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Dem Senator: 'We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying.

worldlymrb

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Doesn't that make Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) a co-conspirator to commit fraud? I thought only the rich and evil corporations engaged in this kind of activity against the people?

However... It just wasn't the dem senator of New York who knew all along Obama was lying, Ted Cruz, and many GOPers warned us about the fraud being forced upon the American People>

Criminal indictment should immediately be brought upon Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), as well a congressional subpena.

Unless of course AmericAA- enjoys being lied too.


Dem Senator: “We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying”
On Sunday, appearing on ABC’s This Week with fill-in host Martha Raddatz, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) admitted that Democrats knew full well that Americans would be booted from their health insurance plans as an effect of Obamacare implementation.

When asked whether Democrats were misled by President Obama about whether Americans would be able to keep their plans in the individual insurance market, Gillibrand answered: “He should’ve just been specific.

No, we all [...]

November 18th, 2013
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We'll see if Republicans are smart enough to capitalize on this. I have my doubts.

If they were smart, they'd dust off some more Obamacare promises, like the average family saving $2,500 per year. That was also a blatant lie, and another one that hits Americans in the pocketbook. And with this happening in a time when Obamunism has already decreased wages, lowered the job participation rate and turned the economy into a part-time one, the time is right for a takedown. Even the media is ready to do it.
 
i gave this a like.

at least she's not lying THIS time, and claiming she had no idea obamacare would result in mass policy cancellations and price hikes.

will voters in NY care that she lies to them, however? i doubt it.
 
worldlymrb said:
Doesn't that make Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) a co-conspirator to commit fraud? I thought only the rich and evil corporations engaged in this kind of activity against the people?

However... It just wasn't the dem senator of New York who knew all along Obama was lying, Ted Cruz, and many GOPers warned us about the fraud being forced upon the American People>

Criminal indictment should immediately be brought upon Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), as well a congressional subpena.

Unless of course AmericAA- enjoys being lied too.
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Why did you lie to the group? You quoted her as saying "we all knew Obama was lying," but the piece doesn't support the idea she said that. Will you apologize to the group for passing along Breitbart's lie? And have you learned your lesson about using such a dishonest source?
 
as seen on tv said:
i gave this a like.

at least she's not lying THIS time, and claiming she had no idea obamacare would result in mass policy cancellations and price hikes.

will voters in NY care that she lies to them, however? i doubt it.
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You gave it a like? Out of curiosity, why do you like it when worldlymrb lies to the group? He provided a blatantly false quotation.
 
Arkady said:
Why did you lie to the group? You quoted her as saying "we all knew Obama was lying," but the piece doesn't support the idea she said that. Will you apologize to the group for passing along Breitbart's lie? And have you learned your lesson about using such a dishonest source?
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TRANSCRIPT:
"He should’ve just been specific. No, we all knew. The whole point of the plan is to cover things people need, like preventive care, birth control, pregnancy. How many women, the minute they get pregnant, might risk their coverage. How many women paid more because of their gender, because they might get pregnant. Those are the reforms."

SO TELL ME ARKADY.. What was it exactly "they all knew"?
 
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Arkady said:
Why did you lie to the group? You quoted her as saying "we all knew Obama was lying," but the piece doesn't support the idea she said that. Will you apologize to the group for passing along Breitbart's lie? And have you learned your lesson about using such a dishonest source?
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No question about it, he should have skipped the quotation marks. It is one thing to characterize what she said in that way, and another to quote it as her having said that specifically.
 
UnleashedInTheEast said:
No question about it, he should have skipped the quotation marks. It is one thing to characterize what she said in that way, and another to quote it as her having said that specifically.
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In other words, it should have been posted as..

Dem Senator: 'We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying.

instead of...

Dem Senator: “We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying”

Ok.. I apologize. Unlike Obama, I will make it right.
 
worldlymrb said:
In other words, it should have been posted as..

Dem Senator: 'We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying.

instead of...

Dem Senator: “We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying”

Ok.. I apologize. Unlike Obama, I will make it right.
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Well-done. And that should be a lesson to Obama on how easy it is to simply correct an error. Of course, his is just a tad more serious than yours was. :)
 
UnleashedInTheEast said:
We'll see if Republicans are smart enough to capitalize on this. I have my doubts.

