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Deja vu, all over again......

TomFitz

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The maneuvering over the fiscal cliff is a painful reminder of the fall of 2008.

And the GOP (particularly the House) is doing exactly what it did then once more.

In 2008, the consequences of thirty years of rampant deregulation, look the other way enforcement, fical policies designed to abet speculation over investment, and borrow and spend politics came home to roost, delivering the US and the world into the worst financial panic since 1929.

It was evident at that moment that the only way to avert a full blown Depression was a massive government infustion to prop up the banks, so that the center of the battered economy would hold.

What did the architects of the disaster do? They froze like deer in the headlights.

Thier candidate, John McCain, "suspended" his campaign to rush to Washington to deal with the crisis, only to sit and watch as the Democratic candidate, his team and the Democratic leadership took Bush's TARP program and fashioned it into a barely acceptable piece of legislation.

This was followed by the Republican House digging in its heels and refusing to pass the program that thier own President had proposed. After years of borrow and spend, they suddenly (and belatedly) discovered "fiscal responsibility". And their program, such as it was, sounded a lot like Herbert Hoover's did in 1930.

What followed over the next two years was a repeated pattern of brinksmanship and hostage taking. The GOP held any effort at relief in the economy hostage for months while they insisted it be cut and watered down (and then condemmed its lack of instant results mainly because it was too small and watered down with unproductive tax cuts). The GOP then held the nation's unemployed hostage in order to preserve their precious tax cut for the top 1% in the fall of 2010. Emboldened by that maneuver, they decided to hold the full faith and credit of the United State hostage in order to push their radical and unpopular agenda (one that they never even thought of proposing when they were actually in power). This resulted in a debt downgrade and affected the pocketbooks of every American who had any retirement savings left. The punt from that manufactured crisis, set up this one.

Now that the GOP is confronted with yet another crisis of its own making, it's reacting the same way.

It bagan with intransigent demands, in an atmosphere where it had little leverage to negotiate. and descended from there. Sure, the President raised the ante on them. They had just had their agenda soundly repudiated in the last election. The public is not on the GOP's side.

And now the GOP is right back where it was in the FAll of 2008. They are the deer in the headlights.

John Boehner walked off the stage in one of the most stunning failures of leadership in the history of Congress.

And the Republicans APPLAUDED!!!! (politically, one could say that it was better than watching him shed phoney tears on the floor as his GOP colleagues voted against him, as they did in 2008).

So, once again, the White House and the Democratic leadership are moving the country out of a crisis manufactured by the Republicans. They have to do it because the GOP isn't willing to take responsiblity for what it has wrought. The GOP wrought the fiscal policy that pushed the economy off the cliff in 2008, and then walked away and left the Democrats with the mess. That way they could run home and tell their voters that the solution wasn't their fault.

Its deja vu, all over again.
 
I was one of the hostages when the unemployment checks stopped coming for several weeks back then. I was one of the lucky ones who didn't have kids living at home or ended up in the street because of it.

The most violent fantasy I have is a desire to punch Mitch McConnell in the face. He'd probably come out better looking, though.
 
The maneuvering over the fiscal cliff is a painful reminder of the fall of 2008.

And the GOP (particularly the House) is doing exactly what it did then once more.

In 2008, the consequences of thirty years of rampant deregulation, look the other way enforcement, fical policies designed to abet speculation over investment, and borrow and spend politics came home to roost, delivering the US and the world into the worst financial panic since 1929.

It was evident at that moment that the only way to avert a full blown Depression was a massive government infustion to prop up the banks, so that the center of the battered economy would hold.

What did the architects of the disaster do? They froze like deer in the headlights.

Thier candidate, John McCain, "suspended" his campaign to rush to Washington to deal with the crisis, only to sit and watch as the Democratic candidate, his team and the Democratic leadership took Bush's TARP program and fashioned it into a barely acceptable piece of legislation.

This was followed by the Republican House digging in its heels and refusing to pass the program that thier own President had proposed. After years of borrow and spend, they suddenly (and belatedly) discovered "fiscal responsibility". And their program, such as it was, sounded a lot like Herbert Hoover's did in 1930.

What followed over the next two years was a repeated pattern of brinksmanship and hostage taking. The GOP held any effort at relief in the economy hostage for months while they insisted it be cut and watered down (and then condemmed its lack of instant results mainly because it was too small and watered down with unproductive tax cuts). The GOP then held the nation's unemployed hostage in order to preserve their precious tax cut for the top 1% in the fall of 2010. Emboldened by that maneuver, they decided to hold the full faith and credit of the United State hostage in order to push their radical and unpopular agenda (one that they never even thought of proposing when they were actually in power). This resulted in a debt downgrade and affected the pocketbooks of every American who had any retirement savings left. The punt from that manufactured crisis, set up this one.

