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Dr Cornel West is running for President

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Dr Cornel West, intellectual, human rights activist and college professor is running for President 2024. He is running as a 3rd party candidate. I know he is a longshot, but I'm planning to vote for him.
One reason I'm voting for him is I think it's time we got away from the 2 party political system we have.
What do you all think of Dr West? And of the 3rd party idea?
 
He seems like a well-meaning guy and I am with him on his liking Christianity and PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals).

I was a supporter of him when he was in the Green Party (as I was too) and he supported Ralph Nader for president (whom I voted for twice). After that, and after 9/11, I became an independent, and West went loony left supporting Al Sharpton, and supporting weird causes.

He did level out though and supported John Kerry and Obama in 2008 (both of whom I voted for too).

Now, he's way too far left for me, as I am now a registered Republican, and I voted for Donald Trump 3 times, and will again in November.
 
He seems like a well-meaning guy and I am with him on his liking Christianity and PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals).

I was a supporter of him when he was in the Green Party (as I was too) and he supported Ralph Nader for president (whom I voted for twice). After that, and after 9/11, I became an independent, and West went loony left supporting Al Sharpton, and supporting weird causes.

He did level out though and supported John Kerry and Obama in 2008 (both of whom I voted for too).

Now, he's way too far left for me, as I am now a registered Republican, and I voted for Donald Trump 3 times, and will again in November.

That swamp water must have permeated you brain. Dr West is a very intelligent and principled man. Trump is the opposite in every way.
 
Dr Cornel West, intellectual, human rights activist and college professor is running for President 2024. He is running as a 3rd party candidate. I know he is a longshot, but I'm planning to vote for him.
One reason I'm voting for him is I think it's time we got away from the 2 party political system we have.
What do you all think of Dr West? And of the 3rd party idea?

A bunch of people voting for Nader in Florida instead of Al Gore in Florida foisted GW Bush on us for 8 years and three bloody, multi trillion dollar wars. I like Dr West but enough sane people voting for him instead of Biden could end up putting Trump and god knows who he’d pick for his cabinet in there. I’m sure I’d survive if Trump gets in but I’m pretty sure President Zelenskyy and millions of Ukrainians would be murdered in a Trump administration and the rest would be subjects to Putin for life. I support a free and independent Ukraine.
 
Trump is very intelligent and very patriotically principled. He loves America, unlike Biden who only loves himself.

Like I said, swamp water Bert. Trump cares nothing about America, only enriching himself and his brat kids. He has sold out America and cashed in at every turn.
 
Like I said, swamp water Bert. Trump cares nothing about America, only enriching himself and his brat kids. He has sold out America and cashed in at every turn.
You just described Biden. Trump had billions before becoming president. He didn't need to "cash in"..that's what Biden has been doing.

The latest - Hur testified in a Senate hearing, that Biden got $8 million in a sale of classified documents.
 
Dr Cornel West, intellectual, human rights activist and college professor is running for President 2024. He is running as a 3rd party candidate. I know he is a longshot, but I'm planning to vote for him.
One reason I'm voting for him is I think it's time we got away from the 2 party political system we have.
What do you all think of Dr West? And of the 3rd party idea?
I hate to break it to you, but it's built to be a 2 party system.
How can you have 3 real competitors and still have 1 of them get to 270 electoral votes ? If you want three parties, look first to electing 3rd party members of congress. They're the ones who write the laws and allocate the funds, the president just signs off on what they pass. Voting 3rd party in a presidential election only takes a vote away from the major party candidate you liked most, or in this case, maybe the one you hated the least.

As for Dr West, my only question to him would be, why are you doing this now ?
Donald Trump has said he believes he has total immunity from prosecution for any act he commits as the President of the United States. Why are you not committed to the best available effort to prevent a man, whose lawyers will argue before the Supreme Court, that he could assassinate his political opponents from taking office ?
 
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I think West is an honest man of good will, and I like the idea of a working-class alternative to the ruling parties, but I have serious reservations about his candidacy.

West is an avowed non-Marxist who is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. His candidacy will have the primary effect of undermining independent working-class organizing by channeling the resistance blocs attracted to his campaign back into the DSA (which functions as an adjunct, via the Social Democrats, of the Democratic Party and the right-opportunist wing of the Socialist Party) and the other reactionary power centers around which his campaign functions, including the parties that have endorsed him:

The People's Party, a middle-class "radical" party of left-populists organized to give left cover to Bernie Sanders's capitulation to the Democrats, backed by Bonapartist leader Jesse Ventura and with a record of tolerating sexism in its upper ranks

The Aurora Party, a social-democratic party advocating some basic reformist positions that are implicitly counterposed with the alternative of Marxist revolution

The Green Mountain Peace & Justice Party, a middle-class, multi-tendency centrist party formerly chaired by Sanders and opportunistically hitching its fortunes to both social democratic opportunism and Stalinist centrism

Socialist Alternative, an opportunist revisionist "Trotskyist" party closely identified with the International Socialist Organization, Democratic Socialists of America, and their program of electoral reformism

The Oregon Progressive Party, a radical bourgeois party that formerly endorsed Ralph Nader

United Citizens Party (which only resembles in name the party that fought for Black voting rights), an opportunist social-democratic party that has led people into not only New Alliance (middle-class faux-Marxist radical) Party, Socialist Party, and Democratic Party politics, but that also sought to promote the Perot campaign for its ends

The Unity Party, a self-described "neither left nor right" middle-class party created as a vehicle for the war-hawk campaign of Wesley Clark

Legal Marijuana NOW Party, a middle-class one-issue party

Natural Law Party, a theocratic bourgeois party that also served to amplify the campaign of fascist leader Pat Buchanan

Although he did not get their nomination, West also sought the support of the Green Party, a radical bourgeois reformist party of anti-nuclear hysteria that forged alliances with rightist supporters of Roseanne Barr, Ross Perot, and Buchanan, and supported the opportunist campaigns on the left by Barr, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney.

If West breaks, substantially if not formally, with the capitalist parties supporting him (Unity Party, Natural Law Party, Progressive Party, Legal Marijuana NOW Party) and leans hard into organizing a labor party using the existing social-democratic, Stalinist, centrist, and communist parties as a base ... which means splitting off from the right wing within those parties ... I will consider supporting him. But if he continues to pursue what appears to be his current strategy of pressuring the Democrats from the left so he and the labor aristocracy/bureaucracy supporting him can work out backroom deals with them, I will look for the working-class alternative that is building that labor party.
 
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