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Chinese diplomat lectures West on Russia’s ‘real security concerns’ over Ukraine

Western nations should heed Russia's legitimate security concerns over the volatile situation in Ukraine, a top Chinese diplomat has said in a rare public statement on the crisis that has damaged relations between Russia and the West.

Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, said the Ukrainian crisis came about due to the ongoing “game”– a metaphor similar to that used by US geopolitical strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who referred to it as the “grand chessboard” – between Russia and the West, which has not abated despite, or because of, the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Arguing that outside interference by various powers inflamed the Ukrainian situation, Xing said Moscow would naturally feel threatened unless Western powers engaged in a more constructive approach.

Xing advised Western powers to “abandon the zero-sum mentality” in their efforts to deal with Moscow and the Ukraine crisis and “take the real security concerns of Russia into consideration," Reuters reported, quoting state news agency Xinhua.

China in the past has urged all involved parties to sit down and negotiate for peace.

The Chinese ambassador, whose Brussels office is in the same city as NATO’s headquarters, then offered some insight as to what motivates the United States on the international stage, and what could lead to its possible decline.

“The United States is unwilling to see its presence in any part of the world being weakened, but the fact is its resources are limited, and it will be to some extent hard work to sustain its influence in external affairs,”he was quoted as saying.

Xing said Washington's involvement in Ukraine could “become a distraction in its foreign policy.”

The Chinese diplomat’s comments represent a sharp departure from the relentless wave of hostile rhetoric coming from the West, which has gone to great lengths to blame Russia as the aggressor in the crisis.

Russia has been accused of arming eastern Ukrainian militia and dispatching soldiers and armaments as reinforcement – claims Moscow has denied on numerous occasions. There were even suggestions that Russia was somehow involved in the downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014.

Despite the extreme nature of the allegations, no substantive evidence has ever been presented to support such claims.

Indeed, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has blamed the United States as being the primary destabilizing factor in Ukraine.

“Through every step, as the crisis has developed, our American colleagues and the EU under their influence have tried to escalate the situation,” Lavrov told participants at the Munich Security Conference earlier this month.

Lavrov pointed to the failure of the EU to engage Russia over Brussels’ efforts to have Ukraine sign an economic association agreement with the bloc; the involvement of Western political figures during the Maidan protests; the failure of the West to condemn Kiev for branding its own citizens “terrorists;” and for supporting a coup that led to the toppling of a democratically elected president.

“The US made it public it brokered the transit of power in Ukraine. But we know perfectly well what exactly happened, who discussed candidates for the future Ukrainian government on the phone, who was at Maidan, and what is going on [in Ukraine] right now,” Lavrov said.

China is a member of BRICS, the economic association that includes Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa.


http://rt.com/news/236127-china-russia-west-ukraine/

What we all forget is that both China and the USSR were quietly sitting watching the US take over of the World for years and years - they know you/us better than you/we know your/ourselves.
 
Western nations should heed Russia's legitimate security concerns over the volatile situation in Ukraine, a top Chinese diplomat has said in a rare public statement on the crisis that has damaged relations between Russia and the West.

Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, said the Ukrainian crisis came about due to the ongoing “game”– a metaphor similar to that used by US geopolitical strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who referred to it as the “grand chessboard” – between Russia and the West, which has not abated despite, or because of, the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Arguing that outside interference by various powers inflamed the Ukrainian situation, Xing said Moscow would naturally feel threatened unless Western powers engaged in a more constructive approach.

Xing advised Western powers to “abandon the zero-sum mentality” in their efforts to deal with Moscow and the Ukraine crisis and “take the real security concerns of Russia into consideration," Reuters reported, quoting state news agency Xinhua.

China in the past has urged all involved parties to sit down and negotiate for peace.

The Chinese ambassador, whose Brussels office is in the same city as NATO’s headquarters, then offered some insight as to what motivates the United States on the international stage, and what could lead to its possible decline.

“The United States is unwilling to see its presence in any part of the world being weakened, but the fact is its resources are limited, and it will be to some extent hard work to sustain its influence in external affairs,”he was quoted as saying.

Xing said Washington's involvement in Ukraine could “become a distraction in its foreign policy.”

The Chinese diplomat’s comments represent a sharp departure from the relentless wave of hostile rhetoric coming from the West, which has gone to great lengths to blame Russia as the aggressor in the crisis.

Russia has been accused of arming eastern Ukrainian militia and dispatching soldiers and armaments as reinforcement – claims Moscow has denied on numerous occasions. There were even suggestions that Russia was somehow involved in the downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014.

Despite the extreme nature of the allegations, no substantive evidence has ever been presented to support such claims.

Indeed, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has blamed the United States as being the primary destabilizing factor in Ukraine.

“Through every step, as the crisis has developed, our American colleagues and the EU under their influence have tried to escalate the situation,” Lavrov told participants at the Munich Security Conference earlier this month.

Lavrov pointed to the failure of the EU to engage Russia over Brussels’ efforts to have Ukraine sign an economic association agreement with the bloc; the involvement of Western political figures during the Maidan protests; the failure of the West to condemn Kiev for branding its own citizens “terrorists;” and for supporting a coup that led to the toppling of a democratically elected president.