If they were smart, they'd dust off some more Obamacare promises, like the average family saving $2,500 per year. That was also a blatant lie, and another one that hits Americans in the pocketbook. And with this happening in a time when Obamunism has already decreased wages, lowered the job participation rate and turned the economy into a part-time one, the time is right for a takedown. Even the media is ready to do it.
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Wait until the 1st of the year when the employer mandate takes affect. Anywhere from 5,000 to 100,000 people are going to have their employer group plans dropped.

And then in March the individual mandate goes into affect. So there's many more disasters all during 2014 headed for Obama and the Democrats.
 
worldlymrb said:

TRANSCRIPT:
"He should’ve just been specific. No, we all knew. The whole point of the plan is to cover things people need, like preventive care, birth control, pregnancy. How many women, the minute they get pregnant, might risk their coverage. How many women paid more because of their gender, because they might get pregnant. Those are the reforms."

SO TELL ME ARKADY.. What was it exactly "they all knew"?
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Worldlymrb, you screwed up. You relied on a website that specializes in tricking gullible conservatives and assorted morons into spreading lies. They provided you a false quotation and, as they hoped, you spread that infection. Learn your lesson. Breitbart is an outlet for partisan disinformation. If you keep reading it with your mindset, you're going to keep being taken in by them. Find a more reputable source.
 
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worldlymrb said:
In other words, it should have been posted as..

Dem Senator: 'We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying.

instead of...

Dem Senator: “We All Knew’ Obama Was Lying”

Ok.. I apologize. Unlike Obama, I will make it right.
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The reworded version changes it from a blatant, indefensible lie, to an obvious, willfullly misleading paraphrase. At no point in the materials you shared did she imply she thought Obama was lying. She thought he should have been more specific. What they all knew is what the point of the plan was. It's only a lie if you think Obama was trying to trick people about the point of the plan. The Senator pretty clearly doesn't think he was, but Breitbart wants to trick people into believing she does think that.
 
Arkady said:
The reworded version changes it from a blatant, indefensible lie, to an obvious, willfullly misleading paraphrase. At no point in the materials you shared did she imply she thought Obama was lying. She thought he should have been more specific. What they all knew is what the point of the plan was. It's only a lie if you think Obama was trying to trick people about the point of the plan. The Senator pretty clearly doesn't think he was, but Breitbart wants to trick people into believing she does think that.
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More "sloppy rhetoric"?
 
Arkady said:
Worldlymrb, you screwed up. You relied on a website that specializes in tricking gullible conservatives and assorted morons into spreading lies. They provided you a false quotation and, as they hoped, you spread that infection. Learn your lesson. Breitbart is an outlet for partisan disinformation. If you keep reading it with your mindset, you're going to keep being taken in by them. Find a more reputable source.
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A reputable source like whom? To varying degrees, all news sources have their various biases.
 
Arkady said:
The reworded version changes it from a blatant, indefensible lie, to an obvious, willfullly misleading paraphrase. At no point in the materials you shared did she imply she thought Obama was lying. She thought he should have been more specific. What they all knew is what the point of the plan was. It's only a lie if you think Obama was trying to trick people about the point of the plan. The Senator pretty clearly doesn't think he was, but Breitbart wants to trick people into believing she does think that.
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Of course Obama was trying to trick people. How else can achieve his goal of single payer health care without people losing their policies and being forced to get them from him?
 
Sgt Staples said:
Wait until the 1st of the year when the employer mandate takes affect. Anywhere from 5,000 to 100,000 people are going to have their employer group plans dropped.

And then in March the individual mandate goes into affect. So there's many more disasters all during 2014 headed for Obama and the Democrats.
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I sure hope so. And with peoples' pocketbooks being affected, I am somewhat optimistic. Heya, did you mean to add several more zeroes to your numbers on people being dropped by their employers? I feel like hundreds of thousands will be the low end of what to expect. Just curious...
 
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Arkady said:
At no point in the materials you shared did she imply she thought Obama was lying. She thought he should have been more specific.
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More specific about what?

That keeping your health plan if you like it..period was just sloppy rhetoric?
 
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More specific about what?

That keeping your health plan if you like it..period was just sloppy rhetoric?[/quote]

About what the plan should do. Are you honestly having trouble following her comments?
 
marvin martian said:
More "sloppy rhetoric"?
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No. In this case the rhetoric was clear. It wasn't at all hard to follow the point the Senator was making, but some people want to pretend she was sayin something completely different because.... well, because they're liars who seek to gain partisan advantage by trying to turn various Democrats against each other.
 
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