Now that the GOP is confronted with yet another crisis of its own making, it's reacting the same way.

It bagan with intransigent demands, in an atmosphere where it had little leverage to negotiate. and descended from there. Sure, the President raised the ante on them. They had just had their agenda soundly repudiated in the last election. The public is not on the GOP's side.

And now the GOP is right back where it was in the FAll of 2008. They are the deer in the headlights.

John Boehner walked off the stage in one of the most stunning failures of leadership in the history of Congress.

And the Republicans APPLAUDED!!!! (politically, one could say that it was better than watching him shed phoney tears on the floor as his GOP colleagues voted against him, as they did in 2008).

So, once again, the White House and the Democratic leadership are moving the country out of a crisis manufactured by the Republicans. They have to do it because the GOP isn't willing to take responsiblity for what it has wrought. The GOP wrought the fiscal policy that pushed the economy off the cliff in 2008, and then walked away and left the Democrats with the mess. That way they could run home and tell their voters that the solution wasn't their fault.

Its deja vu, all over again.






It's funny how that, despite having a majority in the Senate and running the Executive Branch, Democrats have zero authority (and hence zero responsibility) for anything, ever.
 
I was one of the hostages when the unemployment checks stopped coming for several weeks back then. I was one of the lucky ones who didn't have kids living at home or ended up in the street because of it.

The most violent fantasy I have is a desire to punch Mitch McConnell in the face. He'd probably come out better looking, though.

Just be sure and hit him in the chin,if you can find it. Might stretch that turtle neck a little. McConnell is one of the most repulsive men I have ever looked at!And, his actions are worse!
 
It's funny how that, despite having a majority in the Senate and running the Executive Branch, Democrats have zero authority (and hence zero responsibility) for anything, ever.

Zam,you know the Republicans have used the filibuster to kill everything.
 
Let me know, I'll kick him after you're done. And then let's go find the bar Boehner's hiding in and the rock Cantor is hiding under.
 
It's funny how that, despite having a majority in the Senate and running the Executive Branch, Democrats have zero authority (and hence zero responsibility) for anything, ever.

Perhaps you can tell us what you're talking about?

The GOP has the votes to hold up anything in the Senate by insisting on a super majority. Which is why they're all alarmed about plans to change the filibuster rule so that the American people will get to see their obstruction on TV.

Since the Adminstration IS the one taking all the responsiblity here (owing to the total absence of Republcians willing to step up) you don't have a leg to stand on with that assertion.
 
If Boehner has such great authority, why is he afraid to allow a vote? You know this one.
 
Not acknowledging who won the election and what he ran on is intellectually dishonest.

Pugs hate democracy. They see the people as the enemy.
 
It takes two to compromise. Saying it's all the fault of one while the other is blameless is intellectually dishonest.

And what' more dishonest is trying to pretend that this crisis is something inevitable, and not one manufactured as the result of the previously failed brinksmanship of the GOP.

Besides, it's not as if the GOP is actually doing much compromising.
 
Damn fine post. PJCons have been "deer in the headlights" for at least the past 4 months too just like their elected Reps and Senators in Congress.
 
Thank!

That is the way I see it.

I was once a Republican. But that was back in the day when the GOP leadership consisted of people like Gerald Ford, Nelson Rockefeller, Everett Dirksen, Bob Dole etc.
None of these men would even have dreamed of pulling some of the stunts that are now routine in the GOP of today.

They didn't engage in the hucksterism and partisanship that is common today either.

They made their cases, and them made the deals that kept government running and responsibly managed (back in the pre Reagan days when a budget defecit was $200 billion, and the national debt was 1/12 of what it is today).

There has been no sign of responsible government from the GOP since the days when Newt Gingrich became speaker. Since then, it has been an endless cycle of partisanship, interrupted by exercises in GOP brinksmanship. The 1995 Gingrich shutdowns, the impeachment, and the constant hostage taking of the last two congresses are all of a piece.

The GOP doesn't seem to be interested in actual government. Their appeal seems to be to low information voters who can be sold simplistic ideology, and which enables all sorts of graft and influence peddling (which has been rampant in the GOP over the last 15 years). It's the poltiics of the Guilded Age.

Wnen they do talk vision, the GOP vision is a Horatio Alger fairy tale wrapped in Guilded Age robber baron reality, leavened with some Hardingesque "Ohio Gang" familarity.

A year or so ago, the wingnut media was even trying to portray Calvin Cooldidge as a great president.
 
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