guns, large capacity clips and ammo sales are skyrocketing..
exactly like what happened with the first ban...
gun dealers and manufacturers are reaping their biggest sales since the first ban..
they love these bans..
more guns on the street,,
just like the first ban..
no reduction in gun violence from the first ban..
increase in gun violence since the first ban..
the nra sees it membership skyrocket unlike any other time...
just like the first ban..
insanity is doing the same thing time and gain and expecting different results..
why are you putting more guns on the street?
Out of curiosity, oicu812, who do you think will fall for that? You claim that there was an "increase in gun violence since the first ban." That is, of course, incorrect, as anyone who isn't a gibbering imbecile knows. Before anyone reports me for name-callling, please understand that I am not calling you a gibbering imbecile. I'm just saying that you'd need to be one to actually believe what you posted. It seems more likely that you're merely a liar.
Anyway, here are the stats:
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/tables/weaponstab.cfm
That is a little dated, but it covers almost the entirety of the period of the first assault-weapons ban, so it'll do.
As you'll see, in the period following 1994, when the first assault weapons ban was implemented, murders by guns fell from 16,336 to 11,346. That's a decrease of 30.5%. That's all the more remarkable when you remember that population grew by 12.3% in that time, so that firearm homicides would have to have grown by the same amount just to keep the same rate. In other words, the first assault weapons ban was followed by a big drop in gun homicides. I couldn't find as up-to-date of data for overall gun violence (as opposed to murder), but through 2001, gun violence was down following the first ban:
bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/wuvc01.pdf
Now, of course, that doesn't prove that the ban reduced the gun violence rate. It just proves that you're posting falsehoods when you claim that the first ban was followed by an increase in gun violence.
I might be wrong about you being a liar. Maybe you simply didn't know the facts. Maybe you rely on some typical gun-nut website that posts things that aren't true, and you never thought to check. Fair enough. Simply apologize for having inadvertently misled people in this forum, to undo the harm you did.
As for the various right-wing claims that studies found the first ban didn't help, that's simply not true. The various studies never claimed to have shown that the ban didn't help. Some said it helped in a small way, while others said that it could not be shown to have helped. That's a very different thing. Given the fairly small proportion of gun crimes that involve assault weapons, it's hard to establish statistical significance when working through the data. Other factors and random variations can overwhelm that tested factor. If people want to say that the assault weapons ban is a bad idea because we don't have enough evidence that the last attempt was successful, that's fine. But it's incorrect to say it's a bad idea because we have evidence that it was unsuccessful, or, worse, that there was an increase in gun violence following it (which is just straight up demonstrably false).
