five things

[Drumcollie]

...And Saint Atilla raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu...... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

went of the deep end now didnt ya....

 

[Drumcollie]

Just, FYI, I'm cutting down clutter in this forum, for myself, by setting any posters who have never contributed anything of value to "ignore." That includes you. It's a pity. I was very hopeful that we'd have a Muslim in here interested in debating issues from that perspective, but instead we just have a mindless cut-and-paste bot.

What your going to ignore yourself??? That is new and some what Cuomo erotic...nice and edgy...good job arkady.

As far as for posting on Islam...I am all for it...as long as it is not the false radical Islamic ideals. As for as the conversion rate to any religion...the twelve Democrats and 8 republicans are pretty much set...Democrats hate religion, except when worshipping Obama, and the Republicans accept religion except when it preaches hatred toward others and their religion.

 

[Arkady]

Of all the lefty hacks on the board, Arkady, I thought you might be the one who would be willing to confront the realities of Islam, but I see you're going to retreat into the bogus, politically-correct "religion of peace" bullshit we've been fed by the apologist left. Too bad...

Marvin, take an honest look at the thread. There have been repeated attempts to engage this poster in discussion, and they've been met by blind copying and pasting. Quite literally, it's possible the poster doesn't even speak English. It's a waste of time to try to engage in debate with such a person.

 

[sacoooo]

Interesting. So, what is the prescribed punishment for apostasy, in this life, and how would it be carried out?

, With no one to judge someone with murder without proof of the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and his family and him.
And a death sentence for the word called when Muslim scholars to "apostasy", what is apostasy? What is apostasy?
What is the rule of the apostate?
First, apostasy ... Is the disbelief after Islam.
Second: What is apostasy ...
Divided the things that you get the apostasy into four sections:
A - rose in to belief, such as polytheism or deny the status of fixed qualities or proof of the child to God, it is believed that it is an apostate unbeliever.
B - rose in words, gain Allaah or insulting the Prophet peace be upon him.
C - rose deeds, such as dumping the Koran in a dirty place; because to do so disregard the Word of God Almighty, it is non-ratification of the Principality, as well as to an idol or worship of the sun or the moon.
D - apostasy doing it, like leaving all the rites of religion, and stay away from the final work.

Third: What is the rule of the apostate?
If you wear a Muslim, and who fulfills the conditions of apostasy - selected adult of sound mind - missed his blood, and kill Imam - Muslim governor - or his deputy - Kalkadhi - not washed and prayed for should not be buried with Muslims.
The evidence for killing an apostate is because the Prophet peace be upon him: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him," Bukhari (2794). What is meant by religion ie Islam.
And the Prophet peace be upon him: "The blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allah and I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: self-esteem, and previously married adulterer, and his religion outgoing junctions of the group," Bukhari and Muslim 6878 1676
See encyclopedia jurisprudence 22/180
Thus it is clear to you is that the killing of the apostate holds order of God as commanded us to obey the Prophet peace be upon him said: {And obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those of you}, The Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and his family and him to kill the apostate also offer saying: "It is changes his religion, kill him. "
You may need this issue from you to the time of conviction, and to

meditate upon, and perhaps you think the question that if a person follow the right and entered it and converted to this religion only right that Allaah has enjoined, then Allow him to leave easily at any time and utter words of kufr that come out of it , Atone Allah and His Messenger and his religion and his book, then do not occur deterrent punishment to him, how will that impact on him and the other entrants in the religion.
Do not you see that this makes the true religion to be followed like a store or shop where a person enters in and out whenever he wants whenever he wants and maybe encourage others to leave the right.


Then this is not a person did not know the right was not exercised in worship, but people knew, March and led worship, no punishment is greater than it deserves, but such a strong governance have not kept only for the person who has not prepared for his benefit because he knew the right and follow the religion, then left him and abandoned him, what the same worse than the same person.
The bottom line answer is that God, who revealed this religion, which is imposed by the rule of the income of the killing, and then abandoned him, and not this provision of the Muslim ideas, suggestions and reasoning, and as long as it also must follow the rule of God as long as We like Lord -allah.



The limits of God
Application and implementation
Not for discussion

229)These are the limits ordained by Allah, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits ordained by Allah, then such are the Zalimun (wrong-doers, etc.).