New Posts
By:
Filters
  • Hi there guest! Welcome to PoliticalJack.com. Register for free to join our community?

Common ground

bdtex

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
On domestic matters,and occasionally in foreign policy matters,I found some common ground with Pres. George W. Bush.

Found some today with President Trump.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346929-trump-revives-defense-of-confederate-monuments

"Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You.....can't change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who's next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also...the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!"
 
when the Taliban rose to power in Afghanistan (and probably other places) one of their first tasks was to destroy any statuary or other artifacts from pre-Islamic times.

because that "old stuff" was offensive to them, and immoral
 
Hell, they don't have to protest in some places anymore to have them removed. We now have Baltimore officials doing it for them....and we'll see more of that, just to keep the haters from destroying their cities. Just unbelievable!
 
I completely agree. Even if someone put up a statue honoring Osama bin Laden, I can't see myself wanting to destroy it or even try to force them to take it down. We are talking about inanimate objects that have no power over... well, no power over most people. I still don't understand how someone could be so consumed over a statue that they risk arrest to destroy it.
 
I visited my grandmothers house for many years. It was across the street from a statue and pavilion of General George Armstrong Custer.

One summer an Indian tribe had a ceremony there where I watched them throw a jar of urine on the Custer statue.

He killed a lot of Indians so I'm sure it will be taken down soon.

Someone I was reading said Martin Luther King was against gay marriage. So I'm sure his statue will be taken down soon.

Soon there will be no statues because one silly group or another will disagree with at least one belief the statued person had.

Pretty sad.

Not one person alive today had slaves or fought in the civil war yet somehow know whats right when it comes to what statues should be taken down. They most likely have no clue on why the statue was put up in the first place.
 
SW48 said:
I visited my grandmothers house for many years. It was across the street from a statue and pavilion of General George Armstrong Custer.

One summer an Indian tribe had a ceremony there where I watched them throw a jar of urine on the Custer statue.

He killed a lot of Indians so I'm sure it will be taken down soon.

Someone I was reading said Martin Luther King was against gay marriage. So I'm sure his statue will be taken down soon.

Soon there will be no statues because one silly group or another will disagree with at least one belief the statued person had.

Pretty sad.

Not one person alive today had slaves or fought in the civil war yet somehow know whats right when it comes to what statues should be taken down. They most likely have no clue on why the statue was put up in the first place.
Click to expand...

Excellent. It's hard to imagine any statue that can be left standing in this Brave New World.
 
as seen on tv said:
when the Taliban rose to power in Afghanistan (and probably other places) one of their first tasks was to destroy any statuary or other artifacts from pre-Islamic times.

because that "old stuff" was offensive to them, and immoral
Click to expand...
Yes, like that but more like a Maoist Cultural Revolution with Antifa playing the role of the communists.
 
bdtex said:
Not one person alive was a slave or is a child of a slave either.
Click to expand...

You reminded me of this kid in grade school. I remember him saying, more than once, "my grandparents were slaves".

Ummm.... so what? My grandfather was a drunk and a child molester. Why would I let that define me????
 
resident_evil said:
If a bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest was put in your capitol building in 1978 and you were black would that be acceptable?
Click to expand...
If it wasn't acceptable to me,climbing up on a ladder,throwing a rope around it and pulling it down with a truck wouldn't be acceptable either.
 
bdtex said:
On domestic matters,and occasionally in foreign policy matters,I found some common ground with Pres. George W. Bush.

Found some today with President Trump.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346929-trump-revives-defense-of-confederate-monuments

"Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You.....can't change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson - who's next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also...the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!"
Click to expand...

Yes, Washington and Jefferson are indeed next, at least according to this nutjob in Chicago. I expect the left will be looking to blow up Mt. Rushmore, Taliban-style, by mid-September.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/
 
I have stayed away from the racial aspect of the monuments. But that is not to say there is not a racial component to the erecting of these statues. There appears to be a definite pattern with a message.

blog_confederate_monuments2.gif


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/the-real-story-of-all-those-confederate-statues/
 
bdtex said:
If it wasn't acceptable to me,climbing up on a ladder,throwing a rope around it and pulling it down with a truck wouldn't be acceptable either.
Click to expand...
Many items of Confederate iconography were put up at the height of 20th century Jim Crowe laws and as responses to Civil Rights legislation. If you're arguing rule of law in the matter I agree. When those things are voted off the public square that would be that.

