Conservatives think about this for a minute

[justoffal]

For some time now I have predicted that the SCOTUS would side step the decision making process behind the National Healthcare issue and till this morning I thought that my viewpoint had been vindicated...it appeared that they simply passed it along to the voters in November.

But wait...an important change has indeed been made to the issue at large. The ruling did not prohibit the Federal Government from the coercion segment of this law insofar as it appears to be within the Government's powers of Taxation to determine the cost of a national policy and then seek to fund that policy....this pretty much closes down the commerce clause argument from the public opinion Standpoint which would have been an obvious overstep of Government Authority.

By prodding this thing along into the light of NEW TAXATION.....Roberts may have subtly dressed this thing up as dog food for the hungry wolves of November. After all, why should the SCOTUS stand in front of the firing squad of left wing OPINE and HATRED when a defeat at the poles in November will do the same thing anyway?

It's a thought.

JO

 

[Bluedog]

I still find it ironic that with a majority of people against the PPACA mandate, Congress still passed the legislation. Nice to know our elected officials can do as they please.

:noidea:

 

[NightSwimmer]

"a defeat at the poles"?



Freudian slip?

 

[Colorforms]

Worse than that, the Roberts court now made it possible that the high court can rewrite laws in order to help them to comply with the constitution.

Many precidents were set yesterday.

 

[GordonGecko]

See?

I knew the ruling was "really GOOD news for our side!!!!"


(It helps when you remember the Right never actually admit defeat. )

 

[NightSwimmer]

Defeat only exists within the reality-based realm.

 

[justoffal]

Well....the states can opt out...which is basically what they wanted in the law suit....
Roberts invalidated the commerce clause angle and squarely frames Obama-care as a power of taxation right that the congress can indeed levy.

I dunno...is this really a victory for Obama or has Roberts simply placed the looney tunes anvil on the other side of the red cape?

It's kinda like selling a tire with a stipulation that it is not to be inflated.

It would appear that Robert's style of Jurisprudence from the SOTUS bench in minimal involvement with maximum impact.

 

[justoffal]

The states wanted to opt out....they were told they could not....now the SCOTUS has told them that they can. How is that a defeat?

 

[justoffal]

Yep....that's pretty much what we saw yesterday...a rewrite of the law.

This think is a ticking time bomb no?

 

[justoffal]

You know....Roberts may have played their bullheadedness against them yesterday simply by getting out of the way and allowing them to charge like over testicled bulls right into the arms of public anger.

Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.

JO

 

[justoffal]

Yes well..ahem...

That's not exactly a defeat now is it??!!

 

[justoffal]

Roberts actually gave everybody some of what they wanted. The White house wanted to bask in the light of affirmation....they got that....the states wanted to opt out...they got that...
The Supreme court did not want to get in between the voters and the white house....They got that.

Bwahahahahahaha....it's beginning to take shape.......

In effect Roberts is telling both DC and the Voters....this is YOUR pissing contest....not mine.

JO

 

[GordonGecko]

Defeat only exists within the reality-based realm.

Actually not being able to admit defeat...shows how fragile as crystal their faith in their politics is

 

[GordonGecko]

Yes well..ahem...

That's not exactly a defeat now is it??!!

Never COULD be, could it, J_O.....to ONCE admit the Hard Right lost something...would shatter the glass.

 

[NightSwimmer]

In effect Roberts is telling both DC and the Voters....this is YOUR pissing contest....not mine.

JO

At least he's being consistent. That's more than can be said for any of the other RW appointees to the court.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

They don't look Polish to me. I think they're Swedish. But either way, they're lookin' mighty fine!

 

[TomFitz]

And an irrelevant one.

Supreme Court justices are appointed for life. It isn't as if they're going to get turned out in the next election.

 

[bdtex]

The White House wanted more than your rose-colored glasses view of what they wanted and they go it. Other than that,you're pretty much right except for impugning what you think are Roberts' motives on the other 4 Justices in the majority.