Close for everything that somebody could die from.

[Boltlady]

It certainly would be quiet. There would be no moving vehicles of any kind. People would not seek medical care at all since some 125,000 die from that every year. There would be no swimming anywhere what with all of those drownings. I'm quite sure that y'all can think of all sorts of things that people might die from that we need to avoid at all costs.

Whatcha think?

 

[Dawg]

Yes, park/ban ALL automobiles for 14 days or until no more deaths by automobile, same with swimming pools and Tricycles.

 

[BobbyT]

It certainly would be quiet. There would be no moving vehicles of any kind. People would not seek medical care at all since some 125,000 die from that every year. There would be no swimming anywhere what with all of those drownings. I'm quite sure that y'all can think of all sorts of things that people might die from that we need to avoid at all costs.

Whatcha think?

How about we limit it to highly communicable deadly diseases and devote resources to developing vaccines when they crop up while we work to not spread it around? And when they've not cropped up, continue to be mindful of washing our hands and otherwise acting like we live in large societies and the world is not our toilet, trashcan, spit bucket, ashtray; you know, like most of us already do.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

How about we limit it to highly communicable deadly diseases and devote resources to developing vaccines when they crop up while we work to not spread it around? And when they've not cropped up, continue to be mindful of washing our hands and otherwise acting like we live in large societies and the world is not our toilet, trashcan, spit bucket, ashtray; you know, like most of us already do.

ICU’s bursting at the seams, corpses of dead virus victims stacked in trailers like cord wood because the funeral directors can’t keep up, wingers clueless.

Our new normal.

 

[Colorforms]

How about we limit it to highly communicable deadly diseases and devote resources to developing vaccines when they crop up while we work to not spread it around? And when they've not cropped up, continue to be mindful of washing our hands and otherwise acting like we live in large societies and the world is not our toilet, trashcan, spit bucket, ashtray; you know, like most of us already do.

Haven't come out from under the bed yet? Just a reminder, over 60% of covid hospitalizations in NY were of people who were practicing stay at home. I don't think hiding will do you much good.

 

[Dawg]

How about we limit it to highly communicable deadly diseases and devote resources to developing vaccines when they crop up while we work to not spread it around? And when they've not cropped up, continue to be mindful of washing our hands and otherwise acting like we live in large societies and the world is not our toilet, trashcan, spit bucket, ashtray; you know, like most of us already do.

Yeah, like after Spring Breaks and all those climate change millennials leave tons of trash on beaches or past couple weekends when Coco beach opened and 30+ tons left on the beach...………...yep, I agree most already do as you posted.

 

[Dawg]

Haven't come out from under the bed yet? Just a reminder, over 60% of covid hospitalizations in NY were of people who were practicing stay at home. I don't think hiding will do you much good.

appear many were confined to beds-nursing homes and appears top of deaths in USA

Hey, at least no one dies from heart attacks, cance or automobile accidents anymore!

 

[Colorforms]

appear many were confined to beds-nursing homes and appears top of deaths in USA

Hey, at least no one dies from heart attacks, cance or automobile accidents anymore!

As of March 6, 20k deaths from the flu. Their deaths were acceptable though.

 

[Dawg]

As of March 6, 20k deaths from the flu. Their deaths were acceptable though.

Yep and IMO many more died with flu and declared COVID-19 for the $$$$$$$$$$$$

See many health care employees reporting their hospitals are empty or nothing as being reported.

Hopefully and I'm sure our Lib governor will be voted out in November due to his Hitler bs

 

[BobbyT]

Haven't come out from under the bed yet? Just a reminder, over 60% of covid hospitalizations in NY were of people who were practicing stay at home. I don't think hiding will do you much good.

I'm not hiding nor under the bed. I am however practicing social distancing and wearing a mask when I go out. I still work every day, go to the store when necessary, and go walk around the park with my grandson. It's not useful to look at the number of hospitalizations by whether they were staying at home but rather what would be the number of hospitalizations if no one was doing so.

 

[Dawg]

I'm not hiding nor under the bed. I am however practicing social distancing and wearing a mask when I go out. I still work every day, go to the store when necessary, and go walk around the park with my grandson. It's not useful to look at the number of hospitalizations by whether they were staying at home but rather what would be the number of hospitalizations if no one was doing so.

The curve was flattened, health care was flattened:

Most U.S. hospitals are empty. Soon they might be closed for good | Opinion

Clumsy, if well-intentioned, federal and state directives to halt all non-emergency procedures have created an unprecedented burden of their own design.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Colorforms]

I'm not hiding nor under the bed. I am however practicing social distancing and wearing a mask when I go out. I still work every day, go to the store when necessary, and go walk around the park with my grandson. It's not useful to look at the number of hospitalizations by whether they were staying at home but rather what would be the number of hospitalizations if no one was doing so.