I can only hope that the voting is done with a great deal of reason and care for history and its lessons.
 
The Thinker said:
I completely agree. Even if someone put up a statue honoring Osama bin Laden, I can't see myself wanting to destroy it or even try to force them to take it down. We are talking about inanimate objects that have no power over... well, no power over most people. I still don't understand how someone could be so consumed over a statue that they risk arrest to destroy it.
Click to expand...
And mark a place in history
So truly shortsighted and selfish.
SB
 
SW48 said:
I visited my grandmothers house for many years. It was across the street from a statue and pavilion of General George Armstrong Custer.

One summer an Indian tribe had a ceremony there where I watched them throw a jar of urine on the Custer statue.

He killed a lot of Indians so I'm sure it will be taken down soon.

Someone I was reading said Martin Luther King was against gay marriage. So I'm sure his statue will be taken down soon.

Soon there will be no statues because one silly group or another will disagree with at least one belief the statued person had.

Pretty sad.

Not one person alive today had slaves or fought in the civil war yet somehow know whats right when it comes to what statues should be taken down. They most likely have no clue on why the statue was put up in the first place.
Click to expand...
I once saw a t-shirt in a Native American gift shop that said "Custer got Siouxed."
 
resident_evil said:
If you're arguing rule of law in the matter I agree.
Click to expand...
I am indeed,including elections. In another thread,I threw out an electoral question to my friends on the left. I asked if they think this monuments stuff helps Dems win in Wisconsin,Michigan,Pennsylvania,Florida and NC in 2020? I don't think so. As a matter of fact,I think it will hurt Dems in November 2018. Trump's people will be there voting.
 
bdtex said:
I am indeed,including elections. In another thread,I threw out an electoral question to my friends on the left. I asked if they think this monuments stuff helps Dems win in Wisconsin,Michigan,Pennsylvania,Florida and NC in 2020? I don't think so. As a matter of fact,I think it will hurt Dems in November 2018. Trump's people will be there voting.
Click to expand...

I agree. I can't see how a political party endorsing Taliban-like destruction of national historical artifacts can in any way help that party win an election. As the Republicans found out in 2012, simply hating the president passionately is not a path to victory.
 
bdtex said:
I am indeed,including elections. In another thread,I threw out an electoral question to my friends on the left. I asked if they think this monuments stuff helps Dems win in Wisconsin,Michigan,Pennsylvania,Florida and NC in 2020? I don't think so. As a matter of fact,I think it will hurt Dems in November 2018. Trump's people will be there voting.
Click to expand...
Trump just tweeted in response to the terrorist attack in Spain. His tweet apparently perpetuates a falsehood (according to Fox) that Pershing lined up 50 Muslims and shot 49 of them with pigs blood dipped bullets and that terrorism stopped for a couple of decades because the 5oth was set free to warn the others.

If he keeps this up he'll be effectively impeached at the end of his four years if not sooner. Especially if the Dimms don't put up a communist candidate themselves.

Too bad because I believe ALL illegals have to be deported, that Obamacare is stealth communism, that China is engaged in trade warfare with the U.S., that Islamists along with communists and Nazis should be banned from entering the U.S., and that manufacturing has to be returned to the U.S. among many other things Trump seems sympathetic to. But Trump and the Alt-right are trashing the moral standing of such policy preferences in reality or effect.
 
resident_evil said:
Trump just tweeted in response to the terrorist attack in Spain. His tweet apparently perpetuates a falsehood (according to Fox) that Pershing lined up 50 Muslims and shot 49 of them with pigs blood dipped bullets and that terrorism stopped for a couple of decades because the 5oth was set free to warn the others.
Click to expand...
Who. Hadn't seen that. Black Jack Pershing did that? I'm sure his new Chief of Staff appreciated that remark.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Back
Top