Debate a racist thread.

[resident_evil]

It will be a one sided debate since he(she) won't answer unless you post to their blog I'd imagine.

The racist gets the statistics right but not the root of the problem (and it isn't racism or poverty). CLUE: Pay special attention to the fact the Hispanics are lumped into the white crime column.

Tennessee: The Color of Crime

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2011/06/22/tennessee-the-color-of-crime/

 

[resident_evil]

You either start answering the racists or they are going to be proven right all along.

 

[resident_evil]

But Eric Holder said we are too chicken to talk about race. Was he right?

 

[EatTheRich]

http://www.timwise.org/2004/11/race-crime-and-sloppy-social-science/

 

[resident_evil]

http://www.timwise.org/2004/11/race-crime-and-sloppy-social-science/

This thread is from 2014. What were you digging for?

 

[EatTheRich]

Posts extolling the virtues of racism ... didn't have to go back to 2014 for it but this was more explicit than others.

 

[resident_evil]

Posts extolling the virtues of racism ... didn't have to go back to 2014 for it but this was more explicit than others.

I don't think you can read. I linked to a racist who uses crime stats to make a racist claim. I then invite a debate in which I stated that unless the racist is answered he will win the debate on his terms. Nobody cared to debate the points made proving that what Eric Holder said about talking about race in America.

 

[EatTheRich]

I don't think you can read. I linked to a racist who uses crime stats to make a racist claim. I then invite a debate in which I stated that unless the racist is answered he will win the debate on his terms. Nobody cared to debate the points made proving that what Eric Holder said about talking about race in America.

To put it another way ... you arbitrarily asserted that unless we considered racist bullshit very, very seriously, it meant that you racists were “right all along.”

 

[resident_evil]

To put it another way ... you arbitrarily asserted that unless we considered racist bullshit very, very seriously, it meant that you racists were “right all along.”

You and Holder whine about America's cowardice to talk about race. You're both a joke.

 

[EatTheRich]

You and Holder whine about America's cowardice to talk about race. You're both a joke.

A discussion about race isn’t some jackass scapegoating Blacks for crime, and ignoring the evidence (posted in this thread) refuting his racist narrative.

 

[resident_evil]

A discussion about race isn’t some jackass scapegoating Blacks for crime, and ignoring the evidence (posted in this thread) refuting his racist narrative.

You have one post with a link. In the link the author's assertions are debunked with one simple fact. 13% of the population is black and yet 50% of the homicides are committed by blacks. Your link says that the reason is poverty but that is not true. There are more poor whites than there are poor blacks and so the numbers would be proportionate if the poverty excuse was valid.

The narrative isn't racist. The narrative is an indictment of a culture. Cultures can change, race can't. Confront the culture and demand change. The confrontation of the culture is what you and Holder can't stand because you're afraid it is race.

 

[EatTheRich]

You have one post with a link. In the link the author's assertions are debunked with one simple fact. 13% of the population is black and yet 50% of the homicides are committed by blacks. Your link says that the reason is poverty but that is not true. There are more poor whites than there are poor blacks and so the numbers would be proportionate if the poverty excuse was valid.

The narrative isn't racist. The narrative is an indictment of a culture. Cultures can change, race can't. Confront the culture and demand change. The confrontation of the culture is what you and Holder can't stand because you're afraid it is race.

You didn’t engage with the argument in the link at all. If there are about the same number of poor whites as poor Blacks we would expect them to commit roughly the same number (1:1 ratio) of homicides, if poverty were the only way racism affected Black people, but it is not.

 

[EatTheRich]

You have one post with a link. In the link the author's assertions are debunked with one simple fact. 13% of the population is black and yet 50% of the homicides are committed by blacks. Your link says that the reason is poverty but that is not true. There are more poor whites than there are poor blacks and so the numbers would be proportionate if the poverty excuse was valid.

The narrative isn't racist. The narrative is an indictment of a culture. Cultures can change, race can't. Confront the culture and demand change. The confrontation of the culture is what you and Holder can't stand because you're afraid it is race.

I understand very well that the culture is the problem, but you have your eye on the wrong culture. It is the material culture of our racist, capitalist country that is at fault. There’s a reason why Cuba went from having high rates of criminality (especially among Blacks) to having very low rates, and it has everything to do with the revolution that fixed its culture.

 

[Sunset Rose]

http://www.timwise.org/2004/11/race-crime-and-sloppy-social-science/

Thank you for sharing this article by Tim Wise. I agree with his viewpoint 100%.

 

[resident_evil]

I understand very well that the culture is the problem, but you have your eye on the wrong culture. It is the material culture of our racist, capitalist country that is at fault. There’s a reason why Cuba went from having high rates of criminality (especially among Blacks) to having very low rates, and it has everything to do with the revolution that fixed its culture.

Yeah, their new culture of starvation that inhibits the energy level to do violence even to overthrow the government let alone covet what belongs to others who also have nothing.

 

[Sunset Rose]

Does our criminal justice system treat poor Whites and poor Blacks equally?

 

[resident_evil]

You didn’t engage with the argument in the link at all.

So, I'm supposed to read your link and make your points and argue them? ha ha

If there are about the same number of poor whites as poor Blacks we would expect them to commit roughly the same number (1:1 ratio) of homicides, if poverty were the only way racism affected Black people, but it is not.

Bullshit.

 

[Sunset Rose]

I am currently reading a book entitled, "The New Jim Crow", by Michelle Alexander. This author did extensive research on the treatment of Black people in the American criminal justice system.
This is an excellent book. I recommend it to anyone who is interested in how our criminal justice system really works.

 

[EatTheRich]

So, I'm supposed to read your link and make your points and argue them? ha ha

Bullshit.

That’s exactly what you expected all of us to do with your top post. Otherwise you claimed the racists won by default. But maybe racists get some kindness of special consideration that anti-racists don’t get.

 

[EatTheRich]

Does our criminal justice system treat poor Whites and poor Blacks equally?

No. It doesn’t treat either of us well, but I’d rather be a poor white person in legal trouble than a poor black person.