Interesting thought experiment, if you have a 60+% chance of becoming infected practicing stay at home and less than 40% not, which group would you prefer to be in?

 

[BobbyT]

Interesting thought experiment, if you have a 60+% chance of becoming infected practicing stay at home and less than 40% not, which group would you prefer to be in?

Like so many, you have no idea how to think this thru. Without a control group where no one is staying at home, nor any idea of what this self-reported "staying at home" the people who died were doing actually comprised, you're just playing with random meaningless numbers.

 

[Colorforms]

Like so many, you have no idea how to think this thru. Without a control group where no one is staying at home, nor any idea of what this self-reported "staying at home" the people who died were doing actually comprised, you're just playing with random meaningless numbers.

But we do, Cuomo did the study and these are his figures.

NY Gov. Cuomo Surprised to Learn 66% of Hospitalized Were Social-Distancing

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo lamented 66% of coronavirus patients who required hospitalization had been following stay-at-home orders, he revealed during a Wednesday press conference.

www.newsmax.com

So we have our control group, and they are in the same geographic area so we can't use "but that state does it differently" to fall back on.

 

[BobbyT]

But we do, Cuomo did the study and these are his figures.

NY Gov. Cuomo Surprised to Learn 66% of Hospitalized Were Social-Distancing

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo lamented 66% of coronavirus patients who required hospitalization had been following stay-at-home orders, he revealed during a Wednesday press conference.

www.newsmax.com

So we have our control group, and they are in the same geographic area so we can't use "but that state does it differently" to fall back on.

You don't have a control group unless you actually know what they were doing. No one does; they're self-reporting.

 

[resident_evil]

How about we limit it to highly communicable deadly diseases and devote resources to developing vaccines when they crop up while we work to not spread it around? And when they've not cropped up, continue to be mindful of washing our hands and otherwise acting like we live in large societies and the world is not our toilet, trashcan, spit bucket, ashtray; you know, like most of us already do.

You mean, like Korea, Sweden, and Japan??!? Because you know they aren't closed down and are doing reasonably well with those original ideas of yours that Democrat leadership doesn't seem to think their voters are particularly able to handle.

 

[resident_evil]

Like so many, you have no idea how to think this thru. Without a control group where no one is staying at home, nor any idea of what this self-reported "staying at home" the people who died were doing actually comprised, you're just playing with random meaningless numbers.

Like so many who think they have thought this through you have less of a valid idea than @Colorforms who seems to have mindlessly stumbled onto the truth. ha ha

 

[resident_evil]

You don't have a control group unless you actually know what they were doing. No one does; they're self-reporting.

So you're a public health PhD professional for how long now?

 

[Jen]

It certainly would be quiet. There would be no moving vehicles of any kind. People would not seek medical care at all since some 125,000 die from that every year. There would be no swimming anywhere what with all of those drownings. I'm quite sure that y'all can think of all sorts of things that people might die from that we need to avoid at all costs.

Whatcha think?

We are going to come close to that if the Democrats have their way.

The Democrats have been actively trying to take down the USA since at least Obama's presidency ......maybe before that.

They have demonstrated that they will stop at nothing to make the country fail. This latest covid thing is designed specifically to ruin the economy, and spread hate, discontent, depression, suicide, and every bad thing imaginable. It has been no accident.

Obama came in as president saying he wanted to "fundamentally transform" America and it was obvious that he was taking it down in every thing he did. That transformation was slowed down by the election of Trump. Covid has started it up again. This is what Obama's "fundamental transformation" looks like. This and more of the same (like you described, @Boltlady ).

It's not looking like anyone has the heart and soul to stop the take down of our nation. Trump can't do it alone and everyone else is just talking about it. Talking won't fix anything at this point.

 

[now_what]

We are going to come close to that if the Democrats have their way.

The Democrats have been actively trying to take down the USA since at least Obama's presidency ......maybe before that.

They have demonstrated that they will stop at nothing to make the country fail. This latest covid thing is designed specifically to ruin the economy, and spread hate, discontent, depression, suicide, and every bad thing imaginable. It has been no accident.

Obama came in as president saying he wanted to "fundamentally transform" America and it was obvious that he was taking it down in every thing he did. That transformation was slowed down by the election of Trump. Covid has started it up again. This is what Obama's "fundamental transformation" looks like. This and more of the same (like you described, @Boltlady ).

It's not looking like anyone has the heart and soul to stop the take down of our nation. Trump can't do it alone and everyone else is just talking about it. Talking won't fix anything at this point.

Trump is willing to sacrifice American lives for an election. His personal finances mean more to have that the lives of our citizens. Shame on him and any pathetic PoS that supports him. Period.