Clinton Says Obama Should Keep His Promise

[Zam-Zam]

You know it's bad when even your own party starts piling on:


Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should keep his pledge to allow people to keep their current health care plans, if they like them, under Obamacare:

"So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," said Clinton in a recent interview.

Complete text: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html


Will the President listen to the former President, or will he stay the course?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You know it's bad when even your own party starts piling on:


Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should keep his pledge to allow people to keep their current health care plans, if they like them, under Obamacare:

"So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," said Clinton in a recent interview.

Complete text: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html


Will the President listen to the former President, or will he stay the course?

Pretty funny - as if the House Pugs would change the ACA to make it work better.

;-)

 

[NCmusicman]

That's like Bill Clinton saying to Obama, "YOU LIE!" ... I wonder if libs "get it" or it is over their heads beyond their ability to comprehend.

 

[Sickofleft]

You know it's bad when even your own party starts piling on:


Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should keep his pledge to allow people to keep their current health care plans, if they like them, under Obamacare:

"So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," said Clinton in a recent interview.

Complete text: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html


Will the President listen to the former President, or will he stay the course?

Of course. That way Hillary won't have to explain all this in 2016 when she is left with the mess this idiot has caused.

 

[Saladin2]

You Republican Dickheads care what Bill Clinton says?...Yeah sure...But you should, he'll be back in the White House with his wife come 2016...Believe it

 

[Jim Scott]

Bill Clinton is trying to shield his wife, Hillary Rodham, from being associated with the ACA debacle when she runs for the Democrat presidential nomination in '16. Notice that Hillary hasn't said a word about Obamacare.

Clinton has to know that the house of cards that is Obamacare would collapse if everyone who had a health care policy cancelled were able to have those same policies reinstated. The ACA depends on the middle class having to pay a lot more for policies to help fund the losses insurance companies will incur by covering people already sick. Young, healthy people signing up for policies they don't need (along with new taxes included in the ACA) will help fund the subsidies. There is no way 30 million people (or more) can be issued health care policies at little or no cost to them (subsidies, Medicare) without the middle class paying for it, one way or another. I doubt Bill Clinton is unaware of that.

Leftists that will support Obama and the Democrat party no matter what damage they do to people inferring that Republicans should have anything to do with 'fixing' Obamacare ignore the reality that only Democrat senators voted for the ACA back in December, 2009. They could have stopped it then but chose not to do so. Republicans did not want or vote for the ACA and have absolutely no obligation to 'fix' any part of it. The ACA should be repealed. It is a fiasco. America can do better.

Jim

 

[resident_evil]

I hope Obama doesn't keep his promise and I hope the Republicans don't do anything to fix this Frankenstein monster legislation while it's on the operating table. But then I hope the Republicans come up with a real plan other than the crap they've been peddling.

 

[Saladin2]

Republicans can do better????...LOL...What a joke...The Republicans want the system to stay as it is...Insurance providers gauging the American people...Keeping millions uninsured and letting the public pay for their health care...Republicans have NO plan....NO alternative

 

[Arkady]

You know it's bad when even your own party starts piling on:


Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should keep his pledge to allow people to keep their current health care plans, if they like them, under Obamacare:

"So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," said Clinton in a recent interview.

Complete text: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html


Will the President listen to the former President, or will he stay the course?

Do you favor a law mandating that all insurers continue to offer existing policies to people indefinitely, in order to make good on a literal (bone-headed) read of Obama's sales pitch? If so, write to your Congress member to propose such a bill. I'm unaware of anything of the sort on the table, though. All I've heard is talk of letting private insurers pick and choose which policies to continue, cherry-picking the pool and sticking the American taxpayer with subsidizing the insurance of the rest.

 

[Arkady]

Bill Clinton is trying to shield his wife, Hillary Rodham, from being associated with the ACA debacle when she runs for the Democrat presidential nomination in '16. Notice that Hillary hasn't said a word about Obamacare.

Clinton has to know that the house of cards that is Obamacare would collapse if everyone who had a health care policy cancelled were able to have those same policies reinstated. The ACA depends on the middle class having to pay a lot more for policies to help fund the losses insurance companies will incur by covering people already sick. Young, healthy people signing up for policies they don't need (along with new taxes included in the ACA) will help fund the subsidies. There is no way 30 million people (or more) can be issued health care policies at little or no cost to them (subsidies, Medicare) without the middle class paying for it, one way or another. I doubt Bill Clinton is unaware of that.

Leftists that will support Obama and the Democrat party no matter what damage they do to people inferring that Republicans should have anything to do with 'fixing' Obamacare ignore the reality that only Democrat senators voted for the ACA back in December, 2009. They could have stopped it then but chose not to do so. Republicans did not want or vote for the ACA and have absolutely no obligation to 'fix' any part of it. The ACA should be repealed. It is a fiasco. America can do better.

Jim

Are you under the impression Hillary Clinton legally changed her last name back to her maiden name? If not, what's with calling her Hillary Rodham?

 

[Zam-Zam]

Do you favor a law mandating that all insurers continue to offer existing policies to people indefinitely, in order to make good on a literal (bone-headed) read of Obama's sales pitch? If so, write to your Congress member to propose such a bill. I'm unaware of anything of the sort on the table, though. All I've heard is talk of letting private insurers pick and choose which policies to continue, cherry-picking the pool and sticking the American taxpayer with subsidizing the insurance of the rest.

President Clinton seems to favor that. It's funny, I remember some here claiming that the reason some were losing their insurance under ObamaCare was that they had "junk" insurance. If that is the case, does that mean President Clinton is in favor of them continuing to have "junk"insurance?

 

[Zam-Zam]

Bill Clinton is trying to shield his wife, Hillary Rodham, from being associated with the ACA debacle when she runs for the Democrat presidential nomination in '16. Notice that Hillary hasn't said a word about Obamacare.

