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oicu812

oicu812

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A subject i dont believe i have seen mentioned in any "green" blurbs, blogs, posts, is the impact tradional burying has on the enviroment...think about it...embalming pumps toxic chemicals into the corpse to retard decomposition,,then the body is placed in a metal/wood box inside a metal/concrete burial vault that is then placed in the ground...the body then decays, the embalming fluids eventually find their way to the ground outside the burial vault and into the soil/watertable..not to mention the chemicals/materials the casket/vaults are made of...millions of tons of toxic waste, every year stuffed in the ground...ground that could be better utilized for any number of better reasons...and, as the nation ages, the problem keeps increasing..


Cremation is a "green" alternative..
1. no chemicals polluting the earth from embalming, or chems in caskets
2. land used to store the dead is freed for "greener" purposes. less water needed for grass..
3. the cremated bodies can be used to fire steam generators to convert to electricity ensuring that everyone, eventually will contribute to reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, {coal, crude}.
4. cremations cost by far less, and the savings can help support the grief stricken family.
any more reasons to cremate and stop the stick em in the ground insanity?
 
We can have 'green' burials here, wicker coffins and no chemicals, we freeze people if their funeral has to be postponed, we don't pump em full of shit.

My Pa died suddenly so it took a couple of weeks to get his funeral together. They put him in deep freeze. I have a thing about having to say goodbye the day my loved ones bodies are disposed of ....He looked like a beautiful marble statue, I kissed his forehead and shit man .the shock ! He was freezing cold ( surprising eh ) lol

I supose it has to do with tradition , coffins are usually closed here so no need for preservatives.
 
The time will come when the land will be needed for the living...embalming and "traditional" burial is selfish, not done for the dead but for the living.
 
Queen Titania said:
We can have 'green' burials here, wicker coffins and no chemicals, we freeze people if their funeral has to be postponed, we don't pump em full of shit.

My Pa died suddenly so it took a couple of weeks to get his funeral together. They put him in deep freeze. I have a thing about having to say goodbye the day my loved ones bodies are disposed of ....He looked like a beautiful marble statue, I kissed his forehead and shit man .the shock ! He was freezing cold ( surprising eh ) lol

I supose it has to do with tradition , coffins are usually closed here so no need for preservatives.
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when my mother passed, she requested to be cremated and her ashes scattered from her favorite mtn. top...i took her ashes to her chosen spot,,said my goodbyes, opened the plastic bag of ashes, and let the wind take them,,,,right into my face, mouth, nose and eyes...when i got back to the car my relatives were waiting in, i looked like i just came through a blizzard....next time, i will pay attention to which way the wind blows...
 
Lol same here, it always happens whether there is wind or no :) We are cannibals !

My Ma said just throw me on the bonfire ..and so we did :) I was going to have bag pipes but the family talked me out of it ...I'm sorry I didn't now ....no matter, it would probably have given her siblings heart attacks :)
 
not to mention they have those nifty little "ash urns" that hold about 4 grams of ash and attach to your keychain so you can have a part of your loved one with you when you go to mcdonalds....
 
Hmmm, you should have been born a czarina, or empress.

Seems like final disposal should be a personal choice to me.

I never cease to be amazed at how strongly some feel others should behave.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how some people think polluting and destroying the ecosystem and giving people cancer is "a RIGHT".

Here is a good option: http://www.naturalburial.org/

All Natural burial is far better than EITHER conventional burial with all the fixin's or cremation and here is why:

What’s the ecological cost of contemporary burial?

Each year in the U.S.’s 22,500 cemeteries we bury roughly:

827,060 gallons of embalming fluid

90,272 tons of steel (caskets)

2,700 tons of copper and bronze (caskets)

1,636,000 tons of reinforced concrete (vaults)

14,000 tons of steel (vaults)

30-plus million board feet of hardwoods (much tropical; caskets)

Emissions and pesticide use:

Though we haven’t found good figures for emissions (from lawn mowing, trimming, etc.) or synthetic pesticide and fertilizer use, it’s got to be mega-tons each year. (Depending on the type of mower used, cutting grass for one hour emits as much pollution as driving a car from 100 to 650 miles.)

The average cemetery buries 1,000 gallons of embalming fluid, 97.5 tons of steel, 2,028 tons of concrete, and 56,250 board feet of high quality wood in just one acre of green.

The ecological cost of cremation:

Each cremation releases between .8 and 5.9 grams of mercury as bodies are burned. This amounts to somewhere between 1,000 and 7,800 pounds of mercury each year. Seventy-five percent goes into the air and the rest settles into the ground and water.

Cremation removes the body from the cycle of nature, keeping it from nourishing new life. We prefer earth burial.

You could drive about 4,800 miles on the energy equivalent of the energy used to cremate someone—and to the moon and back 83 times on the energy from all cremations in one year in the U.S.

Cremations of Tompkins County residents during the past year released between 1.2 and 6.8 pounds of mercury into the atmosphere. This estimate is based on a 20% statewide cremation rate—though the county’s rate is probably higher.

Your body is a natural resource, rich with life-sustaining nutrients. Your choice for natural burial is a choice for natural renewal and growth—a way to give back to the earth that sustains us all."
 
Choice is the issue here.

I am all for cremation for those that want it, but the tone of this thread is that cremation should be MANDATORY.

It's the snotty, holier than thou attitude of those that want to force their personal beliefs and behaviors on others that pisses me off.

If the cap fits, wear it.
 
Choice is the issue here.

I am all for cremation for those that want it, but the tone of this thread is that cremation should be MANDATORY.

It's the snotty, holier than thou attitude of those that want to force their personal beliefs and behaviors on others that pisses me off.

If the cap fits, wear it.
 
I will be cremated and my ashes loaded into shot-gun shells and I'll be spread over my hunting lands......

that will be a Blast.........................

:boom:
 
Quote: "You could drive about 4,800 miles on the energy equivalent of the energy used to cremate someone—and to the moon and back 83 times on the energy from all cremations in one year in the U.S. "

Yes, indeed, right wingers LOVE to consume and waste vast quantities of energy. Unconscious or just pain arrogant and refuse to even try to see how their behavior contributes to everything from HIGH fuel prices to pollution, cancers, destruction of the eco-system. Amazing.

It is abundantly clear that ignorance and obliviousness is rated as an attribute and something to admire and even aspire to by the GOP / Right Wingers.....
 
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