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Lessons from a century of communism

Today is the 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik seizure of power, which led to the establishment of a communist regime in Russia and eventually in many other nations around the world. It is an appropriate time to remember the vast tide of oppression, tyranny, and mass murder that communist regimes unleashed upon the world. While historians and others have documented numerous communist atrocities, much of the public remains unaware of their enormous scale. It is also a good time to consider what lessons we can learn from this horrendous history.

I. A Record of Mass Murder and Oppression.
Collectively, communist states killed as many as 100 million people, more than all other repressive regimes combined during the same time period. By far the biggest toll arose from communist efforts to collectivize agriculture and eliminate independent property-owning peasants. In China alone, Mao Zedong’s Great Leap Forward led to a man-made famine in which as many as 45 million people perished – the single biggest episode of mass murder in all of world history. In the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin’s collectivization – which served as a model for similar efforts in China and elsewhere – took some 6 to 10 million lives. Mass famines occurred in many other communist regimes, ranging from North Korea to Ethiopia. In each of these cases, communist rulers were well aware that their policies were causing mass death, and in each they persisted nonetheless, often because they considered the extermination of “Kulak” peasants a feature rather than a bug.



Complete text: Lessons from a century of communism - The Washington Post


There is no defense for communism, other than to lie about it.
Oh look! The reight wing is trying to smooth right into looking like any ordinary family--as if you wouldn't be noticed.

o_O
 
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Zam-Zam

Senator
Yet you can't comprehend the meaning of the article.

It was talking about you and your ilk..
Communism is generally considered a leftist political system.

a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.See also Marxism.

Thanks for stopping by. Say hi to your ilk.
 

write on

Senator
Communism is generally considered a leftist political system.

a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.See also Marxism.

Thanks for stopping by. Say hi to your ilk.
"class war"...while the right wing poor will go to their grave starving just to prove a point.

Hey ZZ., take notice...


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EatTheRich

President
That's pathetic. The advance of communism in all cases is by way of death. Millions of them. Downplaying is simply pathetic
Yes, every advance in class society has been by way of mass death. The imperialist world order we live in today was created by the Crusades and other European wars of religion, the colonial conquests, the Native American genocides among many, slavery, the American Revolution, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII, to name a few of its bloody foundations. The fight against communism is the last chance the ruling billionaires have to preserve the kind of world that makes violence the cost of progress, and they will fight with every means at their disposal to defend it. Thus they hurl themselves with a hellish fury at the workers' states, and in the international revolution's infancy they are able to take control of governments that formally belong to those workers' states and wield them as instruments of the counterrevolutionary terror, as in Stalin's bloody assault on communism.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
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Yes, every advance in class society has been by way of mass death. The imperialist world order we live in today was created by the Crusades and other European wars of religion, the colonial conquests, the Native American genocides among many, slavery, the American Revolution, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII, to name a few of its bloody foundations. The fight against communism is the last chance the ruling billionaires have to preserve the kind of world that makes violence the cost of progress, and they will fight with every means at their disposal to defend it. Thus they hurl themselves with a hellish fury at the workers' states, and in the international revolution's infancy they are able to take control of governments that formally belong to those workers' states and wield them as instruments of the counterrevolutionary terror, as in Stalin's bloody assault on communism.
Difficult stuff for sure. And still ...communism must be squelched absolutely
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Difficult stuff for sure. And still ...communism must be squelched absolutely
And I believe it will be in time.

As a form of government, is must be imposed on a people and maintained through an authoritarian military force, a sure indication of how unpopular it is with the people it purports to benefit.
 

PhilFish

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And I believe it will be in time.

As a form of government, is must be imposed on a people and maintained through an authoritarian military force, a sure indication of how unpopular it is with the people it purports to benefit.
Correct. China is no good example. Cuba is no good example.
 

EatTheRich

President
And I believe it will be in time.

As a form of government, is must be imposed on a people and maintained through an authoritarian military force, a sure indication of how unpopular it is with the people it purports to benefit.
What form of government isn’t, besides the anarchy that the communist advance prepares the objective economic grounds for?
 

EatTheRich

President
No one will miss communism when it's gone, save a few despots.
It has to arrive first. Places like the Soviet Union were not communist, they were societies that had taken the first political steps toward building communism but that were everywhere marked by the stamp of their capitalist origins, and much more like the capitalist states beside them than like the communist world of the future. But of course even their semi-socialism was desperately missed by majorities or near-majorities throughout Eastern Europe when capitalism was restored by massive violence against the general public.
 

PhilFish

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Certainly the all-out wars against communism by the Allied Expeditionary Force, the Stalinist regime, and the Nazis and their allies led to extreme destabilization, no?
in addition to communism collapsng under itself due to it's failure as a system... yes.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
It has to arrive first. Places like the Soviet Union were not communist, they were societies that had taken the first political steps toward building communism but that were everywhere marked by the stamp of their capitalist origins, and much more like the capitalist states beside them than like the communist world of the future. But of course even their semi-socialism was desperately missed by majorities or near-majorities throughout Eastern Europe when capitalism was restored by massive violence against the general public.
Since the record of communism is so undeniably horrendous, you are left with only denying its existence.

That says it all.
 

EatTheRich

President
Since the record of communism is so undeniably horrendous, you are left with only denying its existence.

That says it all.
Actually existing socialism is not communism. It is, as I said, the first step toward communism. And it retains many of the horrors of capitalism. That said, I’d put its record against capitalism’s record any day.
 
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