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Is this an outrage, concerning, or much ado about nothing?

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resident_evil said:
http://www.klfy.com/category/168153...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9321426

Is this an outrage, concerning, or much ado about nothing?
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The ongoing march of federalizing/centralizing everything continues unabated. I've heard all the arguments about consolidating standards, making curricula more portable/transferable across the states, etc. The bottom line is that I generally oppose the never ending chain of national control of things. Ideally, I'd like to see the fifty states each elevate standards. States need more control in managing agendas locally. Not every dang thing needs to emanate from Washington D.C.

Often my objections to agenda are less about the content than the methodology and philosophy of implementation.
 
Common Core is an attempt by the Governors of the various states to implement a nationwide enhancement of our public school curricula.

Because it is a proposal that would affect all states equally, it is being attacked by right-wing ideologues in an attempt to portray the plan as yet another affront to state's rights. Of course, this argument is absurd on it's face, but logic doesn't enter into partisan politics -- the good of the nation be damned.

This is federalism, so therefore, it is evil. That's all you need to know about Common Core.
 
NightSwimmer said:
Common Core is an attempt by the Governors of the various states to implement a nationwide enhancement of our public school curricula.

Because it is a proposal that would affect all states equally, it is being attacked by right-wing ideologues in an attempt to portray the plan as yet another affront to state's rights. Of course, this argument is absurd on it's face, but logic doesn't enter into partisan politics -- the good of the nation be damned.

This is federalism, so therefore, it is evil. That's all you need to know about Common Core.
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People are going to take their kids back from the state.
 
resident_evil said:
People are going to take their kids back from the state.
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Yes. I know...
 
RickWA said:
The ongoing march of federalizing/centralizing everything continues unabated. I've heard all the arguments about consolidating standards, making curricula more portable/transferable across the states, etc. The bottom line is that I generally oppose the never ending chain of national control of things. Ideally, I'd like to see the fifty states each elevate standards. States need more control in managing agendas locally. Not every dang thing needs to emanate from Washington D.C.

Often my objections to agenda are less about the content than the methodology and philosophy of implementation.
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The content is pretty important too. Take a look at the link I'm including and you will see that see that students are being taught things that are not true but are things the federal gov't would like them to believe. If this was all implemented on a national level it would be more difficult for corrections to be made by those who want the truth taught instead of propaganda.

Kind of reminds me of how the Germans wanted their young people taught a long time ago.

Exclusive: School Teaches Students it’s Constitutional for Cops to Confiscate Guns | Ben Swann Reality Check
 
Boltlady said:
The content is pretty important too. Take a look at the link I'm including and you will see that see that students are being taught things that are not true but are things the federal gov't would like them to believe. If this was all implemented on a national level it would be more difficult for corrections to be made by those who want the truth taught instead of propaganda.

Kind of reminds me of how the Germans wanted their young people taught a long time ago.

Exclusive: School Teaches Students it’s Constitutional for Cops to Confiscate Guns | Ben Swann Reality Check
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The link makes you wonder what role teachers have here. Co-conspirators or victims of brain washing.
 
Boltlady,

You are exactly the type of know-nothing person who made Hitler's rise to power possible. Without irrational fear among the populace, such movements are doomed to failure from the outset.
 
NightSwimmer said:
Boltlady,

You are exactly the type of know-nothing person who made Hitler's rise to power possible. Without irrational fear among the populace, such movements are doomed to failure from the outset.
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You'd make people frogs in a pot and turn the temperature up slowly Swimmer. Nobody is buying what you have to sell.
 
resident_evil said:
The link makes you wonder what role teachers have here. Co-conspirators or victims of brain washing.
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By keeping the wages relatively low for teaching you aren't always going to get really high caliber people. (There are exceptions of course.) You would have a lot of them anxious to keep their jobs even if it means what to them might be a bit of 'fudging' of the facts. That combined with the brain washing would achieve the desired effects.
 
Boltlady said:
By keeping the wages relatively low for teaching you aren't always going to get really high caliber people. (There are exceptions of course.) You would have a lot of them anxious to keep their jobs even if it means what to them might be a bit of 'fudging' of the facts. That combined with the brain washing would achieve the desired effects.
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Most of my teachers were apolitical (actually all were apolitical in class). They simply taught. I had a great PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION. The system needs to be reclaimed.
 
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resident_evil said:
You'd make people frogs in a pot and turn the temperature up slowly Swimmer. Nobody is buying what you have to sell.
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I'm not selling anything. If I had the cure for stupidity, then I'd be making a fortune. Unfortunately, while ignorance can be remedied, I'm afraid that there is no cure for stupid.
 
NightSwimmer said:
I'm not selling anything. If I had the cure for stupidity, then I'd be making a fortune. Unfortunately, while ignorance can be remedied, I'm afraid that there is no cure for stupid.
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And you're the arbiter of stupid. Why is it that the liberals around here jump to stupid, dumbass, or fool faster than anybody else? Why do they all think themselves so damned smart?
 
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