Conservatives, What do White American Liberals have to be "guilty" about?

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

White American progressives help people of all colors and genders and sexual preferences and political affiliation and state of health and willingness to give and ability to love...

What the fvck do these Americans have to feel "guilty" about?

If anything, through out the history of this country it's conservatives who've fought against them...

For that there's no doubt conservatives are guilty ....

and proud of it...

Your take?

Regards

 

[Charcat]

My take is that white American liberals have kept the African-Americans from attaining the goals we all seek by making so many of them reliant on white American liberals.

You have convinced them that we owe them something, that they can't accomplish what the rest of us can without help.

You have convinced them that if they can't or won't work, no problem.

You have succeeded in making them think that as black people, they are not able to do what the white people can.

You have taken away their incentives to better themselves, seek higher education and to free themselves of the form of slavery that you know you hold over them.

Since this has been going on for generations, we have new generations who know nothing else, which makes it harder for each succeeding generation to get out of the trap that has been set for them.

You like to call conservatives racist, but the truth is that you are the ones that are stopping "progress."

If I was a black American, I would be insulted to the core with your tactics. Who is the real racist?

 

[ITALIA]

Oh yeah, whatever.:deadhorse::violin::deadhorse::violin::crazy::loco::amen:

 

[Charcat]

Your response was interesting. I corresponded for years with an ultra liberal in Minnesota. His take was ''what the hell, throw them some money and it keeps em quiet and stops them from causing too much trouble." Is that your take? Be honest...

I think it is EXACTLY the liberal viewpoint. Besides the fact that it helps garner votes.

 

[SandyinTex]

White American progressives help people of all colors and genders and sexual preferences and political affiliation and state of health and willingness to give and ability to love...

What the fvck do these Americans have to feel "guilty" about?

If anything, through out the history of this country it's conservatives who've fought against them...

For that there's no doubt conservatives are guilty ....

and proud of it...

Your take?

Regards

They have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. This is just the Cons defining the Democrats. If they spent more time worrying about themselves instead of living in La La Land people might stop laughing behind their hands at them. LOL

 

[Friday13]

 

[BobbyT]

My take is that white American liberals have kept the African-Americans from attaining the goals we all seek by making so many of them reliant on white American liberals.

You have convinced them that we owe them something, that they can't accomplish what the rest of us can without help.

You have convinced them that if they can't or won't work, no problem.

You have succeeded in making them think that as black people, they are not able to do what the white people can.

You have taken away their incentives to better themselves, seek higher education and to free themselves of the form of slavery that you know you hold over them.

Since this has been going on for generations, we have new generations who know nothing else, which makes it harder for each succeeding generation to get out of the trap that has been set for them.

You like to call conservatives racist, but the truth is that you are the ones that are stopping "progress."

If I was a black American, I would be insulted to the core with your tactics. Who is the real racist?

I think it's very interesting that you think African Americans are so gullible. You apparenty think that 'liberals' can CONVINCE them about themselves. Do you not believe African Americans have critical thinking skills? Do you not believe any African Americans can think independently of some monolithic group to which you apparently believe they belong? Do you not believe that African Americans can be motivated by the incentives of personal growth, enrichment, and achievements? It appears to me that your beliefs about African Americans, as represented by your post, are that African Americans are .... oh what's the word I'm looking for....... childlike? Try this on for size: ALL people in poverty, independent of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, tend to have a more difficult time navigating the "middle class" mindset of education = success. Why do conservatives want to badly to ascribe to African Americans only the difficulties faced by people who are born into poverty? And please, PLEASE do not innundate me with anectodal stories about someone you know who was born to poverty who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Yes that happens. Guess what, it happens. African Americans do it too.

 

[JackDallas]

White American progressives help people of all colors and genders and sexual preferences and political affiliation and state of health and willingness to give and ability to love...
What the fvck do these Americans have to feel "guilty" about?
If anything, through out the history of this country it's conservatives who've fought against them...
For that there's no doubt conservatives are guilty ....
and proud of it...
Your take?
Regards

First off, you are expressing a false premise. Liberals are not real Americans. Their greatest transgression, in my opinion, is treason. Liberals have turned against what used to be their country as well and are now like a cancer, eating away at the American life. Your guilt should be from betraying your country.

 

[BobbyT]

First off, you are expressing a false premise. Liberals are not real Americans. Their greatest transgression, in my opinion, is treason. Liberals have turned against what used to be their country as well and are now like a cancer, eating away at the American life. Your guilt should be from betraying your country.

What's your definition of a real American, Jack? Someone who agrees with your views? BTW, do you know what the definition of treason is?

 

[JackDallas]

Anyone but a Liberal

 

[Dino]

You statement is based upon a complete fallacy. You'd have to go a measurable distance towards proving "White American progressives" help or have helped anyone before any such absolution of their guilt is possible.

Then comes the second fallacy, that conservatives have worked against these same groups. The concept is totally preposterous. The conservatives are more apt to foster a spirit of freedom and opportunity. The progressive movement has been successful at keeping people stuck right in their place, and affording very little social upward miobility.

 

[Charcat]

I think it's very interesting that you think African Americans are so gullible. You apparenty think that 'liberals' can CONVINCE them about themselves. Do you not believe African Americans have critical thinking skills? Do you not believe any African Americans can think independently of some monolithic group to which you apparently believe they belong? Do you not believe that African Americans can be motivated by the incentives of personal growth, enrichment, and achievements? It appears to me that your beliefs about African Americans, as represented by your post, are that African Americans are .... oh what's the word I'm looking for....... childlike? Try this on for size: ALL people in poverty, independent of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, tend to have a more difficult time navigating the "middle class" mindset of education = success. Why do conservatives want to badly to ascribe to African Americans only the difficulties faced by people who are born into poverty? And please, PLEASE do not innundate me with anectodal stories about someone you know who was born to poverty who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Yes that happens. Guess what, it happens. African Americans do it too.

Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which was long overdue) passed, many African Americans have done much to change their lives for the better. Unfortunately, many more have not. The opportunities are there for them, but too many of them have learned to live by government handout. It is a learned behavior (not necessarily gullibility) contibuted to by liberal mindsets convincing them that they can't do it themselves. They can. Give them the chance--on their own merits and not with affirmative action, which many times just adds to the problems. Unless you are SURE that they cannot do it, stop what you contribute to. Can't you see the hypocrisy?

Yes, I could give you anecdotes, but about black people that I know who have gotten out of that form of slavery. It's possible you have some anecdotes that may be very similar. The difference is that I KNOW they can succeed. And stop telling them they are disadvantaged, because that tells me that what you are saying is that the color of their skin makes them inferior, and it does not.

 

[BobbyT]

Anyone but a Liberal

Ahhhhh, the whole "free speech is good except when people disagree with me" conservative stance on the constitution. How uber American values of you, LOL.

 

[ITALIA]

You statement is based upon a complete fallacy. You'd have to go a measurable distance towards proving "White American progressives" help or have helped anyone before any such absolution of their guilt is possible.

Then comes the second fallacy, that conservatives have worked against these same groups. The concept is totally preposterous. The conservatives are more apt to foster a spirit of freedom and opportunity. The progressive movement has been successful at keeping people stuck right in their place, and affording very little social upward miobility.

Was the pre-civil rights South(1865-1965) progressive or conservative?

 

[ITALIA]

Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which was long overdue) passed, many African Americans have done much to change their lives for the better. Unfortunately, many more have not. The opportunities are there for them, but too many of them have learned to live by government handout. It is a learned behavior (not necessarily gullibility) contibuted to by liberal mindsets convincing them that they can't do it themselves. They can. Give them the chance--on their own merits and not with affirmative action, which many times just adds to the problems. Unless you are SURE that they cannot do it, stop what you contribute to. Can't you see the hypocrisy?

Yes, I could give you anecdotes, but about black people that I know who have gotten out of that form of slavery. It's possible you have some anecdotes that may be very similar. The difference is that I KNOW they can succeed. And stop telling them they are disadvantaged, because that tells me that what you are saying is that the color of their skin makes them inferior, and it does not.

Many, many more white people have "learned to live by government handout". Your words.

 

[BobbyT]

Since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which was long overdue) passed, many African Americans have done much to change their lives for the better. Unfortunately, many more have not. The opportunities are there for them, but too many of them have learned to live by government handout. It is a learned behavior (not necessarily gullibility) contibuted to by liberal mindsets convincing them that they can't do it themselves. They can. Give them the chance--on their own merits and not with affirmative action, which many times just adds to the problems. Unless you are SURE that they cannot do it, stop what you contribute to. Can't you see the hypocrisy?

Yes, I could give you anecdotes, but about black people that I know who have gotten out of that form of slavery. It's possible you have some anecdotes that may be very similar. The difference is that I KNOW they can succeed. And stop telling them they are disadvantaged, because that tells me that what you are saying is that the color of their skin makes them inferior, and it does not.

How quaint and retro you are with your "them" and "those." And YOU know they can succeed (but they don't?)! How paternalistic of you. So gosh, "liberals'" contributions to African Americans is a 'form of slavery.' Do you know how disgusting that particular analogy is? I know it is au courant with conservatives right now, but really - think about it for a second. You're attempting to equate the inability to make free decisions about ones life, livelihood, family, children, body, etc., etc. with legal proscriptions AGAINST legal discrimination in hiring, housing, and education? One of the most egrigious examples of conservative doublespeak I've witnessed thus far.

 

[Charcat]

Many, many more white people have "learned to live by government handout". Your words.

True. I don't dispute that at all.

How quaint and retro you are with your "them" and "those." And YOU know they can succeed (but they don't?)! How paternalistic of you. So gosh, "liberals'" contributions to African Americans is a 'form of slavery.' Do you know how disgusting that particular analogy is? I know it is au courant with conservatives right now, but really - think about it for a second. You're attempting to equate the inability to make free decisions about ones life, livelihood, family, children, body, etc., etc. with legal proscriptions AGAINST legal discrimination in hiring, housing, and education? One of the most egrigious examples of conservative doublespeak I've witnessed thus far.

Pure liberal babble. The laws have been on the books for 50 YEARS. Martin Luther King himself stated to judge people on their merits, not their color. These "liberal contributions" have done nothing to solve the problems.

 

[BobbyT]

True. I don't dispute that at all.



Pure liberal babble. The laws have been on the books for 50 YEARS. Martin Luther King himself stated to judge people on their merits, not their color. These "liberal contributions" have done nothing to solve the problems.

How the hell would you know if these "liberal contributions" have done anything or not? Able to see alternative universes are you? You know the reason you call it liberal babble? Because you know damn well it's the truth and you can do nothing to refute it. You are the one who insists on seeing people as "other," deal with it.

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

First off, you are expressing a false premise. Liberals are not real Americans. Their greatest transgression, in my opinion, is treason. Liberals have turned against what used to be their country as well and are now like a cancer, eating away at the American life. Your guilt should be from betraying your country.

Betraying the country = keeping people eligible to vote from voting by making $hit up...

That's treason....

You support these people,

thx

 

[YouCantHandleDaTruth]

You statement is based upon a complete fallacy. ..

Please......Conservatives mention "white guilt" all the time...now kkkons want to feign ignorance