“The US made it public it brokered the transit of power in Ukraine. But we know perfectly well what exactly happened, who discussed candidates for the future Ukrainian government on the phone, who was at Maidan, and what is going on [in Ukraine] right now,” Lavrov said.

China is a member of BRICS, the economic association that includes Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa.


http://rt.com/news/236127-china-russia-west-ukraine/

What we all forget is that both China and the USSR were quietly sitting watching the US take over of the World for years and years - they know you/us better than you/we know your/ourselves.


well, it kind of mirrors the expansionist doctrines of the soviet era. Eastern european countries were desired to be controlled by stalin to serve as a buffer against europe. Communism, in all its forms was deployed and opposition was crushed...dissenters killed.

today, Ukraine remains a key buffer to, now Putin's, russian strategic spheres.

problem is...stalin's long dead, and eastern european nations, inclusive of Ukraine, dont wish to remain satellites of this now defunct ideology.

:)
 
well, it kind of mirrors the expansionist doctrines of the soviet era. Eastern european countries were desired to be controlled by stalin to serve as a buffer against europe. Communism, in all its forms was deployed and opposition was crushed...dissenters killed.

today, Ukraine remains a key buffer to, now Putin's, russian strategic spheres.

problem is...stalin's long dead, and eastern european nations, inclusive of Ukraine, dont wish to remain satellites of this now defunct ideology.

:)

There is no evidence of Putin wanting to expand Russian territories - business yes but territories not.
If Russia went, militarily, into The Ukraine at breakfast time they would be in Kiev by tea time.
No, instead they are satellites of the US - that is what should not have happened.
 
There is no evidence of Putin wanting to expand Russian territories - business yes but territories not.
If Russia went, militarily, into The Ukraine at breakfast time they would be in Kiev by tea time.
No, instead they are satellites of the US - that is what should not have happened.

er...you might have noted the recent annexation of Crimea..

:)
 
well, it kind of mirrors the expansionist doctrines of the soviet era. Eastern european countries were desired to be controlled by stalin to serve as a buffer against europe. Communism, in all its forms was deployed and opposition was crushed...dissenters killed.

today, Ukraine remains a key buffer to, now Putin's, russian strategic spheres.

problem is...stalin's long dead, and eastern european nations, inclusive of Ukraine, dont wish to remain satellites of this now defunct ideology.

:)

Since I'm a believer in freedom, I totally believe that the people who do wish to remain satellites should be allowed to. People should have some say in what gov't they want to live under. The people should own the gov't, not the other way around.
 
er...you might have noted the recent annexation of Crimea..

:)

It was my understanding that the referendum fell under a particular time frame after the coup which made it legal. If they weren't supposed to be allowed to make their own choice then that's tantamount to slavery.

That would not be a good thing.
 
er...you might have noted the recent annexation of Crimea..

:)

And quite rightly and understandable too imho and many others opinion s too - God the people of Crimea will be thanking the Russian Gods for not having been turned into another US battle field.

You are blinded by emotion and not looking at any practical or geological realities.
 
And quite rightly and understandable too imho and many others opinion s too - God the people of Crimea will be thanking the Russian Gods for not having been turned into another US battle field.

You are blinded by emotion and not looking at any practical or geological realities.

the practical reality os crimea is part of Ukrainian territory.
 
There is no evidence of Putin wanting to expand Russian territories - business yes but territories not.
If Russia went, militarily, into The Ukraine at breakfast time they would be in Kiev by tea time.
No, instead they are satellites of the US - that is what should not have happened.
What should happen is what the Ukranians want. They don't want Putin.
 
i stopped reading the moment you identified "china's top diplomat" as their abassador to . . . belgium??????

i am rolling on the floor laughing.

china's ambassador to belgium is probably even more of a zero than america's ambassador to belgium - and we're both democracies which respect the rule of law and human rights.
 
What should happen is what the Ukranians want. They don't want Putin.

Since Putin was never in the running, he isn't the problem --- The protested against corruption - now they have a double dosage of what they were protesting against with nobs on!
Their Gov is made up of profiteering foreigners - who are slicing up The Ukraine and handing it out in chunks to the highest bidders.
 
Since Putin was never in the running, he isn't the problem --- The protested against corruption - now they have a double dosage of what they were protesting against with nobs on!
Their Gov is made up of profiteering foreigners - who are slicing up The Ukraine and handing it out in chunks to the highest bidders.


perhaps they're emulating The England?

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourki...hip-of-british-assets-has-damaged-our-economy

"What did we sell? Foreign interests bought from us an incredible range of what had previously been owned in Britain. Most of our power generating companies, our airports and ports, our water companies, many of our rail franchises and our chemical, engineering and electronic companies, our merchant banks, an iconic chocolate company - Cadbury, our heavily subsidised wind farms, a vast amount of expensive housingand many, many other assets all disappeared into foreign ownership."
 
perhaps they're emulating The England?

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourki...hip-of-british-assets-has-damaged-our-economy

"What did we sell? Foreign interests bought from us an incredible range of what had previously been owned in Britain. Most of our power generating companies, our airports and ports, our water companies, many of our rail franchises and our chemical, engineering and electronic companies, our merchant banks, an iconic chocolate company - Cadbury, our heavily subsidised wind farms, a vast amount of expensive housingand many, many other assets all disappeared into foreign ownership."

Thatcher -------------------- spit spit
 
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