasn't, he decided to retire.
 
Max R. said:
After listening to his press conference, I believe he's just tired of the bullshit. If he was making headway, I think he would have continued to swim in that river of crap, but since he wasn't, he decided to retire.
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Could be. I can imagine it's got to be exhausting. Probably politics were always an exhausting affair, but lately they're exhausting without much actual reward... how excited can you get when the extent of your success is merely blocking the efforts of some other group? It's not like they're voting to build the Interstate Highway System, or the Erie or Panama canals, or to set up the GI Bill or Social Security, or to bring a new state into the union, or any active change that might improve the lives of their fellow Americans. It comes down to crap like whether to defund a family planning group and whether to have another pointless symbolic vote against healthcare reform. It's got to be hard to get up for that day after day.
 
JuliefromOhio said:
Boehner won't be leaving until after he leads the House through the budget vote aka the PP/shutdown vote.
I watched a speech by Sen Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) begging her fellow senators to leave PP alone. She's frantic as her reelect is in 2016 and repub senators don't do well in prez election years.
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Whenever a government shut down is discussed, why is it everyone ONLY speaks of it being the responsibility of one of the involved parties, (the republicans), and NEVER the responsibility of the other involved party, (the democratic president)?

Say the Congress would pass a budget that funds the entire government EXCEPT planned parenthood, let's just say they did..............

Obummer gets the budget and vetos it as he said he will do to ANY budget that does not give tax money to the abortion mills of his choosing. With a stroke of his mighty pen obami vetos the entire budget which results in what? The feared gubment shutdown.

Never mind which position YOU side with, how is it even possible that what SHOULD be otherwise fairly intellectual people, simply cannot grasp the concept that had EITHER of the involved parties given in EITHER could have prevented this AND, because NEITHER did, EITHER could be blamed?

Yet THAT is NEVER discussed..................... By SOME of YOU..................



Speaks volumes concerning your complete, unabashed lack of even a shred of intellectual integrity, I'll tell you that.

Wish I could say I am shocked. Sadly we both know I am not.

Even more sad is that we both know WHY I am not.
 
Arkady said:
She served out for Obama's first four-year term and then stepped aside, according to the normal pattern of Secretaries of State. Why would there have been a need for any theories about that? Rice, Powell, Albright, Chistopher, and Eageleberger all, likewise, served a four-year run. In the modern era, the only SoS's to serve longer than that were George Schultz, under Reagan, and Dean Rusk, in the Kennedy/Johnson years. And Schultz was a special case since he took over "off cycle" because Haig was forced out in mid-'82. So, if Clinton had taken over in 2009 and stayed on past when she did, it would have been a break with a long tradition going back to the late 1960s. That's why there wasn't a lot of theorizing about her stepping down. It was an "ordinary course" turnover.
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Okay, how about all of the appointees who suddenly "decided" to step down after being busted by revealed dirty practices?
 
UPNYA2 said:
Whenever a government shut down is discussed, why is it everyone ONLY speaks of it being the responsibility of one of the involved parties, (the republicans), and NEVER the responsibility of the other involved party, (the democratic president)?

Say the Congress would pass a budget that funds the entire government EXCEPT planned parenthood, let's just say they did..............

Obummer gets the budget and vetos it as he said he will do to ANY budget that does not give tax money to the abortion mills of his choosing. With a stroke of his mighty pen obami vetos the entire budget which results in what? The feared gubment shutdown.

Never mind which position YOU side with, how is it even possible that what SHOULD be otherwise fairly intellectual people, simply cannot grasp the concept that had EITHER of the involved parties given in EITHER could have prevented this AND, because NEITHER did, EITHER could be blamed?

Yet THAT is NEVER discussed..................... By SOME of YOU..................



Speaks volumes concerning your complete, unabashed lack of even a shred of intellectual integrity, I'll tell you that.

Wish I could say I am shocked. Sadly we both know I am not.

Even more sad is that we both know WHY I am not.
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That is like asking why is it never the fault of the cops when someone takes hostages and threatens to kill them if their demands are not met ?
 
Arkady said:
Could be. I can imagine it's got to be exhausting. Probably politics were always an exhausting affair, but lately they're exhausting without much actual reward... how excited can you get when the extent of your success is merely blocking the efforts of some other group? It's not like they're voting to build the Interstate Highway System, or the Erie or Panama canals, or to set up the GI Bill or Social Security, or to bring a new state into the union, or any active change that might improve the lives of their fellow Americans. It comes down to crap like whether to defund a family planning group and whether to have another pointless symbolic vote against healthcare reform. It's got to be hard to get up for that day after day.
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You mean like good Germans trying to stop Nazis in 1933? Yes, that can get boring from the repetition.
 
Max R. said:
You mean like good Germans trying to stop Nazis in 1933? Yes, that can get boring from the repetition.
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Most likely it was a crisis of conscience that had been a long time coming. And after hearing and meeting with the Pope he just couldn't lead this group who are absolutely antithetical to the message of his church any longer.
 
Spamature said:
Most likely it was a crisis of conscience that had been a long time coming. And after hearing and meeting with the Pope he just couldn't lead this group who are absolutely antithetical to the message of his church any longer.
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He stated at his press conference today that he was planning on leaving at the end of the year and the reasons why. The Pope's comments simply triggered him to do it now rather than later.
 
Spamature said:
Most likely it was a crisis of conscience that had been a long time coming. And after hearing and meeting with the Pope he just couldn't lead this group who are absolutely antithetical to the message of his church any longer.
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Wow, the Catholic Church is for irresponsible government spending? Who knew?
 
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