Clinton has to know that the house of cards that is Obamacare would collapse if everyone who had a health care policy cancelled were able to have those same policies reinstated. The ACA depends on the middle class having to pay a lot more for policies to help fund the losses insurance companies will incur by covering people already sick. Young, healthy people signing up for policies they don't need (along with new taxes included in the ACA) will help fund the subsidies. There is no way 30 million people (or more) can be issued health care policies at little or no cost to them (subsidies, Medicare) without the middle class paying for it, one way or another. I doubt Bill Clinton is unaware of that.

Leftists that will support Obama and the Democrat party no matter what damage they do to people inferring that Republicans should have anything to do with 'fixing' Obamacare ignore the reality that only Democrat senators voted for the ACA back in December, 2009. They could have stopped it then but chose not to do so. Republicans did not want or vote for the ACA and have absolutely no obligation to 'fix' any part of it. The ACA should be repealed. It is a fiasco. America can do better.

Jim

I considered that angle. Things seldom happen in politics for no reason at all, so there must be some reason for Bill Clinton to call out Obama. ObamaCare has thus far been a disaster, and one way for Hillary to distance herself from it is to have her husband tell America that Obama has failed to keep his word and had better rectify it. If she did that herself it might be viewed as a bit unseemly, but Bill provides just enough distance if the message is viewed as over-critical.

That could be it. Or perhaps Bill went after Obama for some other reason, though I can't imagine what it would be.

Either way, I imagine the current occupant of the Oval Office is less than thrilled by Bill's comments.

 

[Arkady]

President Clinton seems to favor that. It's funny, I remember some here claiming that the reason some were losing their insurance under ObamaCare was that they had "junk" insurance. If that is the case, does that mean President Clinton is in favor of them continuing to have "junk"insurance?

Yes, I suppose that's what he's saying. I disagree with it, but the point's moot, anyway, because I can't imagine the Republicans allowing a law that would force private, for-profit companies to extend health insurance policies that are in their financial interest to terminate. Instead, they just want to let the companies pick and choose which of the customers to cherry pick with extended policies, with the dregs falling into the exchanges, which would boost prices and therefore the cost of the subsidies to taxpayers. It's a red herring, and Clinton clearly didn't think this through very well. He's brilliant, but not disciplined -- he regularly thinks out loud and then ends up backtracking. It happens to he best of us.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

President Clinton seems to favor that. It's funny, I remember some here claiming that the reason some were losing their insurance under ObamaCare was that they had "junk" insurance. If that is the case, does that mean President Clinton is in favor of them continuing to have "junk"insurance?

Yes.

That's what the House Pugs want too. They are proposing such a law.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Yes.

That's what the House Pugs want too. They are proposing such a law.

Odd. Arkady posted above you and said quite the opposite:

Yes, I suppose that's what he's saying. I disagree with it, but the point's moot, anyway, because I can't imagine the Republicans allowing a law that would force private, for-profit companies to extend health insurance policies that are in their financial interest to terminate.


One of you must be wrong.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Yes, I suppose that's what he's saying. I disagree with it, but the point's moot, anyway, because I can't imagine the Republicans allowing a law that would force private, for-profit companies to extend health insurance policies that are in their financial interest to terminate. Instead, they just want to let the companies pick and choose which of the customers to cherry pick with extended policies, with the dregs falling into the exchanges, which would boost prices and therefore the cost of the subsidies to taxpayers. It's a red herring, and Clinton clearly didn't think this through very well. He's brilliant, but not disciplined -- he regularly thinks out loud and then ends up backtracking. It happens to he best of us.

Could it be that the 'brilliant' undisciplined man who doesn't think things through was actually being very calculated politically? His wife, who used to be part of the Obama administration, is running for President and would no doubt like to be free of the stench of ObamaCare. What better way to do it than to imply that this President failed to deliver what was promised? Now Hillary can position herself as the person who can fix the mess Obama left behind. If, on the other hand, he were to insist that ObamaCare were all "honky-dory" , that likely would not play well with those who know first-hand it clearly isn't.

You might think Bill bungled this, but these don't have the feel of off-the-guff remarks. I think there's a pretty good chance he thought about this before he said it.

 

[Arkady]

Could it be that the 'brilliant' undisciplined man who doesn't think things through was actually being very calculated politically? His wife, who used to be part of the Obama administration, is running for President and would no doubt like to be free of the stench of ObamaCare. What better way to do it than to imply that this President failed to deliver what was promised? Now Hillary can position herself as the person who can fix the mess Obama left behind. If, on the other hand, he were to insist that ObamaCare were all "honky-dory" , that likely would not play well with those who know first-hand it clearly isn't.

You might think Bill bungled this, but these don't have the feel of off-the-guff remarks. I think there's a pretty good chance he thought about this before he said it.

We'll see, based on whether he sticks to these talking points in the future.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Odd. Arkady posted above you and said quite the opposite:

Yes, I suppose that's what he's saying. I disagree with it, but the point's moot, anyway, because I can't imagine the Republicans allowing a law that would force private, for-profit companies to extend health insurance policies that are in their financial interest to terminate.


One of you must be wrong.

Fascinating, but the Pugs are still proposing such a law in the House. Have you not heard about it?

 

[as seen on tv]

if bill clinton keeps this up, obama might refuse to campaign for hillary in 2016.

wait - that's probably the intent. my bad . . .

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

We'll see, based on whether he sticks to these talking points in the future.

The reality is that Clinton and the Pugs would support different reform laws.

Clinton would support a law to make the ACA work better, and the House Pugs are proposing yet another law to dismantle the ACA, under the guise of allowing people to buy the insurance they had (despite the fact that private insurers are not offering it).